nekrik
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By that time, HALO infinite will be 4K@60 on Ps5
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ToadMan
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Yep. Thats what it costs.
ToadMan
Member
I’d estimate 500,000 sales predicted on Xbox - that’s $35,000,000 at $70 a pop. I’m guessing Sony (via MLB) will have gone in around $50 mil and maybe more. MS needed the content because they’re dry - so they’ll pay and hope mtx will recoup for them. Gamepass is a monster that will not stop wanting to be fed. As soon as new content dries up, it dies.
I think Sony are happy. I’m gonna guess they budget around $20 mil a year to produce an iteration of The Show - so they’ve cleared that and more from this and haven’t even released it yet. The question is will they see a decline in sales on PS as a result....?
It’s a wise enough business arrangement despite the forum noise I’d say.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
No I get it no one is more tired of the whole next year is our year that Xbox has been saying for the last 5 years more then me.
And honestly I have way more money and over all interest invested into the Playstation Universe and in no way am I predicting doom and gloom for Playstation.
I am just getting this vibe Xbox is more in tune with what gamers are wanting and are making more gamer friendly moves even in the upcoming year.
Playstation will still have the games I prefer as I keep hearing this upcoming God of War is going to set a new bar for the PS5 (which I am expecting a delay announcement though I havent been told this)
And as far as bigger move the needle news I hear more coming out of the Xbox camp then I do PS.
In the end you will find me way more active on my PS5 then XSX though.
ToadMan
Member
Who gives a shit what they payas long as you can play it cheap .. you people.
If a drug dealer offers a free hit - do you just assume they’re being charitable?
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
This title sounds like it should suck, but it doesn't.I'll definitely play it.
Last Man Sitting.
This is just the kind of batshit insane that makes games as a hobby such a joy.
Do you think that the new God of War will only be on the Ps5, without binding to the Ps4?
And Yes. I understand. Xbox makes a lot of great moves for the consumer. And at the moment, their long-term strategy is synergistic with the convenience of the customer, but I will buy this console only when it has something that can withstand Sony, besides Gears, Halo and Forza
. They've announced a lot of games that seem to be exactly what I want. But, the whole problem is that with the exception of CGi, we do not know anything about them, which is still(for me personally) questionable.
onesvenus
Member
Yes, Microsoft, one of the highest-valued companies in the world is well known to throw money
Mr.NiceGuy
Member
Yes, Microsoft, one of the highest-valued companies in the world is well known to throw money
Did I say the expression wrong? English is not my first language but I thought it was clear. Throwing money at the problem till it's fixed, buying success, loss leading till you make it...etc. You know what I mean.
Please don't till me what you see from XBox is not that?
MasterCornholio
Member
This title sounds like it should suck, but it doesn't.
Wow first time I've seen an active sitter.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
You didn't say anything wrong.
Some users just seem to be compelled to blindly defend MS, even when they aren't even being attacked.
Neo Blaster
Member
Once again we are in a period where marketing and public perception favor MS while Sony is shrouded in a mist of silence and 'bad news', just like the beginning of 2020. Wondering if we'll have to wait till June again for them to show the goods.
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Dave_at_Home
Member
The pandemic has screwed everything up manufacturing wise. Game development too. Not to mention there's currently a chip shortage going on, and if Sony and Microsoft decided to delay the manufacturing, they'd be shit out of luck securing production at TSMC. Consoles take years developing and working towards a release date. Unfortunately the bed they made also has Covid. I'm sure we'll see some cool stuff come June. Hopefully I'll own an LG C1 by then.
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Three Jackdaws
Banned
Last year Sony were extremely patient, much to the detriment of many including myself. If they were capable of that then surely this year they will adopt a similar "bleed Microsoft out" strategy. They'll wait for Microsoft to make their move and then Sony will respond with their cards, I'm certain their deck is very stacked.
Neo Blaster
Member
Every generation beginning we have people complaining about not having games to play, but this time the pandemic made it worse ten fold: games being delayed or not yet ready, and many who would just wait till there's a bigger lineup end up rushing to grab a console just because they're afraid of not getting one due to shortages, aggravating that perception.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Xbox media and forum narrative has been going on for years on end. Hopefully it actually materializes into something other that forum talk because Sony needs competition badly atm.
LiquidRex
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bearofparadise
Member
looks like MS is using third parties to spread fud because they got caught with their pants down and no matter how many people scream how good a deal GP is, Sony still has mindshare. Reminds me of the time they were hyping Titanfall like it was the second coming yet they just sat in shelves and begging people to buy it. Atleast Titanfall had E3 shills calling it the best game ever. What do they have now or talked about the past few months? The Medium? finally getting a taste of MLB? thats them having positive public perception?
bearofparadise
Member
I wonder if they knew beforehand there would be a sort of performance deficit that's why they pushed the power narrative early or they genuinely were caught by surprise. I find their marketing strategy so unusual pushing that officially and unofficially but literally had nothing to show, and just did the last minute change of BC BC Game pass to buy time till they have something bigger to show.
LiquidRex
Member
Dave_at_Home
Member
True. Same story every generation. Still weighing in my mind which console to get once they become readily available. Maybe just PS5 and PC combo. I feel too old to care how long this new generation takes to heat up (I'm 35). With everything going on I'm chill enough to wait for the good stuff.
