I wonder if Tencent would release a console if MS was to pull out of consoles?Tencent alone is larger than Xbox + all recent buyouts
FF 14 was not made on xbox because at the time xbox were the ones preventing cross play, it was against their interest at the time.-Yoshi-P wanted to put bring Final Fantasy 14 to future Xbox consoles but can't.
-I remember waiting for FF7 to land on Xbox so I can try it out, it never landed on the console so I dismissed the series entirely.
Before writing this wall of rubbish maybe you should consider that the FTC doesn't just look into monopolies? Your whole arguement is based on how this deal makes Xbox a monoply. Maybe you should go and check the FTC website about unfair competition etc. We could go much more in depth where MS could leverage their dominance in the cloud, cash etc but the only buzzword your interested in is monoply. So keep at itOne more time: And? Nothing you've typed out in your continuing quest to condescend (try saying that three times fast. . .or don't, I don't care) justifies the administrative complaint the FTC is using here. All you've whinged about is a corporate culture that hits you "in your feels" as something bad. Great. Argue that (very easily, I might add) in the numerous threads about MS and its expansion strategy. The post you ORIGINALLY slithered in to respond to was ostensibly about the justification of this complaint, particularly me asking how this deal (stay focused) creates a monopoly for MS.
Oh. Well this explains it. You think this is a proxy "console war" discussion, instead of a neutral conversation about whether this is government overreach in the face of legitimate corporate expansion or justified government intervention against anti-competitive practices.
. . .forget the first message block. Carry on.
Why don't you list all the bad things from MS and Nintendo's side? Or is it just one way traffic?Other reasons I hate Sony:
-Microsoft approached Sony for cross multiplayer and they were barred from it.
-Sony's security sucks which led to the Sony hack and they handled it piss poor.
-Yoshi-P wanted to put bring Final Fantasy 14 to future Xbox consoles but can't.
-I remember waiting for FF7 to land on Xbox so I can try it out, it never landed on the console so I dismissed the series entirely.
Why don't you list all the bad things from MS and Nintendo's side? Or is it just one way traffic?
Bold move to think someone like this thinks with reason and logic.Why don't you list all the bad things from MS and Nintendo's side? Or is it just one way traffic?
You got to have all consoles to fully enjoy gaming.Other reasons I hate Sony:
-Microsoft approached Sony for cross multiplayer and they were barred from it.
-Sony's security sucks which led to the Sony hack and they handled it piss poor.
-Yoshi-P wanted to put bring Final Fantasy 14 to future Xbox consoles but can't.
-I remember waiting for FF7 to land on Xbox so I can try it out, it never landed on the console so I dismissed the series entirely.
So, it was about making COD exclusive afterall.
Brad Smith said:PlayStation has 286 exclusive games while Xbox only has 59
So, it was about making COD exclusive afterall.
So, it was about making COD exclusive afterall.
So, it was about making COD exclusive afterall.
There are games besides COD. COD is going to be multiplat, for the 1000th time.
The quote is: "So the administrative law judge is going to have to decide whether going from 59 to 60 is such a danger to competition that he should stop this from moving forward."There are games besides COD. COD is going to be multiplat, for the 1000th time.
I'm sure it would be a case by case basis like they've done in the past. Minecraft and Call of Duty are multiplatform. I could see others staying multi-plat like Overwatch, Diablo, and more but it hasn't been specified. Obviously some games would be exclusives.So how many IPs are going exclusive?
They are literally putting Call of Duty on Nintendo, PS, PS+, everything. I didn't see the whole quote, just the tweet. Call of Duty has been explained about 10,000x now, as a multiplat game.The quote is: "So the administrative law judge is going to have to decide whether going from 59 to 60 is such a danger to competition that he should stop this from moving forward."
Are you really going to pretend the 1 game he was talking about is not COD?
Really???
Multiplat until the 10-year deal expires.There are games besides COD. COD is going to be multiplat, for the 1000th time.
10 years is a very generous deal. They can negotiate another one after that if the market conditions are similar to how they are now.Multiplat until the 10-year deal expires.
Guess you haven't been paying attention.
