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[Jesb]

The 3rd party support is mostly games already made. It's not like they are doing a lot here.

 

[DeafTourette]

I foresee VF Crossroads coming to S2

 

[diffusionx]

this thread aged... poorly

thinking about getting metaphor for s2 seems like a good game for portable

 

[KU_]

I think the best thing about this thread is that it was created literally two days after the S2 launched in North America. Like, he didn't even give himself a month or a week even to make this declaration. In a day and age where console generations last 6+ years, he chose to make this hot take two days into the S2's life.

 

[blacktout]

I'm honestly curious how many of the games mentioned in this thread have since been announced for (or even released on) Switch 2.

I noticed that there was discussion about Residential Evil 9 skipping the Switch 2 on the first page, lol.

 

[Gambit2483]

The 3rd party support is mostly games already made. It's not like they are doing a lot here.

So are they only supposed to get support for games yet released?

I don't understand this logic. There's an entire generation of gamers that have never played games like Kingdom Hearts or gamers that didn't own a PS5 and never got to play Lies of P or Stellar Blade.

Should Switch owners be prohibited from ever playing a game that has already released?

 

[Hudo]

Lmao.

 

[LordOcidax]

The 3rd party support is mostly games already made. It's not like they are doing a lot here.

GTA6 PC port means nothing confirmed...

 

[Baemono]

But even ignoring day-and-date, how many "impossible ports" (PS4-gen only AAA games) did the Switch get? Less than 10?

A lot (I know cause I bought a lot of them). By memory (so very selective):
- Wolfenstein II
- Doom 2016
- Wolfenstein Youngblood
- Doom Eternal
- The Witcher 3
- The Outer Worlds
- No Man's Sky
- Spyro remake trilogy
- Crash remake trilogy
- Crash 4
- CTR
- Tony Hawk 1+2
- Tony Hawk 3+4
- It Takes Two
- Hogwarts Legacy
- Mortal Kombat 11
- Mortal Kombat 1 (this one was even more impossible as it was a current-gen only game)
- LEGO Skywalker Saga
- Ark Survivor Evolved
- Sniper Elite 4
- Batman Arkham Knight
- Ace Combat 7
- Nier: Automata
- Hellblade
- Bright Memory (also only PS5/Series S/X game so even more impossible)
- Kingdom Come Delivrance

 

[Vaquilla]

A lot (I know cause I bought a lot of them). By memory (so very selective):
- Wolfenstein II
- Doom 2016
- Wolfenstein Youngblood
- Doom Eternal
- The Witcher 3
- The Outer Worlds
- No Man's Sky
- Spyro remake trilogy
- Crash remake trilogy
- Crash 4
- CTR
- Tony Hawk 1+2
- Tony Hawk 3+4
- It Takes Two
- Hogwarts Legacy
- Mortal Kombat 11
- Mortal Kombat 1 (this one was even more impossible as it was a current-gen only game)
- LEGO Skywalker Saga
- Ark Survivor Evolved
- Sniper Elite 4
- Batman Arkham Knight
- Ace Combat 7
- Nier: Automata
- Hellblade
- Bright Memory (also only PS5/Series S/X game so even more impossible)

I own more of these than I care to admit lmao
Don't forget Kingdom Come Deliverance too.

Still though, it feels like Switch 2 already has more than this released/announced even after just a year, and they're much less compromised this time around as well.

 

[Baemono]

Don't forget Kingdom Come Deliverance too.

Oh yes I totally did

Still though, it feels like Switch 2 already has more than this released/announced even after just a year, and they're much less compromised this time around as well.

Clearly, it launched with a lot of 3rd party games, even very recent ones (the most recent being Split Fiction, released only 4 month prior the console's launch), and if the console didn't have devkits shortage, the games we saw in the direct would've probably end up being launch titles.

 

[ResilientBanana]

I said that right when they started showcasing games for Switch 2. It's too under-powered, it's like developing for the Xbox Series S all over again. No one has time for that.

