Kacho
Member
It’s almost 10 pm in Cali now. Guessing the patch took a minute to go through the cert process, hence the delay? Either that or last minute updates.
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The Callisto Protocol Devs working on fixing PC Issuie
jigglet
Banned
Yeah I’m not complaining about it being too slow or whatever. I’m just saying they should really be quoting a time relative to where I am. I know there’s a large community of gamers out there all over the world but I’m the only one that matters to me.
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jigglet
Banned
Yes but you need to understand.
Nickolaidas
Member
No, there were a lot of complaints, and many people were telling FROM to hire better devs, of Bluepoint's level.
Desprado123
Member
Bought the game on PC after the patch.
Ocean Dweller
Member
so they had a patch out in the first 8 hours , how did they not have a pc patch ready for release? they prob could have saved their steam rating
Kacho
Member
Tbf I never had stuttering issues on PC. It obviously affected a lot of people because the game sold bananas, but I don’t think it was as widespread as Callisto Protocol.
ZehDon
Gold Member
As has been posted a few times, it looks like there was an error with the initial release, it was incorrectly patched prior to launch. The release PC version wasn’t the one that was greenlit. It’s a fuck up with versions.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
People did, and continue to, give shit to From about their engine/lack of optimization.
But ER's launch issues were nowhere near this bad.
Desprado123
Member
Wrong. ER was playable at least. Just look the video as this game even dropped to 1 fps dam. Game was totally unable and most time game was stuttering rather than rendering the game.
Desprado123
Member
Not the first time. Every game with Ray Tracing on is unplayable even if you RTX 4090. Clearly developers cannot optimize the game with Raytracing on for PC.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Probably not got dual channel RAM. Needs to fiddle with his timing settings in his bios for about 10 hours to get optimum settings.
If not reinstall all your drivers.
If not that reinstall windows.
/s
Elder Legend
Banned
I've done software/game development before and also have a degree in 3D Game Art and worked with programmers as an artist. Oh and I also work in the gaming industry and run a gaming website and have done dozens of interviews with top notch devs. The joke is on you. I am well aware of what happens during game dev.
Lazy/Bad devs do exist just like shitty real estate agents in real estate or fucking horrible lawyers. There are shit apples in every line of field. Lower down your condescending tone little Timmy and go drink your milk before bed or no Xmas gifts for you this year.
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Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
cut the crap dude. Dev A tests and optomizes the shit out of their game. Delivers a smooth and well received product. Dev B fails to test their own game and takes shortcuts in optimizing resulting in an inferior product at launch. God forbid they get called the dreaded “L” word though you guys get triggered every time.
Stop defending this kind of thing its rediculous and you guys look silly every time. Instead of getting annoyed that the same avoidable performance issues keep ruining a games launch you’re upset about them being called lazy.
Priorities bro ...we don’t owe them our gratitude they want $70 for their game. Is it too much to expect from them? No!!
YeulEmeralda
Member
Japanese developer and PC don't mix so nobody was surprised.
Rea
Member
Oh, the joke is blaming on devs when you don't know the real situation. Simply saying lazy dev is tiring. You should lower your condescending tone too, the real ones to blame are publishers who set the deadline tightly, not the actual devs who are working their ass off.
Rea
Member
The actual culprit is not the devs, its the publishers and Corpos who are setting the deadline tightly. The actual Devs are doing their best with limited time and budget which are given by their managers. Sure, there are games with correct time, budget, manpower, management. But not everything is the same in this world.
Rea
Member
I don't see people saying "Oh Fromsoftware devs are Lazy devs".
winjer
Gold Member
The speed at which they fixed the issue, is directly proportional to the backlash they got from gamers.
I bet when they saw a 27% user score on Steam, the amount of threads on forums, including the Steam forums talking about the stutters, the refunds people were doing, and the videos from tech and gaming people, made them reconsider their stance on fixing the game.
If more and more devs feel the burn from not doing proper PSO gathering and shader compilation on load, word will spread and it will become an important focus for Q&A.
