SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Spoiler: Every company’s subscription/online paywall will see price increases.
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Phil Spencer "Game Pass price increase is inevitable in the Future"
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JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
$20 a month/ $240 a year is actually not a good value.
I wouldn't even pay that if Sony put out their best games on Plus for that price.
When my sub ends, I won't renew.
I wouldn't even pay that if Sony put out their best games on Plus for that price.
When my sub ends, I won't renew.
balls of snow
Member
Unlike Netflix or Disney +, If ms increase the price where I deemed is greedy territory, I just ala carte my games as per usual.
Del_X
Member
They’re gonna need a whole lotta bangers to justify $300 a year. Only way is if every Actvision-Blizzard title is day and date and they’re getting their 1 game per quarter out from internal studios.
Pop
Member
Well its only been 6 yrs for GP and has doubled already. By next years end another $5 increase or so
xrnzaaas
Member
You already have a shitload of ads in the Xbox's dashboard (which don't go away for GPU subs). Even more in the latest version... pretty much only the top row of tiles isn't an ad.
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Slicker than your average
Banned
And once they own the entire Industry including Nintendo. They'll just crank it up way more than inflation.
Also Phil's flip flop lies.
Also Phil's flip flop lies.
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Pedro Motta
Member
I feel like we're back in the 90's, renting games at a local Blockbuster. Shit died for a reason. Fucking plague/cancer, whatever you want to call it.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Both Sony and Microsoft were looking into that for their ftp games.
Microsoft And Sony Are Looking At Ads On Free To Play Video Game
It is reported later this year that Microsoft and Sony will start to have ads on some free-to-play video games. This will provide marketers with the opportunity to target a hard to reach demographic.
www.forbes.com
Generic
Member
I wish my income had inflation too.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
1 "good" AAA game and that is very little savings.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Between Rewards and Gold/Core conversion, getting GPU is extremely lite on the ol' wallet. And with the amount of games, and day 1 (both first and third party) content, it's almost essential in the xbox ecosystem IMO.
demigod
Member
The price of a haircut used to be $12 ten years ago.
The same exact place still charges me $12.
What now?
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Rocco Schiavone
Member
ColtEastwood and other MS fanboys:Pre-acquisition-approval Phil:
Post-acquisition-approval Phil:
What's wrong about that? He wasn't lying he just changed his opinion.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
The question that triggered the possible price increase was
――I think Xbox Game Pass is a very good subscription service overall, but as one of the users, I'm afraid of price increases. Is future price increases unavoidable or not? What are your thoughts on fees?
Phil Spencer: Thank you for saying that. First, we always want to give you choices about how to build your library. You can subscribe to Game Pass to play or purchase games. With millions of users currently subscribing to Xbox Game Pass and many of them using it with satisfaction, I think that although it is a major premise to provide more value than that, it is inevitable that the price will increase in the future. Recently, we raised the price once, but it was a decision after careful consideration. Even if the price is raised, we believe that it is important to provide services that are recognized as having sufficient value.
So yes likely sometime in the future the price will increase and people want to run with it like its happening tomorrow (which hell it might)
Just tired of some narratives
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
You can bet if the price increases ~3 years later, people will still post pictures of his "won't increase because of Activision" quote out of context and use it as a gotcha.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I would like to see any CEO of any company get asked that same question how it was asked and see their answer
I doubt any of them would answer "Oh our price is forever now" but people will war
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
New interview in Japanese
(FYI) Phil was asked if there would be a Game Pass price increase in the future
Phil Spencer: "Although the main premise is to provide more value, the price is I think it is inevitable that it will rise in the future. We recently raised our prices once, but the decision was made after careful consideration. We believe it is important to provide services that are recognized as being of sufficient value even if prices are increased."
Microsoft Gaming CEO フィル・スペンサー氏インタビュー 「Forza」はベストなレースゲーム。今後も引き続き日本タイトルの創出に尽力
Xboxは昨年に引き続き東京ゲームショウに合わせて「Xbox Digital Broadcast」を配信した。XboxのボスであるMicrosoft Gaming CEOのフィル・スペンサー氏も来日し、Xboxコミュニティやパブリッシングパートナーと相次いで面会。一般公開日初日の23日には会場にも直接足を運び、日本のゲームファンとの交流を愉しんだ。ビジネスデイではなく、わざわざ一般公開日に訪れるのは、スペンサー氏がゲームファンと直接触れ合いたいからで、トラブルがないように対応するスタッフは大変だろうが、コミュニティを最も重視するスペンサー氏らしいこだわりだ。game.watch.impress.co.jp
“Game Pass is totally sustainable, let us just increase the price over and over and over…”…
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Better make sure its incredible with steady amazing releases or it ain't gonna fly, Phil!
ManaByte
Gold Member
Moses85
Member
New interview in Japanese
(FYI) Phil was asked if there would be a Game Pass price increase in the future
Phil Spencer: "Although the main premise is to provide more value, the price is I think it is inevitable that it will rise in the future. We recently raised our prices once, but the decision was made after careful consideration. We believe it is important to provide services that are recognized as being of sufficient value even if prices are increased."