 

[NPlusEnjoyer]

I said that right when they started showcasing games for Switch 2. It's too under-powered, it's like developing for the Xbox Series S all over again. No one has time for that.

You're so wrong. The existence of XSS is a gift for Nintendo. Since devs developing for XSX are obliged to develop for XSS too, they have an almost ready-made Switch 2 ports on their hands. So it's exactly opposite to what you're saying.

 

[LordOcidax]

You're so wrong. The existence of XSS is a gift for Nintendo. Since devs developing for XSX are obliged to develop for XSS too, they have an almost ready-made Switch 2 ports on their hands. So it's exactly opposite to what you're saying.

Agree, but now Switch 2 ports are selling better than Xbox series ports, especially in Japan and some countries in Europe.

 

[crackajack]

I said that right when they started showcasing games for Switch 2. It's too under-powered, it's like developing for the Xbox Series S all over again. No one has time for that.

No time for XSS, sure, XSS and XSX both are nowhere in the world super important, in Murica a bit maybe, but Switch 2 sells well. If you want to sell in Japan it is the go to device. So not porting loses you practically the entire Japanese market, whereas not porting to XSS and thus XSX does not lose you an entire region, just the few diehard Xbox only unicorns.

 

[Jesb]

So are they only supposed to get support for games yet released?

I don't understand this logic. There's an entire generation of gamers that have never played games like Kingdom Hearts or gamers that didn't own a PS5 and never got to play Lies of P or Stellar Blade.

Should Switch owners be prohibited from ever playing a game that has already released?

What logic. Just pointing out what they're getting. It's not like it's a big commitment from 3rd parties.

 

[Hyet]

Agree, but now Switch 2 ports are selling better than Xbox series ports, especially in Japan and some countries in Europe.

It's hilarious to think about how XBOX self sabotaged this generation:
1. They enforce Series S development... enablin Switch 2 ports that end up selling better than on XBOX
2. Go multiplat wth their own games... that end up selling better on literally any other system

I get what they were going for but Nintendo and Sony would never let it happen lol

 

[ResilientBanana]

You're so wrong. The existence of XSS is a gift for Nintendo. Since devs developing for XSX are obliged to develop for XSS too, they have an almost ready-made Switch 2 ports on their hands. So it's exactly opposite to what you're saying.

XSS will die soon though. Leaving Switch 2 users with obsolete hardware once again, pretty early on, once again. From there, you will get 10 years on obsolete hardware with low resolutions and fps, once again.

 

[Deerock71]

XSS will die soon though.

Source? This is a pretty flimsy limb you're standing on to make such a bold statement.

 

[_oni_]

A lot (I know cause I bought a lot of them). By memory (so very selective):
- Wolfenstein II
- Doom 2016
- Wolfenstein Youngblood
- Doom Eternal
- The Witcher 3
- The Outer Worlds
- No Man's Sky
- Spyro remake trilogy
- Crash remake trilogy
- Crash 4
- CTR
- Tony Hawk 1+2
- Tony Hawk 3+4
- It Takes Two
- Hogwarts Legacy
- Mortal Kombat 11
- Mortal Kombat 1 (this one was even more impossible as it was a current-gen only game)
- LEGO Skywalker Saga
- Ark Survivor Evolved
- Sniper Elite 4
- Batman Arkham Knight
- Ace Combat 7
- Nier: Automata
- Hellblade
- Bright Memory (also only PS5/Series S/X game so even more impossible)
- Kingdom Come Delivrance

Also Hellblade

 

[Baemono]

Also Hellblade

Which is already listed...

 

[IDKFA]

XSS will die soon though. Leaving Switch 2 users with obsolete hardware once again, pretty early on, once again. From there, you will get 10 years on obsolete hardware with low resolutions and fps, once again.

Xbox Series S is doing relatively good numbers.

You can pick up the console for £298 in the UK. Wait until GTA VI drops. Most causal gamers will pick the series S over the Series X or PS5 because it's so much cheaper.

My PS5 died and I'm tempted to buy another Series S (son uses the current one) and save over £200.

