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[Victor Omega]

Underneath every Nintendo "gimmick" there is some new way of using something different than the status quo.

I can't really find any games that have used RTX, Ray Tracing other than reflective glass or water.

Even it's older brother, SSR, or Screenspace Reflections, has been only used as intended.

And Ray Tracing Audio is another under utilized mechanic that could have a game built around it.

do you know of any games that use reflective surfaces as a game mechanic?

 

[64bitmodels]

Nintendo could use raytracing or they could achieve an equivalent result through cubemaps or screenspace. Raytracing doesn't provide any gameplay mechanics that Nintendo could feasibly make use of in their games. It's just there for pretty graphics, and that's ok.

 

[RoboFu]

yeah, Everyone waits for Nintendo to show how new tech should be used. sometimes that's a long wait.....

 

[SEGAvangelist]

yeah, Everyone waits for Nintendo to show how new tech should be used. sometimes that's a long wait.....

I can't wait to see when they show us how online multiplayer should be done.

 

[Dacvak]

 

[RoboFu]

Nintendo could use raytracing or they could achieve an equivalent result through cubemaps or screenspace. Raytracing doesn't provide any gameplay mechanics that Nintendo could feasibly make use of in their games. It's just there for pretty graphics, and that's ok.

The whole premise is that Nintendo would think of ways Devs cannot any fathom let alone a neogaf poster.. .

 

[Victor Omega]

i should get my nintendo card revoke for not remembering this lol

 

[bender]

What if Nintendo introduces a new character named Ray and then in the next WarioWare, they create a micro game where Ray is in different poses and the player has to use motion or touch controls to trace an outline of Ray in the various poses before the time runs out?

 

[RoboFu]

I can't wait to see how they show us how online multiplayer should be done.

Sorry we were talking about good games...


But MK8, Smash Bros., and splatoon seems to be doing better than most.

 

[AJUMP23]

In Hitman people could see you trying to kill them just before you pulled the trigger when you looked in the mirror.

 

[Revolutionary]

Hitman 2 & 3 use reflections as a gameplay mechanic. If you're trying to sneak up on someone taking a piss and there's a huge bathroom mirror in front of him, he's going to see you.

Edit: beaten while I was trying to find a gif example. Couldn't find any because apparently gfycat shut down

 

[Beer Baelly]

What if Nintendo introduces a new character named Ray and then in the next WarioWare, they create a micro game where Ray is in different poses and the player has to use motion or touch controls to trace an outline of Ray in the various poses before the time runs out?

 

[MidGenRefresh]

It's 2023 and people still think that RT = 'reflections'? Okay.

 

[Black_Stride]

Light passing through portals in portal rtx is a gimmick but so cool cuz you know where the energy ball is before you actually look through the portal.


The blinds pot viewers in Alan wake let you look around corners just like in real life.


Raytraced audio works so well, I really hope SplinterCell uses it so I can pinpoint enemies well before I see them.

 

[Xdrive05]

Reflections are the least interesting thing that ray tracing can do. RTGI and lighting is about 100 times more impressive and important to the immersion of a scene. See: Metro Exodus EE, Fortnite Lumen. Minecraft RTX, Lego Builders Journey, etc.

That said, it is kind of in Nintendo's wheelhouse to take an existing technology and find a gameplay application for it.

 

[Astral Dog]

probably in some way, yes Nintendo is always trying something in their core design

but RT is not something i see changing much, the 3D screen on 3DS the most they used it was in Mario 3D Land , of course its a cool feature but they didn't rely too heavily on it

Im not even sure what RT a Switch 2 will have, if any,also it won't be the main gimmick

 

[Magic Carpet]

Luigi's Mansion with Ray Tracing.

 

[Playboi Carti]

OP doesn't even know what RT is lmao

 

[Kataploom]

probably in some way, yes Nintendo is always trying something in their core design

but RT is not something i see changing much, the 3D screen on 3DS the most they used it was in Mario 3D Land , of course its a cool feature but they didn't rely too heavily on it

Im not even sure what RT a Switch 2 will have, if any,also it won't be the main gimmick

I played that game with 3D because that effect always felt uncomfortable to look at for me...

 

[damidu]

they sure can't use it for pretty reflections on switch, so why not use it for something else, lol

 

[Raonak]

I wonder if OP is aware that games can do ray calculations without dedicated raytracing hardware.

 

[Yoboman]

Guess we will find out in 30 years

 

[Silver Wattle]

 

[simpatico]

I could see Valve pulling it off if they still made games.

 

[Hudo]

Raytracing can (and is) also used to simulate sound travel to approximate some effects like hall or sound dampening and the like. Dunno how prevalent this is, though. We also used raytracing in one project (but with a different model instead of the standard Kajiya radiance model) to simulate particle travel in human tissue. RT can be used for a lot of things.

 

[TheTony316]

Nintendo needs to figure out how to do proper online first before dabling into ray tracing.

 

[midnightAI]

Underneath every Nintendo "gimmick" there is some new way of using something different than the status quo.

I can't really find any games that have used RTX, Ray Tracing other than reflective glass or water.

Even it's older brother, SSR, or Screenspace Reflections, has been only used as intended.

And Ray Tracing Audio is another under utilized mechanic that could have a game built around it.

do you know of any games that use reflective surfaces as a game mechanic?

