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RUMOR: AMD Zen 3 Based Next-Gen Ryzen 4000 ‘Vermeer’ Desktop CPUs To Utilize TSMC’s 5nm Process Node, Launching at CES 2021

thelastword

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Digitimes has just dropped a major bomb on AMD's next-generation Zen 3 core architecture which is reportedly dropping TSMC's 7nm EUV process in favor of its 5nm node to power upcoming Ryzen 4000 Desktop CPUs, codenamed Vermeer.

AMD Ryzen 4000 'Vermeer' Zen 3 Based Desktop CPUs To Utilize TSMC's 5nm+ Process Node, Launching at CES 2021

According to the report which has been shared by Chia (Retired Engineer) at Twitter, it looks like AMD will be the lead customer for TSMC's next-generation 5nm+ process node. TSMC had recently entered its 5nm era in April of 2020 and is reportedly commencing mass production in the fourth quarter of 2020.

Earlier, it was being expected that AMD would replace its Zen 2 lineup featuring TSMC's 7nm node with Zen 3 chips based on the more advanced 7nm EUV node from TSMC. However, it seems like AMD is going all steam ahead, bypassing the 7nm process node in favor if TSMC's bleeding-edge 5nm+ process which is going to deliver an incremental performance uplift over the current generation of processors.

As per the report, it is stated that AMD is going to be the first customer to adopt TSMC's 5nm+ node in its next-generation Zen 3 line of processors. The Zen 3 CPUs are expected to be announced in late Q3 (September/October) however, considering that mass production commences the very next quarter, actual availability and launch will take place in 2021. CES 2021 is being pointed out as one of the launch platforms for AMD to unveil its next-generation Ryzen 4000 'Vermeer' Desktop CPUs.

Surprisingly, the report only mentions Ryzen 4000 Desktop CPUs to utilize the 5nm+ process node. The underlying Zen 3 architecture is already confirmed to power AMD's next-generation Milan line of EPYC CPUs this year however, they are not mentioned here. It is likely that AMD could delay its first server shipments to 2021 based once again on the fact that mass production commences for 5nm+ later this year. AMD would have to deliver each chip they could manufacturer to several HPC contracts that they have signed for next-gen EPYC CPUs while simultaneously building up inventory for consumers (Ryzen 4000 CPUs).


It looks like AMD not only tapped in TSMC's 5nm+ node for its Ryzen 4000 CPUs but also a highly enhanced version of it. Previously, it was reported that it was going to be Zen 4 based CPUs to feature an enhanced 5nm+ node from TSMC but as per this report, even Zen 3 CPUs will get the exclusive version. WikiChip mentions the roadmap of TSMC's process node and how they stack up to their predecessors:


TSMC 7nm (N7P)


  • +7% Better Performance at same power versus N7
  • 10% power savings at the same performance versus N7
TSMC 7nm (N7+)


  • +10% Better Performance at same power versus N7
  • 15% power savings at the same performance versus N7
TSMC 5nm (N5)


  • +15% Better Performance at same power versus N7
  • 30% power savings at the same performance versus N7
TSMC 5nm (N5P)


  • +7% Better Performance at same power versus N5
  • 15% power savings at the same performance versus N5
The move to 5nm+ also makes things clear as to why we are seeing the launch of a Zen 2 refresh family (Ryzen 3000 Matisse Refresh) during mid of 2020. This refreshed lineup is to offer some thing to the consumer market until the next-generation launches. Nevertheless, having 5nm+ CPUs as early as 2021 would give a major blow to Intel who will still be relying on the 10nm process for the vast majority of its 2021 lineup.

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-4000-zen-3-vermeer-desktop-cpus-tsmc-5nm-process-node-rumor/
 

thelastword

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Yes i knew something was fishy when AMD is refreshing zen2 this late. An obvious delay to 2021 for zen3
Yes my thoughts exactly, but if an improved 7nm is enough to beat the new Intel Desktop chips this year, it makes sense to push Zen 4000 even further on 5nm+......
 
Hmmm....sounds like it's gonna be a great chip lineup.

I have been waiting to decide what CPU to upgrade to. Maybe I will grab a zen2 refresh when they hit in July and then just upgrade to Zen 3 whenever they end up launching. Have a x570 mobo ready to rock
 

Armorian

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Hmmm....sounds like it's gonna be a great chip lineup.

I have been waiting to decide what CPU to upgrade to. Maybe I will grab a zen2 refresh when they hit in July and then just upgrade to Zen 3 whenever they end up launching. Have a x570 mobo ready to rock

Get 3600 or 3600XT (when launches) for it, you can sail on it for months before switching to high core count Z3 part. You have MB so why not use it? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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