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Next gen is going to be even more woke!

REE Machine

Banned
I have no problem with non white male protags. What does annoy me is obviously taking a white male protagonist and replacing it. For example, Cat lady in space is fine because it’s a new story and I new ip. She looks horrendous as a main character to play as and I’ll never buy the game but whatever it’s fine. Having miles be the “new” Spider-Man is annoying because it’s obvious that’s for woke points. Thats why the original chapter was created by marvel.
Either way, the slide in OP says it best.
When it comes to mass media, the end goal is the replacement of the white male and tradition American values. This was happening before Trump but his election definitely sped up the process. Breaking the brain of millions of people with mental illness will do that lol.
Also, it’s not just Sony. Microsoft is going extremely woke. I still laugh about Halo 5.
Hes a new character for after peter died, Miles didnt even want to be spiderman, he hid his powers and then felt obligated to be spiderman because he felt guilty that peter died, how is making a black spiderman woke? Peter is dead, its time to move on, would you prefer another white spidey?

woke is now having black characters, interestinG.
 

JeloSWE

Member
I’m black and I would be PISSED, if they remade legend of dragoon and made dart black just cus diversity. I’m waiting on what Microsoft will bring. I swear ever since Sony moved to California they ain’t been the same.
True, now all the american christian values are creeping in. It's going to be much stricter censure in games containing sex/iness as well as more woke content neither of which Japanese developers pay much mind to. I don't personal play eroge games and don't enjoy when an other wise good game out of context relies too much on scantily clad women to sell unless it's upfront with it like DOA. It can be distracting and even detrimental to story beats but I despise moral/religious based censorship, just put a rating on it.
 

hunthunt

Banned
I have no problem with non white male protags. What does annoy me is obviously taking a white male protagonist and replacing it. For example, Cat lady in space is fine because it’s a new story and I new ip. She looks horrendous as a main character to play as and I’ll never buy the game but whatever it’s fine. Having miles be the “new” Spider-Man is annoying because it’s obvious that’s for woke points. Thats why the original character was created by marvel.
Either way, the slide in OP says it best.
When it comes to mass media, the end goal is the replacement of the white male and tradition American values. This was happening before Trump but his election definitely sped up the process. Breaking the brain of millions of people with mental illness will do that lol.
Also, it’s not just Sony. Microsoft is going extremely woke. I still laugh about Halo 5.


You know why Spiderman, Superman, Nathan Drake, Lara Croft and other mains are white right?

because their target was the white young people.

They weren't following any mystical enlightenment of white vs black, they just wanted the money from these people.



Now they know that females and blacks also buy lots games so they are targeting them now.
 
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Honjo

Banned
That's BS! - here is a quick gender spread from the PS5 reveal event.

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That chart is garbage. Most of the games listed with a male protagonist feature both male and female. Half of the others are either "male" robots or furries. Women and non-whites make up the overwhelming majority of story-based titles, while we're left with a few white NBA players and some floating-hands behind a steering wheel. You think they will do a Viking Creed without fictional warrior women? Not a chance.
 
You can't think of an example, a single one?
Lay off the Camembert, then.
Let's see my dear "traditional values" Warrior:
Uncharted the Lost Legacy
Dragon Age Inquisition
Mortal Kombat 11
Far Cry 5
Assassin's Creed Origins/Odyssey
And the soon to be Smash hit The Last Of Us Part 2
And the list goes on.....
 
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JeloSWE

Member
That chart is garbage. Most of the games listed with a male protagonist feature both male and female. Half of the others are either "male" robots or furries. Women and non-whites make up the overwhelming majority of story-based titles, while we're left with a few white NBA players and some floating-hands behind a steering wheel. You think they will do a Viking Creed without fictional warrior women? Not a chance.
Which of those Male only I listed do you also control a Female Main protagonist?
*Except DS which I made an error in counting.*
 
Get woke go broke is a stupid statment, and has been proven to be false time and time again.
really?
comic sales? solo? last jedi? Ghostbusters? batwoman and supergirl ratings? doctor who ratings?

Now those barriers are coming down and I'm in favour of that. Developers should be able to make any type of protagonist they want and I think that's now the case.

sure. but if it was only changing the protagonist. But that's not where it ends.

They go on to change many other characters. when previously sexuality would be barely covered in most games, they put multiple scenes of sexual nature if not infuse the game with sexual elements. Then they'll go and put political agenda topics throughout the story, race baiting, misandry, etc.

