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So with all this Chip Shortage with the PS5 and Series X
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saintjules
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I'd imagine the lifespan may increase for both generations by another year or so because of the shortage. So as long as the chip shortage doesn't affect previous gen hardware. Not sure on that part yet.
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CuteFaceJay
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Legit, World will stand still.
Magic Carpet
Banned
Will Taiwan destroy the factory at the first sign of invasion? Big Red self destruct button.
How worse we talking?
Punished Miku
Banned
Xbox One is probably already phased out, and can utilize cloud gaming now.
Switch 2 probably in 2024.
PS4, who knows. That's the only real question. I think projects are already far enough along that it was decided a while ago. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see scalable games on PS4 and PS5. The MS and Ryan approach now seems to be ubiquitous releases across any available platforms, rather than hard exclusives. Playstation is rumored to be in a cloud gaming deal with Netflix, so maybe that will replace PS4 as a substitute for people who can't get systems.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Foxconn, TSMC will probably have quite a bit of problems. So like 80% of the IT consumer industry
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
The PlayStation 2 was being produced until 2013... so the PS4 may stick around a lot longer than people think regardless of chip shortage.
Damn that’s the same year the PS4 released. Wow.
SlimySnake
The Contrarian
You are looking at a 10 year gen for sure.
Horizon, GoW, GT7 are all cross gen. Their next games will take 5 years. You are looking at 2027 releases for most of these studios and thats when next gen consoles should be launching, but seeing as how everyone is so late to the party, Sony and MS will just delay their next console by a few years.
Mid gen wont arrive until 2025 this time around.
Horizon, GoW, GT7 are all cross gen. Their next games will take 5 years. You are looking at 2027 releases for most of these studios and thats when next gen consoles should be launching, but seeing as how everyone is so late to the party, Sony and MS will just delay their next console by a few years.
Mid gen wont arrive until 2025 this time around.
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
Sony is releasing three flagship sequels next year and they're all cross-gen.
Phil Spencer said in July 2020 that Xbox Studios games will be cross-gen for the "next couple of years".
Tells you all you need to know. "Next gen" won't really kick off until 2023. More than anything I wish we'd just stop using the word generation now, it's almost meaningless.
Phil Spencer said in July 2020 that Xbox Studios games will be cross-gen for the "next couple of years".
Tells you all you need to know. "Next gen" won't really kick off until 2023. More than anything I wish we'd just stop using the word generation now, it's almost meaningless.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
I still see the launch PS5 and Xbox Series X/S as "soft launches." We know that originally some stuff like GT7 was not supposed to be cross gen and we are seeing a lot of games be cross gen that a lot of people anticipated wouldn't be.
That leads me to think we will get at least 8 years of support.
That leads me to think we will get at least 8 years of support.
Kagey K
Banned
When the XB1/PS4 first launched I thought that was going to be a stopgap gen and we'd see new machines sooner, but they both managed to stretch it out with
MidGenRefresh
FrankWza
Gold Member
Waiting for a slim or revised console has never been a worse beat. The best generation to be an early adopter is this gen no matter how you slice it. Demand has never been higher, mid gen “pro”consoles are further out than last gen and there is so much uncertainty that the chances of securing a console might go DOWN in years 2 and 3. Crazy.
Edit: also, price drops are even further out that usual
Edit: also, price drops are even further out that usual
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Hum...the PS4 is barely in production as we speak to give way to the PS5.
I barely see PS4 consoles on sale out there anymore.
If anything, they will extend this gen a lot more if they don't get the numbers they expected in 5 or 6 years.
DenchDeckard
Gold Member
I think there could be some dire situations if it continues. Game dev time will take longer and require re working to be cross gen. It could be pretty rough.
I think the world needs to realise it doesn't need new phones every year. New gpus etc. But that drives new adoption, and these businesses are built on pure consumerism.
It's pretty crazy when you think about it.
I think the world needs to realise it doesn't need new phones every year. New gpus etc. But that drives new adoption, and these businesses are built on pure consumerism.
It's pretty crazy when you think about it.
aka my prediction
FrankWza
Gold Member
Do people still upgrade their phones annually? Isn’t it just demand is high because almost every person between 10 and death has a smartphone?
FeldMonster
Member
The lifespan of Xbox One will be as long as cloud gaming is supported on it, i.e. long past the time when native games will no longer be made for it.
Pallas
Gold Member
Wouldn’t there be a shortage of Xbox One S and PS4’s as well once current stock has been exhausted, because of semiconductor chips are being used for the newer generation of consoles or am I missing something?
