Windom Earle
Member
It's probably people excited to buy a more "future proof" card now instead of being forced to go 3080>3080ti later. Talking from a memory perspective of course.
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nemiroff
Gold Member
Yeah feelings really does have value even if they are often unsubstantiated. And I'm not being sarcastic either. I mean, how could we ever have a good night of sleep if we had to worry about the size of our VRAM.
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this is why i was considering a 3090. As i game at 1440p with no plans to upgrade to 4k for a while, was considered getting the 3090 as the more future proof option. In the end i just couldn't justify the cost and managed to snag a EVGA 3080 at MSRP.
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GaviotaGrande
Banned
Nobody who owns 3080 will update to 3080Ti. By the time 10GB VRAM is an issue, 4080Ti will be out.
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Soulblighter31
Banned
This video card futureproofing is a bunch of nonsense. Videocards are dying out as soon as you bought them. Each game that comes out is pushing just a little bit harder and harder on them. Getting a card "for the future" is some of the biggest nonsense i can think off. Look at 1080Ti how far it dropped in benchmarks, what a lower midrange card its become in the years since it came out. Its 11 gigs of vram completely useless because the card is dying due to lack of power.
You get a card to play games right now. If it can play games right now, its gonna play games 2 years from now just fine, then you can get whats new then.
Agreed, providing you are pushing both resolution and framerate. If not however, cards can last a long time.
Patrick S.
Banned
I just think it's cool to have a higher performance card. It's not about epeen, it's about wanting cooler stuff
If I'm being 100% honest, it's because I'm unhappy with the performance in Cyberpunk. I know it's dumb, because the GPU isn't at 100% usage or anything. I'm probably much better off saving for a better CPU, because I think my i7 6700k is what's holding the game back. Cyberpunk is becoming my all time favourite game, and I want to play it with buttery smooth performance goddammit
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Kenpachii
Member
Until that future is tommorow. Specially when u realize we are experiencing a generation shift right now.
The 1080ti example makes no sense because of it.
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regawdless
Banned
The future is now, guys.
Doesn't make sense but sounds cool.
Doesn't make sense but sounds cool.
Kenpachii
Member
Hope u got a beast of a CPU be ready for sub 20 fps.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
For real? Is it as bad as microsoft flight sim 2020 ?
i use the 3700x
Kenpachii
Member
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Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Fuck that thanks for the heads up. Saved me a tenner thanks.
Windom Earle
Member
That's pure speculation. But following your logic, every 3080 owner should only keep the card for 2 years?
Also reminder: "There is no need for more than 2GB of VRAM" at the start of last gen.
I certainly hope my 3080 will be enough for a long time and considering I am not 4k, it most likely will. But let's not pretend that 10GB of VRAM is great.
GaviotaGrande
Banned
2 years is a long ass time in PC hardware space. If I can play the newest games with close to maximum graphical fidelity for 2 years, that's a big win.
I'm not saying that 10GB VRAM will not become insufficient. I'm saying that before that happens next generation of GPUs will be out.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
No chance the penultimate GPU of this generation has “not enough” VRAM during this cycle. If it becomes an issue, the 40xx will be out.
Useless worrying. You really think every Nvidia GPU except the 3090 will be obsolete soon? Jeez.
Useless worrying. You really think every Nvidia GPU except the 3090 will be obsolete soon? Jeez.
Windom Earle
Member
Who is worried here outside butt-hurt posters getting extremely defensive over the 3080ti?
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
This whole thread consists of that useless fear mongering every four pages, minimum.
BluRayHiDef
Banned
You're in denial, broski. You know that you sub-3090 chumps messed up big time!
Just joking.
kittoo
Cretinously credulous
Maybe someone can help me out with issues I am having with my 3080. The display is an LG OLED C9.
I keep getting random loss of signal/black screens. It mostly happens in games but happens otherwise also sometimes. Only a hard reboot gets the display back.
I have tried disabling g-sync , undervolting the card, updating drivers, using maximum performance mode etc. Didn't help. Happens more in some games (such as gears 5) and less in others (such as Ass creed Valhalla).
Any help would be very appreciated.
I keep getting random loss of signal/black screens. It mostly happens in games but happens otherwise also sometimes. Only a hard reboot gets the display back.
I have tried disabling g-sync , undervolting the card, updating drivers, using maximum performance mode etc. Didn't help. Happens more in some games (such as gears 5) and less in others (such as Ass creed Valhalla).
Any help would be very appreciated.