Microsoft Gaming CEO フィル・スペンサー氏インタビュー 「Forza」はベストなレースゲーム。今後も引き続き日本タイトルの創出に尽力
Xboxは昨年に引き続き東京ゲームショウに合わせて「Xbox Digital Broadcast」を配信した。XboxのボスであるMicrosoft Gaming CEOのフィル・スペンサー氏も来日し、Xboxコミュニティやパブリッシングパートナーと相次いで面会。一般公開日初日の23日には会場にも直接足を運び、日本のゲームファンとの交流を愉しんだ。ビジネスデイではなく、わざわざ一般公開日に訪れるのは、スペンサー氏がゲームファンと直接触れ合いたいからで、トラブルがないように対応するスタッフは大変だろうが、コミュニティを最も重視するスペンサー氏らしいこだわりだ。game.watch.impress.co.jp
Sleepwalker
Member
It will eventually cost 400+ a year but we will still get posts about how its the same as a few drinks or eating out per week.
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MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Oh no!
In other news, milk price increase is inevitable in the future.
The horror!
In other news, milk price increase is inevitable in the future.
The horror!
Killjoy-NL
Member
Luckily for the Xbox fans, MS is out to buy as much as possible in the industry so they can raise the prices even more.
Who doesn't want to pay for all that value?
Who doesn't want to pay for all that value?
Gambit2483
Member
Sony offered nothing and went up 30%...
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Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Reality check time:
By setting up GamePass as the core focus of their business what happens if subs stagnate- or worse, fall? What's the path back to profitability?
Pivot back to conventional physical/digital sales and betray the promise of every first-party title being day#1 on GamePass?
Cut-back hard on expenditure for content?
Increase sub prices, or maybe add extra monetization like ad-support?
The way I see it, if this little corporate experiment fails... there is no easy way back. And it seems to me that the cold, hard, fact of the matter is that its already well into the stagnation phase.
My prediction is that if MS don't see a sharp upturn in fortunes within the window of all their newly acquired studios delivering their first projects (entirely under the MGS banner), the blood-letting will begin.
By setting up GamePass as the core focus of their business what happens if subs stagnate- or worse, fall? What's the path back to profitability?
Pivot back to conventional physical/digital sales and betray the promise of every first-party title being day#1 on GamePass?
Cut-back hard on expenditure for content?
Increase sub prices, or maybe add extra monetization like ad-support?
The way I see it, if this little corporate experiment fails... there is no easy way back. And it seems to me that the cold, hard, fact of the matter is that its already well into the stagnation phase.
My prediction is that if MS don't see a sharp upturn in fortunes within the window of all their newly acquired studios delivering their first projects (entirely under the MGS banner), the blood-letting will begin.
CuNi
Member
I wonder if they'll add tiers to GP, with Activision joining Microsoft (most likely) soonish.
Especially with how popular COD is, I wouldn't mind if that game were to be locked behind the "premium" GP tier for like 20€ and the rest or huge majority be in the current GP with a little bump up to 13€.
I'm already paying 10€ a month and 13€ would totally be okay for the amount of games one gets to indulge in.
Especially with how popular COD is, I wouldn't mind if that game were to be locked behind the "premium" GP tier for like 20€ and the rest or huge majority be in the current GP with a little bump up to 13€.
I'm already paying 10€ a month and 13€ would totally be okay for the amount of games one gets to indulge in.
darrylgorn
Member
Which is fine since no one really uses it anyway.
Majima Everywhere System
Member
Hey, big Xbox fan here. Higher price game pass and discless means I'm out. If I subscribe for a month here or there, I'm playing on their time and not mine. Bad deal.
I am suspicious of buying a digital or physical game on Xbox without a guarantee from MS this library will be transferred to PC when they fail and bail.
It's time to build confidence in Xbox, it looks dire.
I am suspicious of buying a digital or physical game on Xbox without a guarantee from MS this library will be transferred to PC when they fail and bail.
It's time to build confidence in Xbox, it looks dire.
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Iced Arcade
Member
I still can see subscriptions inside of subscriptions like Amazon does 
Main sub gets you Xbox game studios and for an additional fee you can get.
- Activision channel
- Bethesda channel
All these companies ruin good things eventually.
Main sub gets you Xbox game studios and for an additional fee you can get.
- Activision channel
- Bethesda channel
All these companies ruin good things eventually.
Senua
Member
Wet is water
Skifi28
Member
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
At 56 I have a decent widows peak going on so weekly I just have it buzzed on the lowest settingI wish I still needed haircuts.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
???
How does a video game subscription service work with ads? You accept a quest in Starfield and the game pauses mid-step and an ad plays, like you’re watching a TV show? That’s never going to happen.
docchicken
Member
Microsoft hints at letting players watch ads for “timed slices of games”
Exec says they're "experimenting" with models beyond Game Pass subscriptions.
arstechnica.com