 

[Hyet]

. From there, you will get 10 years on obsolete hardware with low resolutions and fps, once again.

Given that current games take like 7 years to develop and that no developer programs for harware that won't exist for 7 years, I don't think it's going to be a dramatic shift, specially given how well Swich games sell.

 

[_oni_]

Which is already listed...

Damn I'm blind

 

[Baemono]

Xbox Series S is doing relatively good numbers.

You can pick up the console for £298 in the UK. Wait until GTA VI drops. Most causal gamers will pick the series S over the Series X or PS5 because it's so much cheaper.

My PS5 died and I'm tempted to buy another Series S (son uses the current one) and save over £200.

I tried to buy one several weeks ago, I saw it listed at 400€, I didn't see the point

 

[FoxMcChief]

The 3rd party support is mostly games already made. It's not like they are doing a lot here.

 

[crackajack]

Xbox Series S is doing relatively good numbers.

You can pick up the console for £298 in the UK. Wait until GTA VI drops. Most causal gamers will pick the series S over the Series X or PS5 because it's so much cheaper.

My PS5 died and I'm tempted to buy another Series S (son uses the current one) and save over £200.

I kinda regret not getting one when it was 222€. That price was insane, and is almost unbelievable today just a few months later.
But I also would not know what for. I won't buy games for it, at most maybe Halo MCC, and a second subscription makes also hardly sense. No time for all that.

Similar with handheld gaming. It would be nice to own a Switch. But for what... I'd buy two or three games and then it is inevitably expensive.

Don't even have time for PC gaming. And, again, have a PC that is already aging and practically unused beyond browser and spotify any cheaper PC can do. All EGS freebies just going into the archives, unplayed.

Owning several platforms makes less sense than ever before. All platforms offer entertainment and require way more time than any human being can have.

 

[IDKFA]

I tried to buy one several weeks ago, I saw it listed at 400€, I didn't see the point

400? I guess that's for the 1TB version. They're below £300 in the UK, but only the 500gb model. For £300 it's a bargain.

If Microsoft were smart, they'd keep it below 300 and shout from the rooftops that this is the cheapest way to play GTA VI.

 

[tkscz]

The 3rd party support is mostly games already made. It's not like they are doing a lot here.

Capcom is doing a lot but most of them are playing catch up due to receiving dev kits late. Still it's support.

 

[Baemono]

If Microsoft were smart

Lol

 

[RoboFu]

The big problem right now seems to be that all the games coming out this year and last have been in development for years already and some devs got dev kits very late.
They seem to be throwing switch 2 ports together and then greatly updating them a month later. I guess that why some games coming out soon have switch ports a month or so behind.

 

[rodrigolfp]

I activate my face down card: plans change.

Yep, now I'm a insider.

indies still don't count??

 

[Woopah]

I can't wait to play Resident Evil 9 and Onimusha on Switch 2. Those are coming, right?

People are too hard on you OP. This prediction was spot on!

The 3rd party support is mostly games already made. It's not like they are doing a lot here.

Not sure that's true. In the last week we saw quite a few new releases get announced/shown for Switch 2.

 

[Woopah]

Here's how I would currently rank the major publishers for Switch 2, anyone agree/disagree?

A - Square Enix, Koei Tecmo, Capcom
B - Sega, Ubisoft, Activision
C - Bethesda, Konami
D - EA, Take Two, Namco Bandai, Microsoft
E - Atlus

 

[GymWolf]

Good, next is the fucking ps6 portable.

 

[DeafTourette]

I can't wait to play Resident Evil 9 and Onimusha on Switch 2. Those are coming, right?

Yes. Yes they are.

 

[DeafTourette]

Here's how I would currently rank the major publishers for Switch 2, anyone agree/disagree?

