dr_octagon
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They managed to mess up laser swords, space battles and robots. Of course they would do the same with wizards and potatoes.
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The Lords of The Rings: Rings of Power Official Teaser Trailer
BigBooper
Member
You just going to keep trying to gatcha people by referencing fourth hand+ information?
Seems like Amazon should just fast track it to the Hobbit ASAP. 1 season of this prequel stuff, get straight to Isildur and the great war versus Sauron, then hit the Hobbit and then the Fellowship.
If this show tanks I wonder how quickly they can move on to the actual books.
If this show tanks I wonder how quickly they can move on to the actual books.
AJUMP23
Member
They cannot do the hobbit.
NecrosaroIII
Ask me about my terrible takes on Star Trek characters
Tolkien did describe characters, but in the material they have access to not there. There are other sources that do describe the characters in detail but they can't draw material from it.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
So you’ve never read any of the middle earth books?
sol_bad
Member
Entire races or just a few characters? I mentioned that LOTRO allows skin colour changes and there no uproar over this. LOTRO dictates skin colour choices based on geographical location. Is there anything in the texts that does the same?
T TaylorSwiftFan I tried reading LOTR and gave up before finishing 100 pages, maybe even 50 pages. Tolkien was way too descriptive about the world.
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NecrosaroIII
Ask me about my terrible takes on Star Trek characters
Sure. In the appendices he goes into all sorts of details. He's most descriptive about Hobbits and what the men of Rohan and Gondor look like. Elves and dwarves he doesn't give too much detail, oddly enough. In terms of physical details, he mostly describes the different hues of Elves hair when identifying different elvish ethnic groups. I don't recall elvish or dwarvish skin tone being described.
With regards to human tones, he mostly either uses "fair" or "swarthy" when describing human tones.
Tams
Member
No.
We shouldn't just ignore this. Those very things are affecting accuracy and cohesion.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Came across this snippet from Peter Jackson, in the YouTube comments:
Tams
Member
LOTRO is an MMO game. Decorating (yes, the skin colour of your character is decoration) is an intrinsic part of the experience.
Films and TV are telling you stories, not trying to make you actually feel part of their worlds.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Not my thoughts. You can rightly guess what Tolkien and his son would have thought of this.
In a letter Tolkien once wrote regarding a screenplay for a LOTR adaptation, he ripped it apart for not being true to his vision. At one point he states the screenplay has the seasons all wrong and the world is set in the Northern Hemisphere and should reflect that setting
"The Lord of the Rings may be a 'fairy-story', but it takes place in the Northern hemisphere of this earth: miles are miles, days are days, ..."
That's just one criticism he had of the changes the screenplay made to his book with something minor regarding the seasons. If you really want to read the whole letter, it's letter 210.
In terms of Christopher, take a look at his comments on Jackson's LOTR adaptation. He absolutely hated it and thought it butchered his father's work.
Based on the above, I think I can correctly say both Tolkien and his son would have hated what Amazon is doing.
SirKicksalot
Member
IIRC Tolkien was less open to adaptations and alterations as he got older and wrote more stuff.
Christopher Tolkien's opinion on the movies is exaggerated by the Internet. In 2001 he did not disapprove of them. In 2012, he said the book was eviscerated to make an action movie for 15-25 year olds, which is correct.
He then added some words about commercialization, which clickbait sites merge with the action movies quote. However, this was in the context of the estate clashing with Saul Zaentz over mishandling of the rights.
Christopher Tolkien's opinion on the movies is exaggerated by the Internet. In 2001 he did not disapprove of them. In 2012, he said the book was eviscerated to make an action movie for 15-25 year olds, which is correct.
He then added some words about commercialization, which clickbait sites merge with the action movies quote. However, this was in the context of the estate clashing with Saul Zaentz over mishandling of the rights.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
Actually he did describe the Noldor as all being fair with dark hair and grey eyes, except for the house of Finarfin. The Vanyar were all blonde so safe to assume they were fair skin. Not a lot of description of the Teleri other than some of them have silver hair.
The only race that I know were described as having dark skin are humans like the Haradrim.
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That's how descriptions via exception work. If everyone is NOT described via skin color but one specific person IS described as dark skinned, then it is fair to assume the rest are light skinned. Just like the one really tall guy in a group, the really old guy, the only person with a limp, etc. It is only when there is a wide variety of options that things are well detailed, like hair or eye color amongst caucasians. I doubt writers in asia spend a lot of time describing long straight dark hair and dark brown eyes because that is the default appearance.
ForAcademicPurposes
Gold Member
Amazon unlisted this "superfans" review, I wonder why...
It's a generation of people who can't relate to anything unless it exactly like them and that's why everything sucks now and everyone can't take anything because they don't have any ability to realize that the world doesn't revolve around them. It's fucking lord of the rings. It's not about you. Just be the best person that you can be and don't force everyone to suck your ass.