Werewolfgrandma
Banned
Titanfall was fantastic and didn't sell well because people suck not because the game was bad.
bearofparadise
Member
I remember the E3 hype surrounding Titanfall and marketing push that followed it. If you were talking about Titanfall 2 which was great then I am with you, it was criminal how EA just pooped that one out and let it die. The original one though? It felt like an early access game to the real game T2, which the market responded in kind.
Lunatic_Gamer
Gold Member
That’s very exciting to hear. I’m a huge God of War fan. I know you probably can’t share too much but, is there anything else you heard about the new GOW you can share without compromising your source? I too believe GOW Ragnarok and Horizon Forbidden West will get delayed eventually. Just like Gran Turismo did. Well at least we still have the new Ratchet & Clank to look forward to. Thank you
DarkMage619
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How would you know what would incentivize someone to buy a game available on Game pass? You don't use or have the service do you? I bought Octopath because I knew it would not likely be on the service forever and while it is on the service I get a discount. There is no downside. It is not an either or proposition you can buy what you want and you and play what is available. $70 only option does not seem like a superior path.
Werewolfgrandma
Banned
Titanfall 1 was fantastic all around. Everything about it was great. Sales figures show popularity and not whether or not something is good.
bearofparadise
Member
Like I said, nobody is denying the quality of the mechanics and the universe they created. What people were disappointed with is it was hyped to be the second coming of Halo made by the people who made MW2. The expectations and hype didn't meet the product that was delivered. If it had the SP component of TF2 with the MP only part of TF1, then maybe things would have been different and it would've gotten the sales and recognition it deserved.
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onesvenus
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That's what every company does when they want to enter a market, spend until they are successful. It's true that not a lot of companies have the money Microsoft has but I think it's unfair.
For one we don't know the numbers of the Xbox division.
Zoro7
Banned
Please do tell when Microsoft entered the console market? The reason Microsoft is spending so much now is because they completely fucked up last gen. So now they are trying to buy their way to number 1.
Werewolfgrandma
Banned
100% disagree. The game met the hype. There was a lot of bad press around the game but none of it really had to do with gameplay. 10/10 game for me.
Neo Blaster
Member
Entering the marketing? Xbox has been around for 20 years!!
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FranXico
Member
Indeed, Microsoft has a disproportionate amount of funds, which makes it nigh impossible for any other company to enter the market once they take it over.
It is unfair indeed.
And if you really think about it, a real danger.
But let's focus on short term instead, that's wiser.
SSfox
Member
That's the thing with Micro$oft, all that money and never been able to do 5% as good as Sony or even Nintendo.
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Superayate
Member
Yeah, ps3 vs 360, MS has done only shit and Sony was perfect with clearly greater success
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Zoro7
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You realise the PS3 caught up to the 360 in sales and might even have surpassed them. Even though it had a horrendous start. That shows how well Sony did in the latter parts of that generation.Yeah, ps3 vs 360, MS has done only shit and Sony was perfect with clearly greater success
Superayate
Member
And??? Who care about the fact that the PS3 has caught and surpassed the 360, was just answering about "That's the thing with Micro$oft, all that money and never been able to do 5% as good as Sony or even Nintendo."
Just showing that's totally wrong and stupid, 360 and PS3 finished with similar total sales, and the 360 results was more impressive knowing how Sony destroyed everyone the gen before with the PS2.
Zoro7
Banned
Well you see releasing a year before your competition and for a cheaper price gives you that advantage. They then threw away the advantage they had. Please be quiet because you’re talking nonsense.
So you agree that Microsoft has done much better than only 5% as good as Sony and Nintendo.
Superayate
Member
Nonsense, explaining that he is wrong saying that MS never been able to do 5% as Sony or Nintendo with a good example?
The facts are that MS with the 360 was near to beat the previous market leader during this period (And speaking about the fact it was launch one year before, who cares seriously ????), and that's clearly showing that I was right when I was answering him.
Saying the contrary as you are doing is just showing that you're simply a silly blind fanboy.
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Zoro7
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That wasn’t my quote. Anyone with half a brain cell would agree Microsoft has done better than 5% of Sony/Nintendo, much better in fact.
Zoro7
Banned
Why is this 5% bullshit going around? I never said that. My point is Microsoft did poorly the second half of that generation to lose such a huge lead. Again stop talking nonsense.
While so many focus on the horrible messaging and launch marketing of the XBO, this is one of the reasons why last gen played out the way it did. Going all in on Kinect was not the right call. Last few years of the 360 had mainly Kinect games. Last few years of the PS3 had possible and eventual GotY games, core games.
MS: heavy Kinect focus, few core games
Sony: few Move games, heavy focus on core games.
PS3 launched a year later and started out way more expensive....to be tied or have a slight lead shows how much MS dropped the ball later in that gen.
MS will figure it out one day.
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FrankWza
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What about that year of a head start?
Setsuna Mudou
Member
Obviously 5% is hyperbole, but yeah, in the ps360 gen, MS ended up 3rd in sales when all was said and done behind the PS3 worldwide (and 1 year more in the market than sony) but also behind the Wii.
Many mistakes were done that gen by all 1st parties, but the rrod is one gamers will never forget.
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