A - Square Enix, Koei Tecmo, Capcom
B - Sega, Ubisoft, Activision
C - Bethesda, Konami
D - EA, Take Two, Namco Bandai, Microsoft
E - Atlus

Accurate

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

A lot (I know cause I bought a lot of them). By memory (so very selective):
- Wolfenstein II
- Doom 2016
- Wolfenstein Youngblood
- Doom Eternal
- The Witcher 3
- The Outer Worlds
- No Man's Sky
- Spyro remake trilogy
- Crash remake trilogy
- Crash 4
- CTR
- Tony Hawk 1+2
- Tony Hawk 3+4
- It Takes Two
- Hogwarts Legacy
- Mortal Kombat 11
- Mortal Kombat 1 (this one was even more impossible as it was a current-gen only game)
- LEGO Skywalker Saga
- Ark Survivor Evolved
- Sniper Elite 4
- Batman Arkham Knight
- Ace Combat 7
- Nier: Automata
- Hellblade
- Bright Memory (also only PS5/Series S/X game so even more impossible)
- Kingdom Come Delivrance

you dont have to punish yourself like this

 

[xenosys]

this thread aged... poorly

thinking about getting metaphor for s2 seems like a good game for portable

Yeah, no shit.

 

[blacktout]

What logic. Just pointing out what they're getting. It's not like it's a big commitment from 3rd parties.

Square and Capcom are both fully committed to releasing games day one on the Switch 2. We have a ton of evidence of this now, and I believe all their major upcoming releases have been confirmed to be coming day and date.

Here's how I would currently rank the major publishers for Switch 2, anyone agree/disagree?

A - Square Enix, Koei Tecmo, Capcom
B - Sega, Ubisoft, Activision
C - Bethesda, Konami
D - EA, Take Two, Namco Bandai, Microsoft
E - Atlus

I would move Bethesda up to B, since I believe the only major release we're missing from them is Doom. The fact that they've already brought Fallout, Indiana Jones, and *sigh* Skyrim, with Oblivion on the way, seems like really solid support for Year One.

I would also probably move Atlus up to C. It's ridiculous that they haven't anounced P4R or P6 for the platform yet, but they've released two games on the platform already with a third coming this fall, so it's not catastrophic, and certainly not worse than Microsoft (minus Bethesda and Activision), which has only brought over, what, South of Midnight?

Edit: Bethesda has also patched both Skyrim and Fallout 4 since launch to dramatically improve graphics and performance, so that's another point in their favor.

 

[Baemono]

Here's how I would currently rank the major publishers for Switch 2, anyone agree/disagree?

A - Square Enix, Koei Tecmo, Capcom
B - Sega, Ubisoft, Activision
C - Bethesda, Konami
D - EA, Take Two, Namco Bandai, Microsoft
E - Atlus

Pretty much the same but Bethesda at B, and Sega at C or even D, they're the only japanese 3rd party publisher to skip new releases for Switch. Late P3 Reload port, late Metaphor port, P4 remake and P6 not even announced on the console so probably late ports as well, took them years to put Yakuza on it. And it took them months to put a Switch 2 version of Sonic Crossworlds.

So, so far only one day and date release, which is Kiwami 3.

EA did a better job supporting the console than Sega.

 

[Gambit2483]

What logic. Just pointing out what they're getting. It's not like it's a big commitment from 3rd parties.

Yea, and what's the problem? You make it sound like them getting 3rd party support in the form of ports is a problem somehow...but ok, you're just pointing it out...

 

[Ultralow35]

Let's be honest All they need and they have it is COD,Madden and NBA2k fortnight and Nintendo games that will cover about 99% of gamers they good to go just like XBOX and PlayStation

 

[DeafTourette]

Pretty much the same but Bethesda at B, and Sega at C or even D, they're the only japanese 3rd party publisher to skip new releases for Switch. Late P3 Reload port, late Metaphor port, P4 remake and P6 not even announced on the console so probably late ports as well, took them years to put Yakuza on it. And it took them months to put a Switch 2 version of Sonic Crossworlds.

So, so far only one day and date release, which is Kiwami 3.

EA did a better job supporting the console than Sega.

You forgot Shenmue and VF

 

[FireFly]

XSS will die soon though. Leaving Switch 2 users with obsolete hardware once again, pretty early on, once again. From there, you will get 10 years on obsolete hardware with low resolutions and fps, once again.