That's just a talking point that is kinda hard to refute without sounding a bit like an ass. When paired with "that's your white privilege speaking" if you flip the comparison around (white person liking black media for example) it basically kills any debate or discussion.
lifa-cobex
Member
I don't think anyone would care if there were minority leading characters in this story. It's ridiculous to think there wouldn't be nowadays. It's just a glaring red flag that the creators of the series believe they can justify the entire existence of the series on that merit alone. They're inclusive, therefore their "heart is in the right place". They're taking advantage of our collective desire to help the weak and excluded by prompting us to have empathy for a cynic corporate cash grab. They're moral brood parasites.
KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
Every Episode Of Amazon’s ‘Lord Of The Rings’ Show Reportedly Costs More Than $50 Million
It was all of yesterday when we were marveling at Netflix spending $30 million per episode for Stranger Things season four. “Hold my mead,” says Lord of the Rings.Variety confirmed that the first season of Prime Video’s upcoming The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power will be eight episodes long with a budget of $465 million.
That’s $58 million PER EPISODE. Two episodes of the Lord of the Rings show will cost more than the entire eight-episode final season of Game of Thrones.
Amazon’s ’Lord Of The Rings’ Show Costs More Than $50 Million/Episode
The One Ring costs a lot of money for Amazon.
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haxan7
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Every Episode Of Amazon’s ‘Lord Of The Rings’ Show Reportedly Costs More Than $50 Million
It was all of yesterday when we were marveling at Netflix spending $30 million per episode for Stranger Things season four. “Hold my mead,” says Lord of the Rings.
Variety confirmed that the first season of Prime Video’s upcoming The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power will be eight episodes long with a budget of $465 million.
That’s $58 million PER EPISODE. Two episodes of the Lord of the Rings show will cost more than the entire eight-episode final season of Game of Thrones.
Amazon’s ’Lord Of The Rings’ Show Costs More Than $50 Million/Episode
The One Ring costs a lot of money for Amazon.
Pilgrimzero
Member
having recently re-read the lotr books, im going to commit heresy and say: the movies are better.
Why?
Because a lot of stuff is glossed over. think like where Aragorn gets the undead army. in the movie its a killer sceene. in the book its "Aragorn went into the mountain and the dead exited with him." thats it. a lot of the battles are the same way. "and they fought and it was bloody and hard fighting and the heros won".
Now, im not saying the books arent good. i love them. i just find the movies more entertaining.
Why?
Because a lot of stuff is glossed over. think like where Aragorn gets the undead army. in the movie its a killer sceene. in the book its "Aragorn went into the mountain and the dead exited with him." thats it. a lot of the battles are the same way. "and they fought and it was bloody and hard fighting and the heros won".
Now, im not saying the books arent good. i love them. i just find the movies more entertaining.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Laundering of the Blings.Every Episode Of Amazon’s ‘Lord Of The Rings’ Show Reportedly Costs More Than $50 Million
It was all of yesterday when we were marveling at Netflix spending $30 million per episode for Stranger Things season four. “Hold my mead,” says Lord of the Rings.
Variety confirmed that the first season of Prime Video’s upcoming The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power will be eight episodes long with a budget of $465 million.
That’s $58 million PER EPISODE. Two episodes of the Lord of the Rings show will cost more than the entire eight-episode final season of Game of Thrones.
Amazon’s ’Lord Of The Rings’ Show Costs More Than $50 Million/Episode
The One Ring costs a lot of money for Amazon.
Halo is Back
Member
All that money and watch it turn to shit anyways. At least that's my betEvery Episode Of Amazon’s ‘Lord Of The Rings’ Show Reportedly Costs More Than $50 Million
It was all of yesterday when we were marveling at Netflix spending $30 million per episode for Stranger Things season four. “Hold my mead,” says Lord of the Rings.
Variety confirmed that the first season of Prime Video’s upcoming The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power will be eight episodes long with a budget of $465 million.
That’s $58 million PER EPISODE. Two episodes of the Lord of the Rings show will cost more than the entire eight-episode final season of Game of Thrones.
Amazon’s ’Lord Of The Rings’ Show Costs More Than $50 Million/Episode
The One Ring costs a lot of money for Amazon.
FunkMiller
Member
Every Episode Of Amazon’s ‘Lord Of The Rings’ Show Reportedly Costs More Than $50 Million
It was all of yesterday when we were marveling at Netflix spending $30 million per episode for Stranger Things season four. “Hold my mead,” says Lord of the Rings.
Variety confirmed that the first season of Prime Video’s upcoming The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power will be eight episodes long with a budget of $465 million.