Buggy Loop
Member
By the time 10GB even becomes a problem, you’ll either be rasterization limited (see Cyberpunk), or we’ll have moved to DirectStorage for optimizing these huge IO data streams. Maybe a few dummy devs will brute force their way because they make shit PC ports, but console IO management on PS5 and Xbox series S|X should make this pretty much a standard in upcoming ports.
VRAM becomes almost a buffer, only holding what’s immediately necessary and not idling assets like we do now.
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regawdless
Banned
Raytraced reflections compared, native 1440p vs DLSS quality.
That's such a huge difference, some might say I guess?
That's such a huge difference, some might say I guess?
TyphoonStruggle
Member
That’s cause the industry is pretty shit tbhI only fear there aren't any good games to play soon after Cyberpunk for my 3080
Lots of development time is wasted in providing stale “cinematic” games, treadmill / carrot stick systems, micro transactions, or communities that ignore shit heads.
Cinematic games are boring and formulaic (see any Sony AAA)
Carrot stick systems benefit the low-skill no-lifers (see World of Warcraft)
Micro transactions are for cucks
Communities that ignore shitheads can turn a perfect game into a waste of time (see DOTA 2)
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Rickyiez
Member
You're perfectly right about Dota 2 , I've been playing it on and off for years but sometimes dealing with some of toxicity is just too much .
I'm just waiting for more awesome games to utilize this card like the first UE5 game , RE8 , FF16 or Elden Ring . But they will not be anytime soon sigh
What is your PSU ? And also are you using two separate PCIE cables instead of daisy chaining it ?
kiphalfton
Member
Figured I would be fine with a RTX 3080, since I had a 1440P 144HZ monitor... but decided to get an Alienware AW3420DW monitor and sell my old monitor. So looks like performance is back to sub-100 FPS in all games.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
After having owned an RTX 3080, it seems like a fool's game to expect wonders from a hypothetical additional 10GB of VRAM. The thing already can't run some current games maxed out at 4K60 and it's almost never because of VRAM limitations. 20GB VRAM or not, I don't think it's reasonable to expect to run new games three or four years from now maxed out at 4K and get 60 fps or higher.
Basically, I don't think the 10GB VRAM is ever going to be a legitimate bottleneck for this card outside of some very edge scenarios.
Unknown Soldier
Member
I've had my 1080 Ti since it originally launched, almost 4 years ago now, and it has served me exceptionally well those many years. Smart people know that buying more video card than you need now will tend to work out later on in terms of longevity. If you only buy what is barely good enough now, in a few years you'll be forced to upgrade whether you like it or not even if you are otherwise fine with what you have. I was able to skip the entire Turing generation because my 1080 Ti was just fine during those years. If my 3090 ends up also lasting as long as my 1080 Ti did, I'll be quite happy indeed with what I got for the money I paid.
Dirk Benedict
Gold Member
Enjoying The Bat Team, bro. Keep it good.
kittoo
Cretinously credulous
PSU is cooler master 750W brand new.
I did wonder if it was a PSU issue. But then why would the black screen happen when not gaming also (although that's very rare and often happens when I have closed a game recently).
The card requires 3 8-pin power connectors though, if that helps.
What's daisy chaining?
longdi
Banned
If 3080Ti is $899-999 with 20GB, why not? It will probably runs as fast as 3090 with a more mature Samsung 8nm, higher more consistent boost clocks.
Nvidia can get crazy competitive if they wants it.
longdi
Banned
3dcenter’s final compilation, now including the 6900 XT as being normalized (100%)
From Reddit :
Launch-Analyse AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT | 3DCenter.org
Dienstag, 15. Dezember 2020 / von Leonidas Mit der Radeon RX 6900 XT bringt AMD das Topmodell der RDNA2-Generation und gleichzeitig den letzten bedeutenden Hardwarelaunch des Jahres 2020 an den Start. Anläßlich der offiziellenm.3dcenter.org
3080 is king relative to it's price and aggregation of results overall (considering this is just rasterization, nor VR, nor RT, not DLSS, not NVENC..)
Wow just wow, Thats why im nibbling Nvidia stocks every dips. Still performance leadership, Crypto revival, ARM is coming. Jensung is da man!
I always felt rDNA2 is $50 too expensive, and with AIB cards priced much higher, no reasons to get 68/6900 yet.
Unless Amd new drivers does the 'fine wine' performance uplifts. Idk.
TyphoonStruggle
Member
The Radeon 6000 series are indeed $50 too expensive. They would be very competitive.Wow just wow, Thats why im nibbling Nvidia stocks every dips. Still performance leadership, Crypto revival, ARM is coming. Jensung is da man!
I always felt rDNA2 is $50 too expensive, and with AIB cards priced much higher, no reasons to get 68/6900 yet.