Click the link in the tweet and read the quote. Or don't, and feel confident that I cut and pasted it from the article linked to in the tweet.They are literally putting Call of Duty on Nintendo, PS, PS+, everything. I didn't see the whole quote, just the tweet. Call of Duty has been explained about 10,000x now, as a multiplat game.
I'm sure it would be a case by case basis like they've done in the past. Minecraft and Call of Duty are multiplatform. I could see others staying multi-plat like Overwatch, Diablo, and more but it hasn't been specified. Obviously some games would be exclusives.
Seems like they're leaning into new IP being more likely to be exclusive. Bungie is probably doing something similar.
No idea. I'd rather wait for concrete info than guess. It's not platitudes. I've said from day 1 it's my opinion it would stay multi-platform, and they've been insanely consistent in repeatedly saying it will stay multiplatform literally over and over and over. One quote that vaguely hints the other way isn't changing my mind. I think they have every intention of doing what they've said they're going to do.Click the link in the tweet and read the quote. Or don't, and feel confident that I cut and pasted it from the article linked to in the tweet.
Then stop dodging the question with platitudes please. He is a top MS guy saying there is no harm in MS getting 1 more exclusive. What game do you think he is talking about if not COD? And no, it won't be Diablo 4. That launches before the trial even begins.
So, it was about making COD exclusive afterall.
So, it was about making COD exclusive afterall.
Brad….brad. Had you fucks attempted to EVER manage XGS properly, you could have had as many exclusives well before now.
I'm just in disbelief you would deny that he is talking about COD in that context. I'm literally not asking you to say they would or would not make it exclusive based on that quote alone. I just can't believe you would even pretend he might be talking about something else.No idea. I'd rather wait for concrete info than guess. It's not platitudes. I've said from day 1 it's my opinion it would stay multi-platform, and they've been insanely consistent in repeatedly saying it will stay multiplatform literally over and over and over. One quote that vaguely hints the other way isn't changing my mind. I think they have every intention of doing what they've said they're going to do.
Well the entire conversation I was having with someone else was about people CLEARLY claiming MS is now going to make it exclusive. The original person I was actually talking to first said that I wasn't paying attention because it's so obvious now that it's clearly going exclusive in 10 years. That's literally what the post I replied to is entirely about. I'm not sure what you're in disbelief about, but I genuinely think you guys are wrong about Call of Duty going exclusive. I think they're arguing about the general state of exclusives collectively - and how stacked Sony is compared to MS in that area.I'm literally not asking you to say they would or would not make it exclusive based on that quote alone.
When they start saying things like: We will judge year 11 when we get closer, and even if we made it exclusive . . . . . , you will have your chance to redeem yourself and admit they are talking about COD (even if we agree or disagree on their intent).Well the entire conversation I was having with someone else was about people CLEARLY claiming MS is now going to make it exclusive. The original person I was actually talking to first said that I wasn't paying attention because it's so obvious now that it's clearly going exclusive in 10 years. That's literally what the post I replied to is entirely about. I'm not sure what you're in disbelief about, but I genuinely think you guys are wrong about Call of Duty going exclusive. I think they're arguing about the general state of exclusives and how stacked Sony is compared to MS in that area.
I'm at work and can't open your link, since its blocked.When they start saying things like: We will judge year 11 when we get closer, and even if we made it exclusive . . . . . , you will have your chance to redeem yourself and admit they are talking about COD (even if we agree or disagree on their intent).
Oh yeah, it's essentially guaranteed they start (I guess continue based on the article) saying things to the above effect. PR is much easier to use in interviews than depositions and witness stands.
No idea. I'd rather wait for concrete info than guess. It's not platitudes. I've said from day 1 it's my opinion it would stay multi-platform, and they've been insanely consistent in repeatedly saying it will stay multiplatform literally over and over and over. One quote that vaguely hints the other way isn't changing my mind. I think they have every intention of doing what they've said they're going to do.
The way it reads to me is like he was just trying to point out that Sony has a lot more exclusives than they do.