I bet finding a brand new PS4Pro or Xbox one X is difficult right now …
I bet finding a brand new PS4Pro or Xbox one X is difficult right now …
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Captain Toad
Member
Um, fuck that.
Dream-Knife
Member
Is the PS4 still being produced? Controllers?
Smartphone replacement cycle worldwide 2013-2020 | Statista
This statistic shows the average lifespan (replacement cycle length) of smartphones worldwide from 2013 to 2020.
www.statista.com
It's gone from 2 years to about 2.75 years
cireza
Member
The game in your avatar could run on Dreamcast.
MikeM
Member
This is scary.
Agreed. But to feed the capitalism machine, we need constant progress and a mentality of everything being old the day after you buy it.
cireza
Member
Problem is that I can barely see the progress we made with consoles during the last 15 years.
Chris_Rivera
Member
That’s why they are building fabs in America and elsewhere. China invading would just further cement this.
MikeM
Member
To be fair, there is a large enough gap in console generations that the differences are pretty large.
cireza
Member
In terms of games and gameplay, it certainly does not feel like this to me. Everything has been stagnant ever since the PS360. We got better resolution and framerate, but innovation in terms of gameplay ? I don't think so. We are playing exactly the same games.
PS4 and XBox One were probably limited by their CPU, but now we have two very powerful and balanced consoles. We need to make them last for as long as possible and stop this absurd race forward.
RDaneelOlivaw
Neo Member
Which will take half a decade to ramp. If China invaded Taiwan and took control of TSMC and then used it only to pump out chips for China itself and nobody else, can you imagine? It'd be globally devastating.
KingGhidorah
Banned
very worse, gaming and chips would be the last thing in everyone's mind
MikeM
Member
Devastating short term. It would be a boon for first world economies to remove manufacturing from China though. Nodes aren't as good elsewhere but given enough investment they would catch up to TSMC in time.
Punished Miku
Banned
Only Chinese consumers would be able to tell their washing machine to run a speed wash from their phone. Everyone else would have to put up with cars that just drive perfectly fine, and get some Aux cords. AKA: complete global pandemonium.
Captain Toad
Member
Okay, but I don't want to limit myself to ONLY games that could run on 20 year-old hardware.
kingpotato
Ask me about my Stream Deck
Biden says US will defend Taiwan if China attacks
His comments are an apparent departure from the long-held US position of "strategic ambiguity".
www.bbc.com
Very very very bad
Punished Miku
Banned
I'm a skeptic on that. Not to derail too far, but it's not a realistic position.Biden says US will defend Taiwan if China attacks
His comments are an apparent departure from the long-held US position of "strategic ambiguity".www.bbc.com
Very very very bad
China is right next to Russia and North Korea. They make everything and all their supply lines are right there. It would easily trigger a nuclear WWIII. No nuclear power is going to just sit there and get attacked. We'd huff and puff and throw up a few limited sanctions at the very most, and watch it go down like Hong Kong.
People have to accept that not everything can be won by pure force. China is obviously too strong for that kind of approach, especially with a country that is sadly right next to them and will always be threatened in this way.
It would take the entire world agreeing that this isn't okay and standing up to China in terms of sanctions and trade penalties. There isn't a military solution, since nuclear war means everyone loses. Everyone in the US is so used to being the only major power, but we're entering a multi-polar world with multiple players that can sometimes get their way.
kingpotato
Ask me about my Stream Deck
I would agree, but the US' lack of sanity these recent years has me concerned that anything dumb could happen at any moment. Just because a war breaks out doesn't mean the nukes fall day 1 either. There would likely be full cyber warfare day 1 followed by smaller scale fighting in the Pacific. But I don't know shit about shit so hopefully nothing happens.
PharaoTutAnchAmun
Member
No dont believe "rumors" The truth is Sony is a long time talking with MS to use the Cloud tech.
Fare thee well
Neophyte
We're in strange times, getting stranger. I just hope in the next decade we still have the luxury of thinking/worrying about just video games.
PharaoTutAnchAmun
Member
MS is not producing the Xbox one X anymore so you wil not find them when the stock is dried out.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
15 years ago we were in 2006, the PS2 was still the go-to console. The PS3 was not even released and Xbox 360 was on sale with a component cable and with no HDD. HD gaming hadn't started, we were still using DVDs and there was barely any online gaming for consoles.
God of War 2 was still in development and plenty of life was still left for the PS2.
I'm writing this comment and looking at my PS5 and laughing at how much has changed in 15 years tbh.
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