The only way it can realistically die is if developers stop releasing Series X versions of games. And if Xbox isn't abandoned by publishers, then we would expect to see support well into the next generation, given the expected reliance on cross-platform play.

 

[Skeptical]

I'm not doing list battles though. Somebody made it out like hitman is all that's missing for third party publisher support. I just said that's not really true and that third party publisher support is still fairly anaemic on it. That's not warring just because you disagree.

My apologies if I misinterpreted your intent. There definitely were some other questionable misses during this not-E3. Besides Hitman and Persona, Ace Combat was probably the biggest question mark. But Namco's support for Nintendo has always been questionable.

The 3rd party support is mostly games already made. It's not like they are doing a lot here.

By my count, there were 9 "major" third party games announced for the Switch 2 this not-E3 that are not yet released: Veronica, Onimusha, FF7-3, KH4, Wo Long 2, Tomb Raider, Rayman, Alien, Lords of the Fallen 2. We can quibble on if that is "a lot" or not, but the reality is that throughout the entire Switch's life that number would be 0-2. And Nintendo is infamously secretive and limited in who they gave devkits to before launch. The trend is positive. Will it be "only" 9 games next year? Who knows?

A lot (I know cause I bought a lot of them). By memory (so very selective):
- Wolfenstein II
- Doom 2016
- Wolfenstein Youngblood
- Doom Eternal
- The Witcher 3
- The Outer Worlds
- No Man's Sky
- Spyro remake trilogy
- Crash remake trilogy
- Crash 4
- CTR
- Tony Hawk 1+2
- Tony Hawk 3+4
- It Takes Two
- Hogwarts Legacy
- Mortal Kombat 11
- Mortal Kombat 1 (this one was even more impossible as it was a current-gen only game)
- LEGO Skywalker Saga
- Ark Survivor Evolved
- Sniper Elite 4
- Batman Arkham Knight
- Ace Combat 7
- Nier: Automata
- Hellblade
- Bright Memory (also only PS5/Series S/X game so even more impossible)
- Kingdom Come Delivrance

Some of those I discounted as not being AAA (like the Activision PS1 remakes), but that is a bigger list than I thought. I think there are some online games that might also apply like Apex Legends. So ok, maybe Switch 2 hasn't quite reached it yet. But it's definitely getting there. (And I bought Spyro and Nier, as well as played Witcher via Gamefly. Still need to get AC7 though)

 

[Nvzman]

XSS will die soon though. Leaving Switch 2 users with obsolete hardware once again, pretty early on, once again. From there, you will get 10 years on obsolete hardware with low resolutions and fps, once again.

Ill be bluntly honest, I dont anticipate the PS6 handheld being any more powerful than a Series S. If that's the case, expect the Switch 2 to have much longer legs than anticipated.

 

[blacktout]

I'm honestly curious how many of the games mentioned in this thread have since been announced for (or even released on) Switch 2.

OK, since there's obviously something deeply wrong with me, I decided to go back through the thread and figure this out.

Here's a list of every (I think) game mentioned in this thread as proof that the Switch 2 would not get third party support that has since been announced or released for the console:

Resident Evil Requiem
Resident Evil Village
Monster Hunter Wilds
Digimon Story: Time Stranger
Onimusha: Way of the Sword
007 First Light*
Call of Duty
Assassins Creed Shadows
Persona 3 Reload
Metaphor: ReFantazio
Space Marine 2
Oblivion Remastered

* - This one is particularly funny, because it had already been announced for Switch 2 at the time.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

I said that right when they started showcasing games for Switch 2. It's too under-powered, it's like developing for the Xbox Series S all over again. No one has time for that.

These companies have all the time in the world to make money on the top platform.

 

[Joe Cool]

Meanwhile I scrolled through Nintendo's YouTube channel and was surprised at how many third party games, old and new, are coming to Switch 2 so perhaps your perception is off or this is just an attention topic...