Before writing this wall of rubbish maybe you should consider that the FTC doesn't just look into monopolies? Your whole arguement is based on how this deal makes Xbox a monoply. Maybe you should go and check the FTC website about unfair competition etc. We could go much more in depth where MS could leverage their dominance in the cloud, cash etc but the only buzzword your interested in is monoply. So keep at it
The quote is: "So the administrative law judge is going to have to decide whether going from 59 to 60 is such a danger to competition that he should stop this from moving forward."
Are you really going to pretend the 1 game he was talking about is not COD?
Really???
I read that as the inevitable shift in posturing that I would expect when they know they will be under oath soon. They are in this mess partially because they played coy when asked about intent for Bethesda games before EU cleared that purchase (it wasn't just to EU, but I think publicly they played coy by denying right to discuss plans before closing). In a trial proceeding, they will be cross examined and pushed for specifics with reference to last purchase leading to foreclosure of access to new Bethesda games.I'm at work and can't open your link, since its blocked.
For the sake of argument, lets say they're talking about Call of Duty. So you read it already and think they will make it exclusive.
I still don't think it will be exclusive. I think they're arguing about the state of the industry power balance. Hope that clears this up for you.
So, it was about making COD exclusive afterall.
Maybe? I'd admit I was wrong if that happened. I just personally think it's unthinkable after how many EXTREMELY public assurances they've given that this is not what they're doing. I think they'd lose way too much money. I think they have a history of doing exactly what I'm talking about with Minecraft.I read that as the inevitable shift in posturing that I would expect when they know they will be under oath soon. They are in this mess partially because they played coy when asked about intent for Bethesda games before EU cleared that purchase (it wasn't just to EU, but I think publicly they played coy by denying right to discuss plans before closing). In a trial proceeding, they will be cross examined and pushed for specifics with reference to last purchase leading to foreclosure of access to new Bethesda games.
If you are asking what my guess is for their future plans, I expect they would make it exclusive long before 10 years is up. My guess includes the assumption that any 10 year deal they offer Sony is so loaded with poison pills that they know Sony will never agree. And then they can blame Sony in their PR for making it exclusive as soon as the marketing agreement expires. To the extent they have any deal with Nintendo, they will have an out (if even needed) by hardware limitations.
You already quoted the receipts, "PlayStation has 286 exclusive games while Xbox only has 59". I assume he also counts timed and console exclusives, but they are still exclusives.I’d really love to see the receipts for the numbers he cited about exclusives because it seems as spun as everything else they’ve been saying regarding this merger
So, it was about making COD exclusive afterall.
throwing numbers out there without sourcing is not receiptsYou already quoted the receipts, "PlayStation has 286 exclusive games while Xbox only has 59". I assume he also counts timed and console exclusives, but they are still exclusives.
They probably include all small ish and indie third party titles that would not be ported just because they are made by studios that do not have resources or time to port to the xbox platform.I’d really love to see the receipts for the numbers he cited about exclusives because it seems as spun as everything else they’ve been saying regarding this merger
The timed and console exclusives are only there because MS can’t make deals…You already quoted the receipts, "PlayStation has 286 exclusive games while Xbox only has 59". I assume he also counts timed and console exclusives, but they are still exclusives.
So, it was about making COD exclusive afterall.
You can use the PS and Xbox stores as sourcethrowing numbers out there without sourcing is not receipts
So, it was about making COD exclusive afterall.
1st. no, see 3rd-Microsoft approached Sony for cross multiplayer and they were barred from it.
-Sony's security sucks which led to the Sony hack and they handled it piss poor.
-Yoshi-P wanted to put bring Final Fantasy 14 to future Xbox consoles but can't.
-I remember waiting for FF7 to land on Xbox so I can try it out, it never landed on the console so I dismissed the series entirely.
Wow there is some serious deparate takes coming from the ms camp. I mean sony said some desperate stuff aswell, but ms is taking it to another level.
I miss the misterXmedia drops!! that was the best time on gaming forums! people* went NUTS!5th. are ya colteastwood or misterXmedia ?
Wait.The timed and console exclusives are only there because MS can’t make deals…
So far only you it seems. Only explanation I can think of for saying "xbots".OK, how many of you are actually ChatGPT bots?