BTW, they also won't go to India's bollywood or china and demand diversity there though...
 
really?
comic sales? solo? last jedi? Ghostbusters? batwoman and supergirl ratings? doctor who ratings?
The topic is about video games and that's what i meant, i don't care about comics, movies or tv, but you could argue that the wokest movie released in the past 5 years, Black Panther is also one of the highest grossing movies of all time, so it didn't go broke, as for it's actual quality though.... I've not watched any new movies since 2010 besides Gone Girl.
 
Let's see my dear "traditional values" Warrior:
Uncharted the Lost Legacy
Dragon Age Inquisition
Mortal Kombat 11
Far Cry 5
Assassin's Creed Origins/Odyssey
And the soon to be Smash hit The Last Of Us Part 2
And the list goes on.....

I'm not "a traditional values" warrior and the point flew by you!
 

48086

Member
Hes a new character for after peter died, Miles didnt even want to be spiderman, he hid his powers and then felt obligated to be spiderman because he felt guilty that peter died, how is making a black spiderman woke? Peter is dead, its time to move on, would you prefer another white spidey?

woke is now having black characters, interestinG.

lol congrats on not reading my post.
 
I'm not "a traditional values" warrior and the point flew by you!
Sarcasm my dear Watson.

I was just on 4chan and was laughing at the traditional values LARPers who screech at TLOU 2 and yet demand a "sauce" for the fan art/porn of the new female Lombax from the new Ratchet game.

Also i based my list partially on this fine traditionalist write up

 
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Sarcasm my dear Watson.

I was just on 4chan and was laughing at the traditional values LARPers who screech at TLOU 2 and yet demand a "sauce" for the fan art/porn of the new female Lombax from the new Ratchet game.

Also i based my list partialy on this fine traditionalist write up


All utterly and completely irrelevant to what I said.
Carry on.
 
The topic is about video games and that's what i meant, i don't care about comics, movies or tv, but you could argue that the wokest movie released in the past 5 years, Black Panther is also one of the highest grossing movies of all time, so it didn't go broke, as for it's actual quality though.... I've not watched any new movies since 2010 besides Gone Girl.
black panther is not woke.

Now captain marvel is woke, but that had the benefit of being tied to the continuity needed for avengers infinity war.

We shall see what happens in marvel cinematic now that it seems they sidelined several of the male leads(iron man, thor) and are going woke.
 

Grinchy

Banned
The reason I believe this will only worsen is because the people they try to pander with wokeness will A) never play the game anyway . B) can never be satisfied
This is the biggest problem to me. All of these companies bow down and grovel at the feet of the screeching minority who won't even be consuming the product in the first place.

It's like I'm in an episode of Twilight Zone or something. How did everyone's brains get poisoned like this?
 
No, that's not what I did and it speaks volumes that you think so .
Has that Camembert expired? Maybe you imported it from CHAZ.

You can't think of an example, a single one?
Lay off the Camembert, then.

Holy goal post moving autsim Batman

black panther is not woke.
 
Holy goal post moving autsim Batman


They hype it. Doesn't mean it is. Having a mostly black cast is appropriate for the setting and the character. That alone doesn't make it woke.

Now the sequel, I've heard rumors they want to remove black panther and put his sister as the protagonist. Might also have multiple lgbt, and push harder on misandry and racist rhetoric. Now if they do that, that would be woke. And if it is, lets see its sales.
 
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That's not what I was asking.
Maybe tomorrow it will suddenly hit you. Or in a month, a decade.
I take it the Camembert's from CHAZ.
What the fuck is that? You keep saying it like it means something to me.

And what were you asking if not for examples to prove your favorite catch phrase is wrong and i provided them.

This level of autsim is over 9000, just because we are on an English speaking American site doesn't mean everyone here is American.
 

REE Machine

Banned
lol congrats on not reading my post.
Yeah I read it and you said you dont want minority characters replacing etc. However peter is dead who cares if the character os black, also what are American values...? Are they white values, do black people nor have the same american values as white americans?
Just wondering where your going with this because it sounds pretty damn ignorant.
 
What the fuck is that? You keep saying it like it means something to me.

And what were you asking if not for examples to prove your favorite catch phrase is wrong and i provided them.

This level of autsim is over 9000, just because we are on an English speaking American site doesn't mean everyone here is American.

Weren't you keen on sarcasm a moment ago?
What's wrong? A taste of your own medicine distresses you?