Dirk Benedict
Member
Yeah, RT is kind of hidden, too. I don't mind it, though. I didn't have the best performance with it on. I turned on FSR and it helped a ton, but no RT. I can live without it.
I wish games would show requirements for low and high end systems and not these bullshit numbers for 1080p. What fucking year is it...
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Thaedolus
Member
The speed at which they fixed the issue shows it was a minor error that seemed to be missed, not that the devs were lazy and thought nobody would notice the stuttering. They obviously didn’t think they released a game with stuttering and were like oh shit toggle that switch to precache on.
Never assume first malice when incompetence will suffice
winjer
Gold Member
That's why a team for Q&A is important. To avoid screw ups like these.
Devs today are too comfortable with releasing broken games at launch, and patching it later.
You can be sure that if the backlash wasn't so big, they would go for the weekend, and only after a few days, maybe consider fixing the issue.
Thaedolus
Member
This shows that you’re missing the point: they didn’t know they shipped it with a broken ini. QA (it’s not Q&A FYI) didn’t see the stuttering and sign off on it. It was likely an issue of version control where the wrong configuration shipped on accident. That’s different than being comfortable releasing it broken then fixing it later. They didn’t think they were shipping the game with that stuttering.
winjer
Gold Member
They would know if they played the release version.
And it wasn't just a bad ini. People tried playing the game with an ini with shader compilation on load enabled, but still got stutters.
Buggy Loop
Member
r/AyyMD should have been the name of their RT optimization
But seriously, is it also problematic with AMD cards?
Grildon Tundy
Member
The patch went live, but my Steam froze when trying to implement. Uninstalled and re-downloading now. Fingers crossed their patch fixes the stuttering I saw last night that made the game worthless to play.
baphomet
Member
Not buying it until it's actually fixed.
Warhammer 40k Darktide launched the other day and I was getting 35-40fps with my CPU and GPU at like ~30%. Less than 2 days later we got an update and new Nvidia drivers and I'm getting 180+fps with everything on max, including ray tracing.
I have faith they'll get it fixed.
Warhammer 40k Darktide launched the other day and I was getting 35-40fps with my CPU and GPU at like ~30%. Less than 2 days later we got an update and new Nvidia drivers and I'm getting 180+fps with everything on max, including ray tracing.
I have faith they'll get it fixed.
drotahorror
Member
The game got patched last night at midnight, how did you manage to not patch it and why wouldn't you? Also shader compilation stutter is a universal issue.
Buggy Loop
Member
Holy crap
It needs more than just graphic updates. The save system is fucked up
Killer8
Member
Holy crap
It needs more than just graphic updates. The save system is fucked up
"Just don't die bro it works fine for me"
drotahorror
Member
Holy crap
It needs more than just graphic updates. The save system is fucked up
Damn that's shit. Those are pretty common QoL modern gaming quirks that a lot of people are used to.
Grildon Tundy
Member
YESSSS!!! They weren't lying! The PC patch actually works! Getting 100+fps 1440p Ultra (w/o RT) on a 3080. This game is beautiful. Haven't seen a single stutter like the ones I was getting every few seconds last night!
Edit: Getting about 60-80fps U Ultra with RT @1440p. Think I'll play it this way. Next-Gen-looking for sure
Edit2: Sorry, Ultra. Didn't realize I'd ping you lol
Edit: Getting about 60-80fps U Ultra with RT @1440p. Think I'll play it this way. Next-Gen-looking for sure
Edit2: Sorry, Ultra. Didn't realize I'd ping you lol
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only elden ring plays like shit basically on every platform it launched, their games never hold target framerates have horrible framepacing for over a decade now.
they simply don’t get half the flak other devs do.
basically only digital foundry calls out their issues.
Ocean Dweller
Member
Oh stop
Elder Legend
Banned
I also have friends in law enforcement. They tell me stories of horrendous and unprofessional police officers. As I said, there are bad people in every line of work. And no, I won't stop.
thanks for motivation to keep me going!
Saiyan-Rox
Member
Desprado123
Member
All most all RT games are surprisingly CPU limited ,rather than GPU.
Major bottleneck of PC port are mainly CPU bottleneck due OS and driver overhead.
