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Spider-Man remaster won't be free even if you own Spider-Man PS4
cormack12
Gold Member
It's slightly sifferent as the work to move the engines from PS3 (cell) to PS4 (x86) was actual work. What people are asking for is a recompile to bring the fps cap from 30-60 and upscale resolution.
I don't expect it from Sony, but I think being forced to buy TLOU II and GoT at full retail $70 instead of a $20 patch being available is kind of shitty.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
If Spider-man was a PC game, people would be flipping tables if they’d have to pay for a patch that added beter models and a few graphical updates. the PS5 is nothing more than a souped up PS4 and here it should be aok to pay twice for a major game patch? That’s corporate pandering.
BlitzerRadic
Member
That's because PC users are cheapskates. If it wasn't for consoles there wouldnt be AAA games on PC.
Keihart
Member
CDPR it's gonna make every other company look like chumps asking for change as usual. I hope they do very well with Cyberpunk so every other company tries to copy their practices.
I'm just kinda interested in Cyberpunk and i'm still gonna end up buying it day 1 because of how awesome they are, the retail version of W3 at launch had all kind of goodies in the box...Sony used to do the same during the PS3 era.
I'm really disappointed in the new management, i miss Kaz and Shuhei acting like good guys and the goof Kevin Buttler as the clown of turn.
Edit: BTW, yeah, no surprises here either. They have the excuse of the game being ported since it's not a new game.
I'm just kinda interested in Cyberpunk and i'm still gonna end up buying it day 1 because of how awesome they are, the retail version of W3 at launch had all kind of goodies in the box...Sony used to do the same during the PS3 era.
I'm really disappointed in the new management, i miss Kaz and Shuhei acting like good guys and the goof Kevin Buttler as the clown of turn.
Edit: BTW, yeah, no surprises here either. They have the excuse of the game being ported since it's not a new game.
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vypermajik
Member
If you already played it this isn’t for you. Far too new.
BrentonB
Member
This is like getting mad when Ford puts out next year's model with updated features. You bought the game when it was state-of-the-art. Now there is a new state-of-the-art and significant changes have been made to the game, which cost the developers time and money. They should be paid for the work they put in.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
PC remasters are usually just texture packs. This one is adding support for all the new features that the PS5 has including haptic feedback and 3D audio.
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ZippyTheOtter
Banned
Not surprised.
As much as I love miles as spiderman, I don't think I'll be buying this pack though.
As much as I love miles as spiderman, I don't think I'll be buying this pack though.
Barakov
Member
Not on console but If you owned games like Darksiders and Borderlands you got the remaster versions for free on PC. Doesn't always happen but it's nice when it does.
bishopcruz
Member
You have to buy the $70 version to get the remaster. THe original news was that Miles Morales was going to come with the Spiderman Remaster, but now we found out that it is only with the Ultimate Version. Which is their excuse to get you to pay $70 for an expansion pack.
PC games add features all the time, haptic feedback? Really? 3c audio? Come on, you guys are reaching here. Look, the updated models are likely already DONE because of the Miles Morales PS5 port, they are backporting them into the original game, and the engine work done is ALREADY done because of Miles Morales. Again, had they at least given people the upgrade only if they bought MM, I could understand, but $20 more is a joke, and a horrible value.
Kerotan
Member
It's not an expansion pack and it was it ever officially confirmed to be coming previously or just rumours?
TLZ
Banned
Isn't it included in the Miles Morales Ultimate Edition only?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Ya. Spidey Remaster only in the MM $70 Ultimate Edition.
For anyone who only wants the Spidey Remaster, just wait it out.
No different than Activision saying COD4 Remaster only comes with Infinite Warfare, so buy it. Then turns out next year they sold standalone COD4 Remasters.
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Vaelka
Member
Is there something wrong with keeping the prices of games the same?
Or are these changes only okay when they benefit the big corporations?
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
There have been plenty of PC games that received significant updates and in almost all of these these were free or there was an upgrade path for owners of the old game for a reasonable price.
The problem here is that there's neither a free nor a paid upgrade for people who bought the PS4 version. This is unacceptable IMO.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
I bought the Special Edition of Spider-Man plus the season pack for the full price. I've got the PS5 preordered and I'm pissed about this.
Codes 208
Member
Consoles =/= PC
for the same reason Sony/MS/Nintendo can get away with charging for online.
(Also not every remaster is free on pc, iirc some games like dark souls have a discount but weren’t completely free for previous owners)
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Outrunner
Member
Suck it up
kingwingin
Member
I really don't believe this will be a full on upgrade to spiderman. Its going to be a quick 4k/60 patch just to help move copies of miles morales.
If it was really as much work as they make it seem it would be sold separately to recoup costs
If it was really as much work as they make it seem it would be sold separately to recoup costs
sendit
Member
Can you name these games that have received a significant update for free on the PC?
An HD texture pack is not a significant update.
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BlitzerRadic
Member
I wouldn't be so sure about that. MM is 50 GB, UE is 105 GB, so SM Remastered is 55 GB by itself. If there was a lot of asset sharing, SM Remastered should be a lot smaller, IMO.
bishopcruz
Member
That's not really how it works. The city between the two is basically going to be the same, basic character models will likely be too. They wouldn't have done the remaster as they did without already having done the bulk of the work for MM. And as they are two different apps it isn't like they can cut out duplicate content.
PlayerPurple
Member
Then please let me direct you to my post in another Spiderman remaster thread:
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Codes 208
Member
It’s ok, you can still play that version of spiderman on your ps5 via BC.
boutrosinit
Street Fighter IV World Champion
Mate - this is a Marvel license. They ain't cheap. Giving it away for free may not have been their decision or financially feasible.
Barakov
Member
Yeah, uh, that's basically what I said.....
GhostOfTsu
Banned
Why does it matter if you bought the special edition years ago? You bought and played that game and you will be able to play it on PS5 BC. You already got your money's worth.
Spider-Man is now in bargain bins at 10$, anyone could get it and then get the full Remastered + DLC for free on PS5. You think that's fair for Insomniac after all the work they did?
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Spiderman PS4 saves aren't transferable to spiderman remastered
Some fooking buuuuuuuuuulshit
Some fooking buuuuuuuuuulshit
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Free upgrades:
Bioshock Collection
Borderlands 1, 2 and Pre-Sequel
Mafia 2 + 3
Witcher 3
Skyrim
Darksiders 2
Discounts:
Dark Souls
Kingdoms of Amalur
Codes 208
Member
I know. I was pointing out that pc’s getting different treatment from console goes without saying, it’s an apples to oranges situation regarding ports/remasters mainly due to pc’s gaming platform being one continuous generation therefore remasters are pretty much moot
PsyEd
Member
Adding ones I know of...
Free Upgrade:
Bright Memory to Bright Memory Infinite
The Vanishing of Ethan Carter to The Vanishing of Ethan Carter Redux
Discount:
Observer - System Redux
Stooky
Member
That’s ridiculous. Many other games would make you pay for this content.
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You are wrong, on PC it is called modding community which is free for the cheap mofos that don't support mod creators. I'm completely fine paying again for spiderman as long as the improvements are as good as they have mentioned, a simple res and framerate upgrade won't cut it though.
saintjules
Member
If cross save was a thing I'd definitely would have considered the UE. Right now I just pre-ordered the standard.