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TheGreatMightyPoo · Jan 17, 2015

bobawesome said:
Riiiiight...because three Wii U games won a handful of awards. This is going to move an additional 30 million units in no time. Let's not give ourselves false expectations, here.

It doesn't matter if Nintendo keeps cranking out (high quality) games for it.

Megatron · Jan 17, 2015

I will admit to being happy that dragon age fell to 4. Still too high of course, but early on it looked like it might be first. I suspected smash might edge ahead of it, but mk8 doing it is a complete surprise.

Conrad Link · Jan 17, 2015

For the first time in a few years we finally we got it right GAF, good job everyone!

And grats Nintendo, amazing year.

Endo Punk · Jan 17, 2015

theprodigy said:
2004: Metal Gear Solid 3 (Sony exclusive)
2005: Resident Evil 4 (multiplatform)
2006: The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Nintendo exclusive)
2007: Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo exclusive)
2008: Metal Gear Solid 4 (Sony exclusive)
2009: Uncharted 2 (Sony exclusive)
2010: Mass Effect 2 (multiplatform)
2011: Portal 2 (multiplatform)
2012: Journey (Sony exclusive)
2013: The Last of Us (Sony exclusive)
2014: Bayonetta 2 (Nintendo exclusive)

Ninja Gaiden was robbed!

Tainted · Jan 17, 2015

You can see now why there was so much backlash here with Giant Bomb's top 10. MK8 only just made it into their 10 and smash bros / DKC were a no show

Apart from the Destiny hullabaloo

Vulcano's assistant · Jan 17, 2015

Conrad Link said:
For the first time in a few years we finally we got it right GAF, good job everyone!

And grats Nintendo, amazing year.

You implying Portal 2 isn't GOTY material, mate?

guek · Jan 17, 2015

Tainted said:
What big titles do Nintendo have in store for 2015 ? With such big titles coming this year on the other platforms such as MGSV, Batman, Witcher 3, Halo 5, Uncharted, etc They are going to have to do well to beat their 2014 lineup

I guarantee Splatoon is going to show up on gaf's list for 2015.

This is going to be a great year overall.

PanicFreak · Jan 17, 2015

theprodigy said:
Speaking of how exclusives do vs muliplatform games...

2004: Metal Gear Solid 3 (Sony exclusive)
2005: Resident Evil 4 (multiplatform)
2006: The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Nintendo exclusive)
2007: Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo exclusive)
2008: Metal Gear Solid 4 (Sony exclusive)
2009: Uncharted 2 (Sony exclusive)
2010: Mass Effect 2 (multiplatform)
2011: Portal 2 (multiplatform)
2012: Journey (Sony exclusive)
2013: The Last of Us (Sony exclusive)
2014: Bayonetta 2 (Nintendo exclusive)

2015 is either going to be Sony exclusive (Uncharted 4/Bloodborne), Nintendo exclusive (Zelda), or Metal Gear Solid V (which would make it 3/3 in these...wow)

If MGSV wins, GAF confirmed full of MGS fans /s

Edit: if it does it would be 3 Sony first party, 3 Nintendo first party, 3 multiplats, and 3 MGS LOL

Resident Evil 4 was exclusive to the Gamecube for a while too. Probably during the year it was voted GotY here.

gingerbeardman · Jan 17, 2015

Amazing results!

Huge respect to Nintendo for producing those games in the face of so much negativity.

What a year for Wii U.

Here's my list
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=144881119

Props to my affinity crew

1. KooopaKid (60) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143570728&postcount=30
2. Ansatz (45) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143576878&postcount=129

Neiteio said:
Guess I'll plug my ballot for anyone interested: HERE

I hope they were counted as the rules said they need to be in numerical order.

RespectThySole · Jan 17, 2015

Servbot24 said:
Good top 10 aside from Mordor, which is horrid. South Park isn't very good either, but I realize people are playing it because they like the show, which I don't care for.

To be fair I can't think of an XBox exclusive that could really have any chance aside from a Halo game. Maybe Bioshock, though Galaxy was clearly superior imho.