Ray tracing is much more than just reflections as has been mentioned. As for ray traced audio, not really new but is quite new using hardware acceleration, Returnal features hardware ray traced audio for example.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Isn’t Ray tracing when you draw over the same exact thing, like right on top of it, without going outside the original designated art?

 

[Trilobit]

What Nintendo game is OP talking about?

 

[Loomy]

This is just as bad as those "what engine is the best?" threads lol

What about Nintendo's output over their last 3 consoles gives you the impression that they're even remotely interested in something like this?

 

[kungfuian]

Wario World Remastered?

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

Underneath every Nintendo "gimmick" there is some new way of using something different than the status quo.

I can't really find any games that have used RTX, Ray Tracing other than reflective glass or water.

Even it's older brother, SSR, or Screenspace Reflections, has been only used as intended.

And Ray Tracing Audio is another under utilized mechanic that could have a game built around it.

do you know of any games that use reflective surfaces as a game mechanic?

Cyberpunk in Overdrive, Alan Wake 2 both use path tracing which is essentially RT for everything not just reflections. No gameplay use as that would screw over people not on RTX cards and console gamers.

 

[nemiroff]

Wtf, lol

 

[Mister Wolf]

I can definitely see Monolith Soft using Nvidia's RTXGI. They have never prioritized resolution or 60fps.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Battletoads in battlemaniacs Chess Bonus have a ray tracing early

 

[Alexios]

If they wanted to use real time reflections as part of gameplay they could already do it without ray tracing and even do so in a 2D game on SNES or wherever. You know, like racing games had working mirrors long before ray tracing by just rendering a behind view (btw, that's used for gameplay).

And even before thinking to actually render mirror views they often had other ways to inform the player of incoming rivals like moving arrows on the screen behind your car (whether in standard modern 3D or top down games) which served the same goal, allowing players to anticipate and block.

Same as we had games where you alternated between two, or more, different planes or dimensions or times or even simultaneously play on them before "SSD power" came. Developers device mechanics and work with the technology they have. Reflections have been used by Nintendo and others.

Same as we had games use the character shadows as a mechanic in any number of ways long before we had ray traced lighting or even any form of what's considered dynamic shadows the last decade or two. RT is eye candy and makes it a bit easier for devs to manage scene lighting etc., that's it.

 

[SF Kosmo]

RT is a out far more than reflections. It could definitely have gameplay implications in the sense of building games with highly dynamic environments or lighting, but that's probably not as gimmicky as what you meant. Maybe a game like portal where portals can be used to light the way?

But I wouldn't hold.pit hope that Nintendo of all companies is going to use RT to great effect. I just don't think the hardware is gonna be that good at it.

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

Nintendo can spin corn into gold too, I bet..... ugh!

Nintendo exceptionalism is just as annoying as Xbox victimization. Just stop, Gaf.

 

[poppabk]

Im honestly struggling to think of a way this could be used as any kind of meaningful gaming mechanic beyond how reflections are used in real life or in games already with non-ray traced 'tricks'. Maybe some kind of hide and seek type game?

 

[zeroluck]

you can use rt for fine grain collision detection, for example cloth simulation.

 

[genesisblock]

Thief is the best game for Ray-Tracing period. Darkness is the mechanic in the game and full-path ray tracing can be used as a means to maximize your exploitation for the light.

 

[radewagon]

OP may have officially lost all objectivity. My condolences.

 

[ShadowkillXNA]

 

[cireza]

In Hitman people could see you trying to kill them just before you pulled the trigger when you looked in the mirror.

Doesn't count.

It's not a Nintendo game.

 

[Stefan.North]

I used to love Nintendo until I realized I am paying what I call "Nintendo tax" - paying 20% more money for a game that is 5% better but on simpler hardware.

And overusing hardware quirks like wiimote or wii u extra screen got boring after a short while, that's why those consoles are rarelly talked now and games didn't make any impact. It also costed them in the long run, because they cannot port over games from those systems, but they have to rework them.

 

[Negotiator101]

Nintendo could use raytracing or they could achieve an equivalent result through cubemaps or screenspace. Raytracing doesn't provide any gameplay mechanics that Nintendo could feasibly make use of in their games. It's just there for pretty graphics, and that's ok.

I don't agree, let's say you have enemies off screen you could still see a reflection or shadow or both of them with Raytracing and that's a gameplay advantage.

 

[buenoblue]

Mirror world.....shadow world.

 

[Kenpachii]

Underneath every Nintendo "gimmick" there is some new way of using something different than the status quo.

I can't really find any games that have used RTX, Ray Tracing other than reflective glass or water.

Even it's older brother, SSR, or Screenspace Reflections, has been only used as intended.

And Ray Tracing Audio is another under utilized mechanic that could have a game built around it.

do you know of any games that use reflective surfaces as a game mechanic?

breath of the wild made use of light and shadows to solve puzzles to get shrines activated.

I dunno what RTX could possible offer for a gameplay mechanic.

 

[Team Andromeda]

I still waiting for Nintendo to get past 1080p never mind Raytracing

 

[tusharngf]

They are behind 10yrs compared to other first party studios. Nintendo needs to fix the console features first. At least add achievements system then think about ray tracing. No doubt they make the best games but tech wise they are far behind.