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Naughty Dog new Game, Code name Paradox

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I hope the monsters of the black sea are not controversial.

Naughty Dog has already posted an apology on Twitter/X:

"Today's leak contained a reference to 'Monsters of the Black Sea'.

We now understand that this can be misconstrued as a hurtful stereotype and greatly regret this error. We sincerely apologize and will do better in the future."
 
Fake.
The story reads just like Uncharted bois (Drake and Sam) esorting Ellie to the fabled promised land. Chatgpt really needs to up its game these days.
 

Fbh

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Sounded plausible until the story description.
2 male main character is already a red flag, but the whole "thieving brothers escorting a girl" just sounds like ChatGPT trying to come up with something that sounds like a ND game based on their recent releases.
 
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This sounds sick AF... but really... fuck these folks for ruining ND's announcement.

TBF, we've heard fuk-all from Naughty Dog on any of their titles in-development (that isn't a remake) for years now...if they took so long then yeah I can see someone else spoiling the reveal. Normally I'm against spoiling reveals but anything non-GaaS beyond Spiderman 2 1P-wise has been so tight-lipped about from Sony's studios it's ridiculous at this point.

Anyway, it sounds like it could be an interesting concept. I can notice the TLOU influences in some of what's described, but it does sound like they're also taking inspiration from WRPGs as well and maybe even a tiny bit of DnD in places perhaps? The procedural dungeons...hopefully they're miles better than the ones in games like Starfield, and hopefully they don't take the place of completely handcrafted ones, either.

Not a lot else to go off of right now but, it's promising.

Lol at thinking it's gonna be anything but TLOU3. Especially after the show being huge success
I'm so fucking tired of that IP

Their studio is big enough to support multiple AAA games (at least 2) in dev and TLOU3 was only announced for going into production earlier this year I think? So it's a long ways off. This new IP of theirs has been in development longer so it should come first.
 
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Majormaxxx

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Looking forward to progressive messages, subverted expectations, deconstructed characters and genre fundamentals... And no fun, of course.
 

Majormaxxx

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Same way they'd knock Factions multiplayer out the park, right?
They make good looking games. And, their mp for U4 was good. For lou1 it was pay to win with stupidly op paid weapons. I bet factions failed because of schemes to make it even more predatory than lou1mp
 

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Same way they'd knock Factions multiplayer out the park, right?
Most likely yes, we have Bungie to thank for that not coming to fruition.

They will knock any single player game out of the park. They have more raw talent than other studios. Point blank
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
People are saying fake because AI, don't realize that ND fired the art team and they are just using AI for concept art
 
They make good looking games. And, their mp for U4 was good. For lou1 it was pay to win with stupidly op paid weapons. I bet factions failed because of schemes to make it even more predatory than lou1mp

I was actually a huge fan of UC4 multiplayer, but yes I agree... I think there was heavy pressure from Sony to make the upcoming multiplayer heavy with MTX and other such things... not really in ND's playbook as they excel at single player experiences.

Most likely yes, we have Bungie to thank for that not coming to fruition.

They will knock any single player game out of the park. They have more raw talent than other studios. Point blank

Not true, they're a great studio but they don't always shit out pure gold, as was likely the case with the multiplayer.

They've historically excelled at single player linear experiences but there's nothing in their track record to suggest they'd make an open world game which can rival something like Witcher 3 or even come close to it for that matter.
 

Godot25

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4 years for new IP? Yeah. It's bullshit.
It took 5 years for Guerrilla Games to develop by-the-books sequel to established IP. There is no way in hell new IP from Naughty Dog entered development in 2021 with 2025 release date. Especially since Naughty Dog were split between TLOU Factions, TLOU Remake and this project.

So it is clearly bullshit.
 

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Not true, they're a great studio but they don't always shit out pure gold, as was likely the case with the multiplayer.

They've historically excelled at single player linear experiences but there's nothing in their track record to suggest they'd make an open world game which can rival something like Witcher 3 or even come close to it for that matter.
And there was nothing in CPDR's track record that showed they would knock CP2077 out of the park until they did.

There was no signal ND would crush TLOU like they did, after spending decades making teenie bop games, they make a dark, gritty masterpiece like TLOU.

They have raw talent.

They made a semi- open world with Jak 2 and 3 back in the day. They've been experimenting with the concept since the Madagascar level back in 2016

I guarantee you they'd knock whatever this is out of the park, some studios never miss. talent always wins.
 
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Ev1L AuRoN

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After SM2 I'm recalibrating my expectations on Sony exclusives, No more day-one purchases for me, I'll wait and do my diligence before buying.
 
And there was nothing in CPDR's track record that showed they would knock CP2077 out of the park until they did.

Except for making one of the greatest fantasy RPG's in gaming history.

There was no signal ND would crush TLOU like they did, after spending decades making teenie bop games, they make a dark, gritty masterpiece like TLOU.
Both Uncharted 1 and 2 released before TLOU1, so ND had plenty of hands experience with linear single player experiences and TLOU1 was pretty much similar to those games expect of course for its narrative and characters.

They have raw talent.

They made a semi- open world with Jak 2 and 3 back in the day. They've been experimenting with the concept since the Madagascar level back in 2016

I guarantee you they'd knock whatever this is out of the park, some studios never miss. talent always wins.

That Madagascar level was extremely basic in terms of open world design and mechanics. e.g. go to location A and complete menial quest. and then do the same when you get to location B and C.
 
The ONLY thing that would give this any credibility to me would be the idea being based around water.

I would fucking suck off any ND that goes even harder into rain, waterfall, river and ocean graphics.
 
Okay so this rumor is fake it seems like? Welp, nothing worth discussing on the topic then I guess. What a waste of time 😠

While it’s likely fake, I do hope they try a new IP. Wasting all that talent.