Gears as well. It only had 6 less media votes than Oblivion in 2006. Not saying it should've won on GAF though, because Twilight Princess was also a fine game. Also, Mass Effect 2 was only on 360/PC in 2010.(and it did win on GAF)

GamerJM · Jan 17, 2015

I guess I'll post my affinity list since everyone else did:

1. Theorymon (109) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=147842528&postcount=1874
2. Brazil (97) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143575597&postcount=107
3. MaverickHunterAsh (93) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=147680924&postcount=1643
4. Muzy72 (86) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=147844196&postcount=1897
5. Mauricio_Magus (82) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143570389&postcount=22
6. Cheesemeister (81) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=146920955&postcount=1407
7. kuroneko0509 (78) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143577079&postcount=131
8. Prinny (77) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=146679428&postcount=1365
8. Zalman (77) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143569321&postcount=6
10. mrmickfran (76) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=144762646&postcount

My guys right here. Theorymon is apparently my bro, I ranked really high in his. Bayonetta and Shovel Knight are apparently the biggest recommendations to me....I'm actually in the middle of playing both and I'm enjoying them but neither is really clicking with me. Azure Striker Gunvolt is also apparently something I need to play but it never really appealed to me at all, maybe I'll get it if it ever goes on sale or gets ported to Steam and then goes on sale there or something. According to Theorymon I need to play Sunset Overdrive and Titanfall, both of which are games I would have if I had an Xbox One yet (waiting for a Slim model!).

Conrad Link · Jan 17, 2015

Vulcano's assistant said:
You implying Portal 2 isn't GOTY material, mate?

Dark Souls is one of my most favourite games of all time, so of course I'm gonna be rooting for it!

massoluk · Jan 17, 2015

Huh? That NintendoGAF-are-stacking-the-vote posts are for real?
If it was true, a Nintendo game would have won every year.
/facepalm

Wookieomg · Jan 17, 2015

Fantastic list! Thanks timetokill and Cheesemeister! Really awesome stats for everything. I appreciate the recommendations and affinity list!

Figured I'd give a shout out to my like-minded GAF bros!

1. BPoole (111) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=144099247&postcount=777
2. Parley (102) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=145447633&postcount=1109
3. Euron Crow's Eye (91) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=146703977&postcount=1367
3. Kagoshima_Luke (91) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143570911&postcount=40
3. ShockingAlberto (91) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=145050373&postcount=982
6. Makareu (90) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143583274&postcount=222
7. Linkyn (89) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143569528&postcount=8
8. rakhir (88) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=144681016&postcount=935
9. Levyne (84) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=144692872&postcount=936
9. paradox121 (84) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=144262582&postcount=822

And as others have done, I figured I'd rate my top 10 in relation to GAF top 10... I am apparently attached at the hip to the hive mind! 6/10 are within the Top 10! And within the top 50 overall!

#1 Dark Souls 2 (GAF #5)
#2 Dragon Age Inquisition (GAF #4)
#3 Divinity Original Sin (GAF #14)
#4 Super Smash Bros for Wii U (GAF #3)
#5 DKC: TR (GAF #6)
#6 Shovel Knight (GAF #10)
#7 Middle-Earth (GAF #9)
#8 Diablo 3 Reaper of Souls (GAF #25)
#9 World of Warcraft Warlords of Draenor (GAF #50)
#10 Theatrhythm Final Fantasy Curtain Call (GAF #44)

Beerman462 · Jan 17, 2015

I must have missed the voting, but Nintendo wins aren't surprising. A lot of people here really seemed to like those games. Dark Souls 2 is on there other than that I didn't feel very strongly about any games this year.

KuwabaraTheMan · Jan 18, 2015

So why was Steins;Gate put in the re-releases list rather than the main list? I know it only got 8 points, so it's not a huge deal either way, but this was the first ever English language release for it, which puts it into the same department as Danganronpa 1 and 2.

Solid list overall, at least compared to some recent years. I was hoping Danganronpa would be higher, but at least it got recognized.

My affinity:
KuwabaraTheMan
1. Prinny (94) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=146679428&postcount=1365
2. Busaiku (83) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=147522740&postcount=1555
3. A Link to the Snitch (78) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143603353&postcount=279
4. Ondore (75) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=145144927&postcount=992
5. Necrovex (72) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=146495426&postcount=1343
5. Sallokin (72) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=144414331&postcount=887
5. zashga (72) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=146063098&postcount=1228
8. NFreak (71) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143980702&postcount=698
9. Dad (69) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143679268&postcount=414
10. flatearthpandas (65) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143586490&postcount=240

I actually recognize about half the list. For the ones I don't recognize, at least I now know they're all people with great taste.