I'm not overly concerned, or surprised, you didn't get what I was asking for.
I'm not about to spell it out for you, that's for sure.
 

Woopah

Member
really?
comic sales? solo? last jedi? Ghostbusters? batwoman and supergirl ratings? doctor who ratings?



sure. but if it was only changing the protagonist. But that's not where it ends.

They go on to change many other characters. when previously sexuality would be barely covered in most games, they put multiple scenes of sexual nature if not infuse the game with sexual elements. Then they'll go and put political agenda topics throughout the story, race baiting, misandry, etc.

BTW, they also won't go to India's bollywood or china and demand diversity there though...
What do you mean by changing other characters exactly?

Also i don't agree with your point about sexuality. Even if they didn't have sex scenes, video game characters have had sexuality since the 80s. And then when graphics got better some games did start having sex scenes.

What's wrong with games having sex scenes or sexuality anyway?
 

Dipsed

Member
You have to look at it from the bright side of things. While these idiots think that their not-so-subtle propaganda offensive is convincing anybody of their abstruse political ideology, what they achieve in fact is getting more and more people aware of their evil plans. That will create a backlash. It's a complete waste of time to try to change the entertainment industry for the better (Hollywood has always been red). We should keep quiet and watch them demontage themselves. And when the time is right, we strike. In the meantime, educate and prepare yourselves. There's probably going to be a culture war. Think McCarthyism.
This

We are already in a culture war and the right has picked up a lot of mindshare since certain events in the west in 2016. Which is why the left is so radical and desperate. Vote conservative in 2020 a lot is on the line. Victors write history and once these studios start to hurt financially then they will go where the money is.

I’m on the fence on the new consoles and I will wait and see what else they have to offer before I commit. But I’m not going to buy a marxists/sjw gaming machine. Miss Master Brown ambiguous gender Chief will be a no go for me.

Let me finish with I’m not a “white straight male” im a brown immigrant that had to leave his country because it was destroyed by Marxism/socialism. I will not cave to the mob. F%ck Marxism. Vote in November!!
 
What do you mean by changing other characters exactly?

Also i don't agree with your point about sexuality. Even if they didn't have sex scenes, video game characters have had sexuality since the 80s. And then when graphics got better some games did start having sex scenes.

What's wrong with games having sex scenes or sexuality anyway?
There's nothing wrong with sexuality. Though there's also the fact that many small children play games even M rated ones, and perhaps in that case it is not appropriate.

There is sexuality in games, but that is in some games not all or the majority. Regardless of the game, it seems that when it goes woke, they have to put kissing, implied sex, etc.

In the past the main character would in most games make no mention of sexuality, they could be gay, trans, bisexual, etc. You just didn't know. But when they go woke, they have to make sure to indicate their sexual preferences, and if possible show them.

As for changing other characters, what I mean is that in some cases it has happened that many if not the majority of the characters in particular piece of entertainment, happen to be lgbt. Not that they're talking about their social circle, that may reasonably have higher lgbt representation, but random encounters turn out to be with brand new lgbt individuals.

When a character moves from town to town, and there's random lesbians, gays and trans characters as very common, that's just not very realistic. These individuals are a small minority of the population.
 
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Those who scream "vote with your wallet" are also wrong, because they think that they are a majority or that their internet/twitter screching is going to change anything.

If you want to make a "traditional values" game go make one yourselves, like you told Anita and her ilk to do back in 2014.
There is a lot of anger in your post, maybe you should have yourself checked before you burn down your city. That statement about games being created as they were before is an acceptance that games used to be made mostly by teenage boys in their parent's basement, or if they had a business with was with their mostly male friends (there are obviously plenty of very talented women in the gaming industry). Those guys were often berated by the girls in high-school, who only got interested in them when they made tons of money typing at the computer.

Still, if you don't see the irony in the image and your language you should not throw mud at anyone.

Also, Twitter (and other social media sites) is actively expunging those who hold these view, or views that are not in line with the woke left, so don't worry, you are left plenty of space to make it seem like "gender/sex is a construct", "man and woman are exactly the same", "orange man is bad", "I see no color is racist", "
What it means the average Joe doesn't give a shit about what the neckbeard is talking about.
The point is that the comic is hetero normative and fat shaming while it pushes for armful stereotypes of a group they don't like (you can't be an SJW is you are fat? or all gamers are fat? it's hard to tell, but I can tell fat shaming when I see it)... It also makes wide assumptions about what "normal people" think, notice how none of them is blue/green/pink haired, or even has the mandatory poc representation. This is kind of sad really.

