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Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart - PC Version - AMD GPUs Won't Have Ray Tracing at Launch
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mansoor1980
Gold Member
nvidia money hat , right neogaf?
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Crispy Gamer
Member
Make it make sense
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Console which ran the game with RT on an AMD SoC.
PC version with AMD GPUs cannot do the same functionality.
What's so hard to figure out
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Silver Wattle
Gold Member
You have every option under the fucking sun, but exclude RT for a whole userbase? At least have one fucking PC running alternative hardware nixxes FFS.
Tarnpanzer
Member
Unknown Soldier
Member
AMD spent too much money paying to block DLSS support in other games and didn't have enough left over to pay for developers to help Insomniac with RT support on this
squarealex
Member
"competition is good"
Buggy Loop
Member
How do you bypass DXR from one vendor to the other? You make ray tracing calls via API, they all use the same functions.
Tarnpanzer
Member
Isn´t the PS5 GPU from AMD?
PS5-version has RT, but PC on AMD-GPU not? I really don´t get it...
PS5-version has RT, but PC on AMD-GPU not? I really don´t get it...
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Crispy Gamer
Member
Ohhkk...Good job explaining the thread now explain how amd shat the bed hence the "make it make sense"Console which ran the game with RT on an AMD SoC.
PC version with AMD GPUs cannot do the same functionality.
What's so hard to figure out
is it a bug? Or are they just "investigating"
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Ohhkk...Good job explaining the thread now explain how amd shat the bed hence the "make it make sense"
Mister Wolf
Member
Not like they can do it well anyway.
Kataploom
Gold Member
Ironic comment when this is probably they taking Nvidia's money too.
But as nobody (including myself) knows what's going on, we shouldn't set rumors as facts.
BTW I never intended to play using RT anyway so I'll probably pick it anyway.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
mansoor1980
Gold Member
Buggy Loop
Member
Yea but why make another branch outside of DXR just for AMD? It's all hardware agnostic with the API.
It's really puzzling.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Would be interesting to see Sony switch to an ARM/Nvidia SoC for the PS6. The server-class Grace chips are crazy powerful, a customized cut down version of that would be insanely good for a game consolesony be like
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
PC has RT shadows and AO too. Probably the performance for shadows + AO + reflections is currently very poor on AMD cards.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
LMAO. Nixxes had a good run. 1 ray of sunshine in a dogshit PC industry and they do this.
Eotheod
Member
They could easily offer it as an optional setting if it's a performance issue. It is assumed that it actually is a setting, RT shadows, hen you enable RT itself.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
AMD can’t into raytracing
winjer
Gold Member
Remember that a studio doesn't program directly to a GPU. They program RT to the DXR API. And AMD GPUs are compatible with DXR.
Even CP 2077 with Path Tracing runs on RDNA2 and 3. Slower than nvidia, but it works.
No other game before had RT blocked on AMD hardware. There is something very fishy going on here.
They included this last week when they were talking features:
Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart PC specs and new features revealed
Learn what tools of the trade the Lombax is bringing to the world of PC gaming.
blog.playstation.com
DaGwaphics
Member
This literally doesn't make sense, AMD and Nvidia GPUs share the same APIs for RT. Even if the implementation is heavy and won't run well on AMD cards, it should still work. 
Beyond weird.
Beyond weird.
Holammer
Member
Journalists get review copies weeks ahead of release. It's not "think fast chucklenuts!".They included this last week when they were talking features:
Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart PC specs and new features revealed
Learn what tools of the trade the Lombax is bringing to the world of PC gaming.
Publishers dragging their feet with sending review codes is a common warning sign for a troubled game that's about to bomb.
Unknown Soldier
Member
AMD pricing is intentionally so close to Nvidia these days that you have to be literally stupid to choose the AMD card over the Nvidia card. I'm just saying.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Doesn’t make sense, but as long as they figure out whatever they have to figure out. Ray tracing isn’t that important.
Buggy Loop
Member
RT + upscalers + GPU decompression maybe stalled the pipeline or AMD’s compiler is freaking out?
I think it’s on AMD’s side for the problem. Shit happens.
Their compiler did something weird too with Portal RTX, it made 99ms UBERshaders for no reasons, it’s shit performance at launch had nothing to with with the path tracing API calls.
I think it’s on AMD’s side for the problem. Shit happens.
Their compiler did something weird too with Portal RTX, it made 99ms UBERshaders for no reasons, it’s shit performance at launch had nothing to with with the path tracing API calls.
asdasdasdbb
Member
Maybe not DF but reviewers in general.
Or AMD promised an updated driver but didn't deliver.
Sleepwalker
Member
But the free starfield!
//DEVIL//
Member
got it with my 7800x3d.
Honestly, AMD has to get their shit together when it comes to GPU. either lower the price by alotttttt or come up with something competitive to DLSS3 or DLSS2 that is way better than FSR2.
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Why not a super Vita? A Chinese company used the powervr tech to make an equivalent high-end GPU. It's called mtt s80.
ResilientBanana
Member
Doesn't PS5 have a custom RT chip? not only that but AMD doesn't know shit about RT.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
AMD's discrete GPU ray tracing isn't the same as the PS5 hardware, despite similarities. Sony sounds like they'd rather delay that feature than release it half baked.
Buggy Loop
Member
Pretty sure it is. It's the whole patent of RDNA 2 how the pipeline works with RT. Receipts on your claims?
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Pretty sure it is. It's the whole patent of RDNA 2 how the pipeline works with RT. Receipts on your claims?
One's a PS5 and the other's a PC.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I'm rooting for AMD to continue making strides but this seems weird. I can't say it's the devs or the HW but the power should at least brute force the baseline RT in the PS5 version at the very least on a 7800+ GPU.