My top 10 recommendations:
KuwabaraTheMan
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=147839216&postcount=1857
1. [NWU] Bayonetta 2 (Action) = 17 points
2. [3DS] Fantasy Life (RPG) = 7 points
3. [NWU] Hyrule Warriors (Action) = 6 points, 1 honorable mention
4. [360][PS3][PC] Dark Souls II (RPG) = 6 points
5. [360][XB1][PS3][PS4][PC] Dragon Age: Inquisition (RPG) = 5 points
6. [3DS] Theatrhythm Final Fantasy: Curtain Call (Rhythm) = 5 points
7. [NWU][3DS][PC] Shovel Knight (Platform) = 4 points, 1 honorable mention
8. [3DS] Pokémon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire (RPG) = 4 points
9. [PS4] Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty! (Platform) = 3 points
10. [3DS] Kirby: Triple Deluxe (Platform) = 3 points

I've already picked up Shovel Knight, and I plan to play Bayonetta 2 and Hyrule Warriors eventually. Actually pretty much everything here seems like stuff I might like, aside from Curtain Call. I'm just not a fan of rhythm games.

How my top 10 fared:
Danganronpa: 16
Steins; Gate: not listed
Tropical Freeze: 6
Out of the Park Baseball 15: 189 (my most obscure game)
Persona Q: 36
Danganronpa 2: 24
Bravely Default: 33
Smash: 3
The Wolf Among Us: 29
Mario Kart 8: 2

So I had a few games that didn't really make any impression, but three of the my Top 10 were in the Top 6, so that's a pretty good year for me.

pariah164 · Jan 18, 2015

Hours Left said:
pariah164 is my GotY soulmate.

I don't know how to do the whole affinity thing, but yay! A bit sad only one of my picks was in the main top ten, but DR popped up on a lot of the smaller lists, so I'm happy.

SuperSonic1305 · Jan 18, 2015

alr1ght · Jan 18, 2015

2011

Code:

		Microsoft ballots	370	28.39601%
		Microsoft == 100%	0	0%
		Microsoft >= 80%	0	0%
		Microsoft >= 50%	8	0.6139678%

		Multi ballots	1255	96.31619%
		Multi == 100%	118	9.056025%
		Multi >= 80%	347	26.63085%
		Multi >= 50%	962	73.82962%

		Nintendo ballots	667	51.18956%
		Nintendo == 100%	34	2.609363%
		Nintendo >= 80%	56	4.297774%
		Nintendo >= 50%	186	14.27475%

		PC ballots	466	35.76362%
		PC == 100%	1	0.07674597%
		PC >= 80%	2	0.1534919%
		PC >= 50%	21	1.611665%

		Sony ballots	716	54.95012%
		Sony == 100%	8	0.6139678%
		Sony >= 80%	15	1.15119%
		Sony >= 50%	87	6.676899%

2012

Code:

		Microsoft ballots	323	33.50623%
		Microsoft == 100%	2	0.2074689%
		Microsoft >= 80%	2	0.2074689%
		Microsoft >= 50%	12	1.244813%

		Multi ballots	917	95.12448%
		Multi == 100%	61	6.327801%
		Multi >= 80%	182	18.87967%
		Multi >= 50%	636	65.97511%

		Nintendo ballots	346	35.89212%
		Nintendo == 100%	11	1.141079%
		Nintendo >= 80%	14	1.452282%
		Nintendo >= 50%	61	6.327801%

		PC ballots	515	53.42324%
		PC == 100%	6	0.6224067%
		PC >= 80%	7	0.7261411%
		PC >= 50%	71	7.365145%

		Sony ballots	522	54.14938%
		Sony == 100%	9	0.93361%
		Sony >= 80%	10	1.037344%
		Sony >= 50%	62	6.431535%

2013

Code:

		Microsoft ballots	67	5.751073%
		Microsoft == 100%	1	0.08583691%
		Microsoft >= 80%	1	0.08583691%
		Microsoft >= 50%	3	0.2575107%

		Multi ballots	1054	90.4721%
		Multi == 100%	16	1.373391%
		Multi >= 80%	72	6.180257%
		Multi >= 50%	482	41.37339%

		Nintendo ballots	693	59.48498%
		Nintendo == 100%	23	1.974249%
		Nintendo >= 80%	63	5.407725%
		Nintendo >= 50%	262	22.48927%

		PC ballots	548	47.03863%
		PC == 100%	20	1.716738%
		PC >= 80%	21	1.802575%
		PC >= 50%	90	7.725322%

		Sony ballots	853	73.21889%
		Sony == 100%	29	2.48927%
		Sony >= 80%	34	2.918455%
		Sony >= 50%	145	12.44635%

2014

Code:

		Microsoft ballots	161	14.8524%
		Microsoft == 100%	0	0%
		Microsoft >= 80%	0	0%
		Microsoft >= 50%	2	0.1845018%