That’s $58 million PER EPISODE. Two episodes of the Lord of the Rings show will cost more than the entire eight-episode final season of Game of Thrones.
Amazon’s ’Lord Of The Rings’ Show Costs More Than $50 Million/Episode
The One Ring costs a lot of money for Amazon.
That's a fucking insane amount of money, and entirely unnecessary.
The whole LotR trilogy cost a bit under 500 million dollars, adjusted for inflation. This is costing almost the same, for one fucking season of TV, that's an hour shorter overall.
Razvedka
Banned
Every Episode Of Amazon’s ‘Lord Of The Rings’ Show Reportedly Costs More Than $50 Million
It was all of yesterday when we were marveling at Netflix spending $30 million per episode for Stranger Things season four. “Hold my mead,” says Lord of the Rings.
Variety confirmed that the first season of Prime Video’s upcoming The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power will be eight episodes long with a budget of $465 million.
That’s $58 million PER EPISODE. Two episodes of the Lord of the Rings show will cost more than the entire eight-episode final season of Game of Thrones.
Amazon’s ’Lord Of The Rings’ Show Costs More Than $50 Million/Episode
The One Ring costs a lot of money for Amazon.
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Ulysses 31
Member
Amazon going for the feels with this latest Rings of Power promo
Kev Kev
Member
i cant believe we are a couple months away from a lotr series set in the second age. smh i genuinely thought this would never happen. reading the silmarillion (nasmith illustrated version) and unfinished tales remains some of my favorite experiences in a fantasy setting. there are so many good stories in there. and they are going with one of the best parts in all of tolkien lore. yessssssss!
what do the kids say....? oh right LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO
what do the kids say....? oh right LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO
strange headache
Banned
AJUMP23
Member
Try not to get your hopes too high. But I too am looking forward to it.i cant believe we are a couple months away from a lotr series set in the second age. smh i genuinely thought this would never happen. reading the silmarillion (nasmith illustrated version) and unfinished tales remains some of my favorite experiences in a fantasy setting. there are so many good stories in there. and they are going with one of the best parts in all of tolkien lore. yessssssss!
what do the kids say....? oh right LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO
octiny
Banned
ManaByte
Member
Amazon promoting a LOTR series with sex and nudity with a commercial featuring kids.
sol_bad
Member
You never watched Lethal Weapon 2 as a kid? It's all goooood. lol
Kev Kev
Member
according to a vanity fair interview back in february, there wont be any sex or nudity. co-showrunner patrick mckay said the show will be "for everyone, for kids who are 11, 12 and 13"
Amazon’s ‘Lord of the Rings’ Series Rises: Inside ‘The Rings of Power’
One show to rule them all—the first look at a billion-dollar saga set thousands of years before J.R.R. Tolkien’s legendary trilogy.
"So will there be Westerosi levels of violence and sex in Amazon’s Middle-earth? In short, no. McKay says the goal was “to make a show for everyone, for kids who are 11, 12, and 13, even though sometimes they might have to pull the blanket up over their eyes if it’s a little too scary. We talked about the tone in Tolkien’s books. This is material that is sometimes scary—and sometimes very intense, sometimes quite political, sometimes quite sophisticated—but it’s also heartwarming and life-affirming and optimistic. It’s about friendship and it’s about brotherhood and underdogs overcoming great darkness.”"
Hawking Radiation
Member
Just a 2 hour flight to the south island and this is the kind of stuff you see around every corner. It truly is a stunningly beautiful country
Planning another trip down south now that its snowing. Haven't been to the ski fields yet.
BTW I shot this on my Sony camera with 14mm wide angle Sigma prime lens
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Trogdor1123
Member
Wtf is that?
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
Are you being sarcastic here? I assume you are since Amazon does not have access to the stories in the Silmarillion.i cant believe we are a couple months away from a lotr series set in the second age. smh i genuinely thought this would never happen. reading the silmarillion (nasmith illustrated version) and unfinished tales remains some of my favorite experiences in a fantasy setting. there are so many good stories in there. and they are going with one of the best parts in all of tolkien lore. yessssssss!
what do the kids say....? oh right LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO
Kev Kev
Member
it’s set in the second age so yeah I’m pretty stoked
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
Who the hell are they marketing this to?
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
at least we'll always have the trilogy
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
Nice. What do you like so much about the second age? Looking forward to teen Galadriel?
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GnomeChimpsky
Member
Please leave Star Wars out of this.
dr_octagon
Banned
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Lord of the rings tv show will be a huge success.
You starting a betting pool? What's your odds?
If there was a truly objective measure of a shows quality i would totally bet on this tuff
Draugoth
Gold Member
Exclusive First Look at the Orcs From Prime Video's The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power - IGN
Check out our exclusive first look at the Orcs in The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power, along with an interview with one of the executive producers and head of the production department.
