Pallas
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No doubt they dropped the ball on Redfall and so did Arkane, I can only hope that the game gets better in time with patches.
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[Rumour] Sony has canceled an unannounced sci-fi shooter at Final Strike Games. The game was in development for 3 years. [...]
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Roman Empire
Member
3 years in development means a lot for Sony cost-wise. Project shouldn't be up to their standards if they decide to cut it short, maybe they don't want to risk another The Order 1886.
Calverz
Gold Member
There’s always one….
ChorizoPicozo
Member
why?
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Sony is just being proactive cancelling this live service game before it flops.
And so did Killzone and now Destiny is being self sabotaged, what a cursed circle
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
When a new Live Service game gets canceled, we all suffer. SP gamers have to eat a @#$% sandwich too.
ReBurn
Gold Member
Didn't even take one page to try to make this thread about Microsoft. Console wars are a full time job.
Dr_Ifto
Member
Since I do not know how the game was, I cannot pass judgement if this was a good call or not. One could extrapolate that with Sony's latest GaaS push, this probably means the game was in a bad state too far along the process, and could not be course corrected. Not to bring Redfall into the conversation, but they probably saw similar issues as that game, and said they could not have the same public outcry and just canned the game.
supernova8
Banned
Imagine Jim Ryan going into the Ninja Theory office, tipping Tameem's coffee onto the floor and chucking a grenade into the staff kitchen.
"OK boys and girls, no more fucking trips to Iceland. Get your arses in gear or GET THE FUCK OUT!"
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StealthGoblin
Banned
Given Deviation have survived multiple milestone reviews and financial year consolidations, I think it’s reasonable that Sony are very impressed with their progress.
June acquisition ahoy.
June acquisition ahoy.
balls of snow
Member
We might get Hellblade 2 sooner and that abomination Bleeding Edge could have been aborted for the benefit of mankind.
Thirty7ven
Banned
We didn’t even knew anything about this so it was a highly speculative bet from Sony that didn’t pay out clearly.
Wildebeest
Member
Redfall gottem all spooked.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
If true, hope to see some leaks down the road.
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IFireflyl
Gold Member
Only a console warrior would take that comment as console warring. Maybe you should look at my other posts in this same thread. Maybe this will help:
Depends on how big the team is. Anyone know how big they were?
An office move with a build out like that takes 12-18 months. A lot can happen in that time and the lease would be signed already.
If they started a new game half the staff would be sat around doing nothing during preproduction anyway. They're not closing the studio, just going lean for a year or two until they have a project that can justify them doubling in size again.
R6Rider
Gold Member
I still have dreams of that Battlefront 3 gameplay footage.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
You also have to wonder how badly Covid restrictions impeded dev for, well, if it was greenlit early 2020, over half that period.
crackajack
Member
Must have been sort of terrible (or just very redundant with some other project) to stop it after 3 years. They thought to see something at first, but it never materialised to something they wanted to continue to support.
Would be interesting what 3 years actually mean though. 2 years concept phase and now after one year of creating some levels, the alpha built just sucked. Or full 3 years with a full team and continous progress or missed milestones and many promises broken.
Fortnite started rather different before it finally found its form, with some iirc rather unimpressive previews and trailers. If it would have been axed 3 years in development, we would never had Fortnite as it is today. Which I would not care for anyway, since I missed so far all BR GaaS whatever.
Sleeping Dogs has found some fans but no idea if the publisher swap made anyone happy after all.
DNF felt even after all those years and dev changes like a rushed job.
Maybe with some new vision and some changes they could have turned it around and make something big, maybe it would never have been what they think they want and need in the line up. Now we never really know, at least it was not announced at all, so no one except the very people involved know anything.
These GaaS games seem very much based on luck if you just hit the nerve of the people with some small new twist mostly in ever evolving shooter genres.
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StueyDuck
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R6Rider
Gold Member
Bernardougf
Gold Member
Pffff should have keep the bastard and launched on psplus and for 70 dollars
. Phil and his fans said it is the way !
. Phil and his fans said it is the way !
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AJUMP23
Member
If there is no funding for people, you cannot afford to pay them on overhead.
You dont start a game in full production, I guess they were very early in full production, probably one year into smoothly ramping up and right about to hire/contract out like mad for the full production 2-3 year push. Once it goes into full production and has 300+ people on it across full-time and contractors, you are burning cash - a single year of that will eclipse all pre & early production costs. They would have been at a shit or get off the pot moment with funding.
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Sony be like: "Match our quality and standards or GTFO!"
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
GHG
Gold Member
Saved us having to deal with the "6/10 games are great crowd".
He's done us a favour.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
343?
There’s always one….
*looks up*
I know, right? Amazingly selective.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
This is exactly what Phil shouldve done with Redfall when bought Zenimax in 2020. Just cancel the fucking thing if you dont have any faith in it.
Phil literally said that we dont think the game works so we just patched up the bugs that we could and ship it. Sorry but if you didnt believe in the game connecting with players then it shouldve been cancelled years ago.
Phil literally said that we dont think the game works so we just patched up the bugs that we could and ship it. Sorry but if you didnt believe in the game connecting with players then it shouldve been cancelled years ago.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
one gaaaaas down?
GHG
Gold Member
"It's fun with friends, have you actually played it?"
Wooxsvan
Member
ya Sony is getting better and better at only releasing the best stuff
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
11 to go.
GHG
Gold Member
Daneel Elijah
Gold Member
Worse games than Redfall have been fixed. I think that Team bondi game LA Noire had a worse dev story than Redfall, and the end game was not that bad in comparison. I would have prefered for the game to be cancelled than to ship in this state. But this is in hindsight. Cut it out, or send the people that can fix it, like Rockstar did. Microsoft choose to not do either of those, and just let them do what they can. This is the problem. Not being decisive enough. For this game, I think that Sony will probably just make them redo it from the ground up or ask them to help another of their studios.