		Multi ballots	1041	96.03321%
		Multi == 100%	60	5.535055%
		Multi >= 80%	219	20.20295%
		Multi >= 50%	709	65.40591%

		Nintendo ballots	664	61.25461%
		Nintendo == 100%	22	2.02952%
		Nintendo >= 80%	55	5.073801%
		Nintendo >= 50%	230	21.21771%

		PC ballots	380	35.05535%
		PC == 100%	4	0.3690037%
		PC >= 80%	8	0.7380074%
		PC >= 50%	41	3.782288%

		Sony ballots	516	47.60147%
		Sony == 100%	4	0.3690037%
		Sony >= 80%	5	0.4612546%
		Sony >= 50%	36	3.321033%

pariah164 · Jan 18, 2015

Neeeever mind. I figured it out.

1. A Link to the Snitch (103) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143603353&postcount=279
2. Hours Left (102) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=147685271&postcount=1652
3. theecakee (100) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=146683358&postcount=1366
4. alice (96) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=147088757&postcount=1445
5. Brazil (90) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143575597&postcount=107
6. lazyproblems (88) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=147708251&postcount=1681
7. antibolo (82) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143894989&postcount=642
8. A Huge Battleship (81) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=145198483&postcount=1003
9. Delstius (77) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143580619&postcount=191
10. cosmicblizzard (75) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=147692219&postcount=1661

Good people right here.

Neiteio · Jan 18, 2015

gingerbeardman said:
Amazing results!

Huge respect to Nintendo for producing those games in the face of so much negativity.

What a year for Wii U.

Here's my list
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=144881119

Props to my affinity crew

I hope they were counted as the rules said they need to be in numerical order.

Reverse numerical order was allowed. I had the organizers check my ballot to ensure it would work with the parser. As long as you have the number, game name, semicolons, and no gaps on the lineup, it works.

RespectThySole · Jan 18, 2015

Ceebs · Jan 18, 2015

The fact Divinity was so low is a crime.

Then again I never agree with 80% of the GAF top 10's.

Finalow · Jan 18, 2015

Bricky said:

well done.

CrichtonKicks · Jan 18, 2015

Servbot24 said:
To be fair I can't think of an XBox exclusive that could really have any chance aside from a Halo game. Maybe Bioshock, though Galaxy was clearly superior imho.

If you don't count PC then ME2 was exclusive to 360 in 2010.

Conrad Link · Jan 18, 2015

I was hoping for better for one of my fav games of the year. Certianlly my most surprising hit of the year for me.

I wouldn't call it a strategy game though lol.

AHA-Lambda · Jan 18, 2015

What do the numbers in the brackets mean for affinity?

randomkid · Jan 18, 2015

ShockingAlberto said:
I am on a surprising number of affinity lists this year.

I wonder if I suddenly became more mainstream this time around.

You were in fact, the fifth most mainstream voter out of 1000 votes.

Cheesemeister said:
That's him.

NeoGAF
1. UberTag (132) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143579212&postcount=172
2. jepense (128) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=146440058&postcount=1336
2. Necrovex (128) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=146495426&postcount=1343
4. Paulee (127) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143693767&postcount=452
5. ShockingAlberto (126) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=145050373&postcount=982
6. BY2K (125) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143574544&postcount=92
7. JerkShep (122) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=144100393&postcount=778
8. NotLiquid (120) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=147787967&postcount=1764
9. Gartooth (117) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=147129455&postcount=1460
10. Juke Joint Jezebel (116) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=145282231&postcount=1024

Plz revel in your midbrow taste!

Usobuko · Jan 18, 2015

Massa said:
The gif is wonderful. It has multiple meanings as well, with Iwata punching away all the great third party games.

Lol.

Fine Ham Abounds · Jan 18, 2015

JDSN · Jan 18, 2015

Bricky said:

OMG

jimi_dini · Jan 18, 2015

timetokill said:
01. Bayonetta 2 = 1132 points, 12 honorable mentions
02. Mario Kart 8 = 925 points, 21 honorable mentions
03. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U = 850 points, 20 honorable mentions
06. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze = 675 points, 16 honorable mentions

Zemm · Jan 18, 2015

The best part about these threads are the usual people who try to downplay the results and come up with conspiracies regarding why their favourite game on their favourite console didn't win. You can almost hear the sobbing through your monitor.

theecakee · Jan 18, 2015

Not a bad list at all, didn't think Bayonetta 2 was that good though.

Here is the list in comparison to mine...

1. Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc (GAF #16)
2. Shovel Knight (GAF #10)
3. Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair (GAF #24)
4. Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker (GAF #30)
5. South Park Stick of Truth (GAF #8)
6. Child of Light (GAF #38)
7. Dragon Age: Inquisition (GAF #4)
8. Bravely Default (GAF #33)
9. Shadow of Mordor (GAF #9)
10. Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth (GAF #36)

Going back, I think I would have brought Captain Toad up a few more ranks to 2nd or 3rd and maybe swapped Hohokum with Persona Q. DR still stays as my GOTY.

Flaxh · Jan 18, 2015

I wouldn't change much, list is fine.

Just bugs me how Shadows of Mordor is only 9th and Driveclub finished ahead of Horizon 2.

Robert7lee · Jan 18, 2015

Conrad Link said:
For the first time in a few years we finally we got it right GAF, good job everyone!

And grats Nintendo, amazing year.

There is no right or wrong, it's all opinion.

So from this I gather most users on GAF have all the major consoles, and a wii u?

Fine Ham Abounds · Jan 18, 2015

Oh, I missed Iconoclast's list. I'm glad I bought Crimson Clover when it was on sale earlier this month, will have to play it soon

Axass · Jan 18, 2015

Holy shit, 4 Wii U games out of the first 10! Top 3 exclusively Nintendo games!

GAF I'm proud of you, giving credit where it's due.

Now, think about it: the system with the three best games of 2014 is selling like shit, people are saying Nintendo should drop dead and go third party or become an iOS developer.

Kagoshima_Luke · Jan 18, 2015

Good job everyone on getting #1 right, unlike so many other websites/mags.

Tainted · Jan 18, 2015

Kagoshima_Luke said:
Good job everyone on getting #1 right, unlike so many other websites/mags.

Or maybe GAF just got it wrong ?

jk

Regiruler · Jan 18, 2015

Why is sub wars listed as a simulator?
Slow as it is, it's still an FPS.

10k · Jan 18, 2015

jimi_dini said:

Perfection.

ArkkAngel007 · Jan 18, 2015

Decent list, and probably really close to how it would have turned out if I had played most of those this year. The one I provided was quite small and heavily leaned on early 2014.

Astral Dog · Jan 18, 2015

OH my God...

When was the voting process, for this!?

Bayonetta 2 is a great game, but im very surprised it won goty, even here, it was not a very good year it seems

Bayonetta 2 is a sequel that polishes and removes what was "wrong" on the first game, in that process it lost something special that the first game had, and unfortunately its too close to Bayonetta 1 to stand on its own, it would not be my goty, although Smash 4 is the only one i put above it this year..

Whatever, im glad the game is getting some recognition, regardless of what could had been, or sales.

GamerJM · Jan 18, 2015

Okay, so this is kind of weird but I just checked the 2004 list, how did Minish Cap do that well before it was released in the US :lol? Did that many people import it or did a lot of GAFers just play GBA games on emulators back then or something?

Astral Dog · Jan 18, 2015

Dr.Acula said:
Waaaaaaaaat?

Controversy!

Character action is such a weak genre. I never got Bayo/DMC/et al. I'm surprised that the WiiU was popular enough on GAF, and that character action was popular enough in and of itself for Bayo to run away with the #1.

Ninty having the top-3 and 4 of the top-6 is super surprising to me.

ninjablade said:
meh list. exclusives always seem to always come out on top here on neogaf, and i already know why.

Then again this is wrong, Bayonetta 2 is a gift for fans of the genre, even including the first game, now im glad it won.
Exclusives always get more attention, but all the games on the list were well recieved critically... also this was a weak year overall.
.

If only because the industry would be better with more games like Bayonetta, Wonderful 101 and Metal Gear Rising.

His Majesty · Jan 18, 2015

Divinity 4th best RPG of the year, no Dragonfall or Wasteland 2 in the top-10. This is very disappointing.

AcademicSaucer · Jan 18, 2015

I really need to play Bayonetta 2 , i need to clean my backlog tho

Jaykay · Jan 18, 2015

Glad to see OlliOlli got a picture for winning best sports title!

Like I've seen said already, I'm surprised Hearthstone just missed the top 20. Still, the list is really strong overall.

BokehKing · Jan 18, 2015

bobawesome said:
Riiiiight...because three Wii U games won a handful of awards. This is going to move an additional 30 million units in no time. Let's not give ourselves false expectations, here.

Sony didn't even hit 20 yet and that's selling like gangbusters, the wii u is fine for what it is, good old fashioned video game values

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