Unless Amd new drivers does the 'fine wine' performance uplifts. Idk.
But we still got AMD-tards believing that AMD cards deserve to be bought because they’re the underdogs.
And they try to gaslight people (and themselves) into believing that ray-tracing and DLSS are not good.Unknown Soldier
Member
Let's all keep in mind that Nvidia isn't even prioritizing rasterization anymore, they have dedicated significant precious die space to the RT units, the Tensor cores, and the video encoding unit. Even though ever since Turing it's obvious they don't care that much about rasterization they can still beat out AMD which put everything they had into rasterization for Big Navi and don't even have dedicated units to do RT and Tensor (needed for DLSS). And they are doing it on Samsung's kind of shitty "8nm" process which is similar to TSMC 10nm whereas AMD is using TSMC's top of the line 7nm high power process. TSMC 5nm is only for low power chips like ARM, they do not have a high power 5nm process.Wow just wow, Thats why im nibbling Nvidia stocks every dips. Still performance leadership, Crypto revival, ARM is coming. Jensung is da man!
I always felt rDNA2 is $50 too expensive, and with AIB cards priced much higher, no reasons to get 68/6900 yet.
Unless Amd new drivers does the 'fine wine' performance uplifts. Idk.
Nvidia dominates this gen from top to bottom and it's not even really a contest, especially since AMD knows they are just as supply constrained as Nvidia are and so they are pricing Big Navi very close to Ampere (and honestly with AIB markup there is NO price difference) since neither vendor can remotely supply what the market demands anyways so why not harvest as much revenue as possible. More power to AMD here, they are making a rational decision to optimize their profits, but the insufferable fanboys who worship every tiny thing AMD does are even more retarded in this context. AMD could conceivably choose to undercut Nvidia but they won't because their supply wouldn't be enough either way so why bother? Might as well charge the same and be constantly sold out like Nvidia is. Which is exactly what they are doing, and the fanboys just lap it up. Pathetic.
Kenpachii
Member
Of course they do. Otherwise the 3080 would have never come out with the full blown top end chip if they didn't care.
Rickyiez
Member
PSU is cooler master 750W brand new.
I did wonder if it was a PSU issue. But then why would the black screen happen when not gaming also (although that's very rare and often happens when I have closed a game recently).
The card requires 3 8-pin power connectors though, if that helps.
What's daisy chaining?
This is a perfect illustration . The last one on the right is daisy chaining
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Windom Earle
Member
We don't have any real next gen games yet though. Even Cyberpunk still has last gen constraints. WD Legion is already pushing way above 8GB at WQHD, but I guess it's Ubisoft so doesn't really count. But shit ports are not a rarity unfortunately.
I think the argument "in two years we have 40 series" is not very smart because it's totally reasonable to skip a GPU gen from time to time.
I will step-up from 3080 to 3080ti with EVGA if it comes out within the next 2-3 months.
From what I have seen in my country, things have not improved one bit. Prices also STILL keep going up. Probably Christmas + Cyberpunk release.
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Myths
Member
Mister Wolf
Member
If I don’t, who will!?!??
All the robots in disguise.
Myths
Member
I never get an FE, so I do hope some of the Aftermarket distributors implement similar methods Nvidia’s using.
regawdless
Banned
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Was thinking about selling my 3080 for a 3090. Looking at some benchmarks.... Yeah scrap that thought. At 1440p it's literally just a handful fps.
Was thinking about selling my 3080 for a 3090. Looking at some benchmarks.... Yeah scrap that thought. At 1440p it's literally just a handful fps.
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Anki
Banned
ASUS confirms ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 3080 Ti graphics card with 20GB memory - VideoCardz.com
ASUS service and support website already lists the upcoming GeForce RTX 3080 Ti graphics card. ASUS confirms GeForce RTX 3080 Ti The manufacturer becomes the first to confirm that such NVIDIA SKU even exists. The listing reveals that two ROG STRIX graphics cards are in development...
videocardz.com
nemiroff
Gold Member
Because..?
[insert technical verification here, no notion nor no outdated extrapolations, please]
Here's the situation (it's updated daily) from one of the internet shops in my country, yes it's crazier than ever:
NVIDIA GeForce RTX | 3060 Ti | 3070 | 3080 | 3090 » Full overview here! (proshop.no)
Many cards like the Asus Strix and MSI Trio even have a "none delivered since launch" status.. It's pretty bad..
I'm kinda over it, especially since I found out that I can run both Cyberpunk, and even MSFS in VR, looking good with my old 1080 at 1950 MHz.. Will buy one when they are available.
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