But to answer your second point, we must unpack a lot of things, I tried to make it short, but I should really write a book, or you should take the maligned red pill (probably a red suppository would be more advised in your case). They don't care for woke ideology either. Most people want to be nice, they only approach these debates on the surface, by example they fall for the peaceful anti-racist protests narrative in the NYT until their neighborhood burns or some armed thugs take over the area where they live.

They also believe that the identitarian left is anti-racist, most people don't know about or what white-privilege, white-fragility, white-guilt, internalized oppression all mean, they never heard of it at all. If they do know, they were fed this in school and never bothered to wonder what it actually implies (I.E. white superiority, only whites have ethics, whites can deceive, only whites have privilege, if a poc, gay, etc. doesn't fall in line they are told in a paternalistic manner that they have internalized their oppression).

For someone on the outside it--SJW ideology--looks and act like a religious cult with its dogmas, lifestyle prescriptions (affirmation of other people's quirks), ceremonies and cherry picked acceptance of scientific knowledge.


Get woke go broke is a stupid statment, and has been proven to be false time and time again.
It has some truth to it, traditional news media is dying as it gets more woke, movie franchises/comics get killed as they make the transition... People aren't so excited about the next mcu installments. Sure this is not always the case (tlou2 is doing pretty well), but there is definitely some truth to 'get woke go broke' meme.
You believe there are absolutely no situations/events that vigorously demand a definitive decision which side of the fence you're on? You do believe that fate never calls for that leap of faith, to choose a side which you believe is the right one? That there are no states of exception in this world? Yes, I do believe there are times when all of us have to decide what we believe is right and wrong. It seems the era ppl think this state is permanent, which I don't. Tells you a lot about them. They're at war with something. Maybe that something is something you wouldn't want to die?
You should be able to pick your own route, not have one dictated by the fear of one mob over another.... That being said, the current situation is pretty scary because right before the n4z1s took over in Germany there was some left wing uprising in a couple of cities and people got rightfully scared of their eventual communist overlords, so they looked for a solution and well we all know what happened then, the other group that was ready to "defend" them was right there, offering prosperity, government jobs, and satisfying the identitarian thirst of some had back then.

Enough, there may be some ideas the need clarification, but this post is already too long.
 

Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
Nextgen? All the things you mentioned only apply to Sony

where did MS do the same?



 
Things are happening. The normie army will be activated by a movement or at most as soon as they see the damage and it will be stopped. Also diminished sales when people who realize they've been baited and switched out. In the case of TLoU2, what they did was like a company getting the rights to do a sequel to a Disney cartoon and in the middle it changes to a cannibal film. There's a reason why creators don't do this. It's like buying out the rights to McDonalds today and tomorrow morning switching to human shit burgers. The same amount of people will buy the shit burger until they eat it (like buying and playing TLou2) and sales will be normal, but returns will diminish when customers realize their eating shit and then tell others. Even then, telling others, "don't eat the burgers, they shit on them!" you will still have those people that don't believe them and they'll still buy and eat the shit burger. Any way it goes, the end of the day it's a shit.
 

Lupin3

Targeting terrorists with a D-Pad
When talking about this you first need to separate physical sex, what your chromosomes code for, and then you have, gender, what you feel/identify as. Cis is basically that the gender you identify as is the same as you physical sex. A trans person might identify as a Woman but was born a physical man. Able bodied I have no clue, if I had to guess they mean strong and healthy looking.
I've had to read up on this to understand what all this new words mean. I find it confusing and at times very tiresome but I understand the fundamental importance of the matter. I you don't make a lot of noise you won't see any change but there certainly are a lot of bad apples taking this over the top or for personal gains, as is the case in ANT group of people.

Yeah, it was the "able bodied" part that confused me. As for identity, I personally don't "identify" myself as anything but myself. But whatever floats anyone's boat, I guess.

That said, I too am kinda tired of the typical Nathan Drake characters we see in quite a lot of games. But perhaps for other reasons.
 

JeloSWE

Member
Yeah, it was the "able bodied" part that confused me. As for identity, I personally don't "identify" myself as anything but myself. But whatever floats anyone's boat, I guess.

That said, I too am kinda tired of the typical Nathan Drake characters we see in quite a lot of games. But perhaps for other reasons.
Haha, and you have the 4 x Chris in the Marvel Movies as well. But yeah, Nathan has such a stereotypical hero look it's almost comical.
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