Grinchy
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The future ain't what it used to be.Isn't the future always coming?
The future ain't what it used to be.Isn't the future always coming?
This is a dumb, overly long response to try contesting the facts of the matter. PS2 was weaker than GCN and Xbox, because Sony rushed it to market to beat the competition resulting in a weaker system with a cheap build. The strategy worked, don't have to create fanboy delusions two generations later to defend Sony's business decisions.
I laughed
Yes, it's called marketing. It's competition for power at the time were consoles that were respectively nearly one and a half years old(Dreamcast), and the 4-5 year old N64 and PS1. So congrats to it I guess?
nothing delusional about it.
The PS2 was hyped up to be this powerful console.
It's not about surprise, the argument was about whether or not power matters to winning a generation, which history has proved that it's not usually a major factor. The reality of power is even less of a factor than the perception of it by the general public.Don't why people are so surprised the two consoles was more powerful especially with graphical features that neither Dreamcast or PS2 could possibly have at the time of their conception.
This is where the delusion is at : thinking power relative to GCN/XBOX was a major factor in PS2's victory.Xbox and GCN was doing some next gen shit.
It was impressive the PS2 kept up.
And it was more impressive when the other two couldn't due to PS2's monstrous bandwidth.
Well it was the games that won.Yes, it's called marketing. It's competition for power at the time were consoles that were respectively nearly one and a half years old(Dreamcast), and the 4-5 year old N64 and PS1. So congrats to it I guess?
It's not about surprise, the argument was about whether or not power matters to winning a generation, which history has proved that it's not usually a major factor. The reality of power is even less of a factor than the perception of it by the general public.
This is where the delusion is at : thinking power relative to GCN/XBOX was a major factor in PS2's victory.
For sure, but especially back in the day getting those games was dependent on marketshare which had many factors involved. It's not like Sony's first party was tearing it up to make it sell, it was a combo of being first to market of the next gen consoles, being one of if not the cheapest DVD players on the market at the time, strong marketing campaign and being the successor to a very successful console in the PS1 that itself was in part due to Sony fostering good relations with third party developers, that led to it's early momentum. Microsoft being an American company has always has an inherently tougher time with relationships with Japanese devs.Well it was the games that won.
Always was, always will be.
So what you're saying is that first on the market is more important than power. Interesting. But hey I'm sure a more powerful system that comes out first will instantly beat a weaker one. ....Say, I notice you forgot to mention the Dreamcast? You know, the system that could do better visuals than the PS2 that came out a year before it? Odd that.
You ain't got clue what you're going on about.
The PS2 was the most powerful games console when it released
And it was marketed that way too
Nothing on the market could touch it's raw power
putting two consoles that released a year or two later and going look it's the weakest is dumb.
And it killed both those consoles and next gen consoles when came to bandwidth
And the machine was designed in 1998.
On top of that the PS2 had already dominated by time the GCN and Xbox arrived
9tf isn't twice the power, it's 2.73x the power. 9.2 RDNA Teraflops = 11.5 GCN Teraflops so it's nearly 3x the GPU, plus the additional bandwidth and a faster CPU. That's no slouch.Really hope this isn't accurate, having just twice the power of the PS4 Pro really isn't going to cut it, especially considering most folks use the Pro at 1080p, and by the time next-gen rolls around more of us will be defaulting to 4k which I imagine games will be targetting.
Would 9TF leave enough in the bank for improved shaders and geometry at 4k, over current gen at 1080p?
Don't get too excited it's probably TV related.
If you say so.Aha and how you know i am not?
In house trailer with game play from nd, sp, sm or pd is my guess with the box and 'we'll tell you more at the Psm in feb' if there's anything mentioned at all.They'll show the final PS5 design, no specs.
Please stop posting that monster
Imagine GG showing off Horizon Zero Dawn 2 for PS5 and that's the robots Cory Barlog was talking about.In house trailer with game play from nd, sp, sm or pd is my guess with the box and 'we'll tell you more at the Psm in feb' if there's anything mentioned at all.
Will be minimal info.
That’s right... Emotion Engine 2.0, baby!to unleash new sensations and emotions.”
This is kind of uncalled for mate.
The climate activist Greta Thunberg.Who is this girl? I've seen her face everywhere the last couple weeks?
The climate activist Greta Thunberg.
Who is this girl? I've seen her face everywhere the last couple weeks?
This is kind of uncalled for mate.
The climate activist Greta Thunberg.
I wonder what Sony Santa Monica have been up too.
No.
I, for one, refuse to be lectured at by some 16 year old brat because it's fashionable at the moment.
I agree this is uncalled for. But the people you need to be angry at is not her, but her parents and the media/leftists who is enabling/exploiting her.No.
I, for one, refuse to be lectured at by some 16 year old brat because it's fashionable at the moment.
He was the director for God of War 2 and the most recent God of War.This is the guy responsible for God of War, isn't it? Legend. What a game. I can't praise it enough!
How do it know?Aha and how you know i am not?
Please stop posting that monster
No, I wasn't saying first to market wins, because PS2 wasn't firstSo what you're saying is that first on the market is more important than power. Interesting. But hey I'm sure a more powerful system that comes out first will instantly beat a weaker one. ....Say, I notice you forgot to mention the Dreamcast? You know, the system that could do better visuals than the PS2 that came out a year before it? Odd that.
No.
I, for one, refuse to be lectured at by some 16 year old brat because it's fashionable at the moment.
No, I wasn't saying first to market wins, because PS2 wasn't first
And I didn't forget the Dreamcast, yes it could do things better, it had more Vram if I remember correctly.
So Textures looked way better,
But overall PS2 was more powerful.
It was like the PS2 could handle loads of particles effects compared to the other newer consoles, but overall it was weaker.
So, Sony is about to reveal something new in CES 2020.
My bet is on new games and maybe some info on PS5's hardware. (similar to SeX Reveal)
It's almost time to see what new things guerrilla games has in store for us. with the power of Decima and PS5 sony might want to demonstrate how powerful their console truly is. So i guess we might see something from this team (New Killzone or Horizon 2 maybe?)
I doubt we see the console's form factor at all. the best place to do that would be ps meeting. Unless they want to skip it totally and with the current situation, It is not clear what sony might do in the next five minutes tbh.
Isn't the future always coming?
Significantly better 1st party? How do you know? Time will be the judge on that.Thats a VERY big IF my friend. Otherwise,going to be a long gen of XSX winning every DF head to head. Brings back the Xbox 360 feels. Except now, Xbox has significantly better 1st party and the cheaper Lockhart sku. Interesting times indeed.
How do it know?
9.2 sory 9.16 teraflop incoming.
$399 and no games.
The future is here.
Interesting, kinda adds up with the future is coming theme and PlayStation's cryptic Tweet from Death Stranding.This is the guy responsible for God of War, isn't it? Legend. What a game. I can't praise it enough!
Better exclusive games then pc which means better games altogether
You're right, I confused CES with GDC lmao.Highly doubtful they reveal games. They'll reveal the console if they're doing anything Playstation related. CES is more for the rest of their products, TVs, cameras, etc. since the windows to show that stuff off are limited.