Seems the person who made the rumor already said they wanted a Dieselpunk CRPG before making up the rumor, and the image is AI-generated.

If he has a cat I hope the cat slaps him up the head.
 
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Except for making one of the greatest fantasy RPG's in gaming history.
Completely different genre. All this would be is ND moving to a new genre and expanding the world/map a bit, I don't see why you think a talented ass studio like ND would fail at that. Its fucking ND, they have literally never made a bad game in their 30+ year history.

They went from 2D platformers, to 3rd person action adventure, to 3rd person story driven action adventure. Nailed it every time. And dabbled with some MP in the middle

Suddenly they will fall short? After probably studying other games for the past decade?

Neil has publicly stated, TLOU 2 was originally gonna be an open world game, this has been an idea they've wanted to do for probably close to a decade now. So its just time to execute on plans and design concepts theyve been sitting on forever
Both Uncharted 1 and 2 released before TLOU1, so ND had plenty of hands experience with linear single player experiences and TLOU1 was pretty much similar to those games expect of course for its narrative and characters.
And before Uncharted they had Jak and Crash, which were both entirely different genres... Studios with talent will nail anything they set out to do.
 
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yurinka

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The idea sounds good, but I don't see Sony, and even less ND, making a game with two (white?) male brothers scorting a girl nowadays.

Unless they are gay, trans or non-binary or something like that. I think ND future few next game will have non-white female protagonists. And pretty likely non-heterosexual too.

Edit: I took some extra "leaked screenshots" (fake AI pictures I just made) for you:
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mckmas8808

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The idea sounds good, but I don't see Sony, and even less ND, making a game with two white? male brothers scorting a girl nowadays.

Unless they are gay, trans or non-binary or something like that. I think ND future few next game will have non-white female protagonists. And pretty likely non-heterosexual too.

For some reason I don't think Naughty Dog would have two white leads in their next game.

Yall are joking right?
 
It maybe someone from the inside getting tired of all the ND bad stories going around lately.

Or someone who wants to push back against the silly narrative that Sony is abandoning SP games for GaaS.

Either way, there's no argument that this reveal would have been able to make a much bigger impact in an announcement made in an official capacity, e.g. State of Play.
 

Arachnid

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You telling me Bloodborne is Shit?

This leak, is fake.
Bloodborne is hardly what comes comes to mind when you think "open map". Also, if chalice dungeons were the entire game, Bloodborne would be shit. It's the handcrafted content that makes it Bloodborne.

And yeah, I take every reddit and 4chan leak as fake. Still, the idea sounds awful. The "leaker" didn't even try to make it sound engaging.
 
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I prefer this to Uncharted and I love Uncharted. Hoping it’s true!

Speaking of uncharted, where the hell is it? Wasn't there supposedly a new studio built just to make a new uncharted game? Maybe it was fake rumours but I highly doubt sony are done with uncharted when it's one of their biggest games.
 
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yurinka

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Yall are joking right?
No, after playing Uncharted 4, Lost Legacy and TLOU 2, watching the TLOU tv show and hearing Neil Druckmann talk about 'diversity' a few years ago, and also sawing what Sony did with several other non ND IPs including one with furry characters, I think that for the time being we won't see another white male heterosexual character in a ND game.

That includes no Nate and no Joel as main characters in ND developed games, and geetting replaced by 'non-sexualized' (ugly) and pretty likely non-white or LGBT females, with maybe some (probably not white or heterosexual) male as support character.

I think Sony may ask other studios make games with Nate or Joel as main characters if upcoming ND games underperform in sales once some of their fans no longer have the "post TLOU1 hype" and "post Uncharted 4 hype" and are more aware of the ideological propaganda stuff that annoyed some of them in TLOU2 or (pretty acurate name) Lost Legacy.

Something more related to hating to see their favorite iconic characters replaced by uncharismatic bad (woke) copies of them and to not wanting to be lectured or getting propaganda on their games than being racist, sexist or lgtb phobic, because these people didn't complain in games like TLOU1, GoT etc. where there were female, lgtb or non-white folks properly portrayed with iconic characters important for the story what was there as a key part to build a great game, instead of being mediocre tokenism filler characters to fill 'inclusivity' quotas, moving the focus on making a great game to focus more on propaganda.

Speaking of uncharted, where the hell is it? Wasn't there supposedly a new studio built just to make a new uncharted game? Maybe it was fake rumours but I highly doubt sony are done with uncharted when it's one of their biggest games.
The real story behind this rumor was that some staff of Sony VASG from San Diego leaded by Michael Mumbauer started a new team by their own (without asking permission to Sony) many years ago to pitch first CG tv shows or films of PS IPs (before the current PS Productions push of making adaptations) using cutscene game assets. One of them, the main pitch was for Uncharted.

The pitches were rejected and were told to go back to make games. After that they thought about their own games because some of them were tired of being a support team, but realize that their game were mostly artists only, so thought that was going easier to get a remake greenglighted. So they started to prototype an Uncharted 1 remake reusing the assets they did for the film pitch. That was the rumored Uncharted that existed made in a new team.

They noticed that the gameplay was too updated and needed a lot of changes in game design or programming areas, so it died and wasn't greenlighted. They instead tought about making a TLOU1 remake instead because the gameplay was more modern and didn't that much changes to update it, and they could reuse some TLOU2 stuff. So they pitched it with the idea of including it bundled with a PS5 TLOU version. This is how TLOU Part I was born. At the start, they did lead the development and ND only overviewed and supported the game providing original assets etc.

Time later, in 2019 Hermen Hulst became head of PS Studios and realized that the TLOUP1 project existed. He supposedly (according to Bloomberg) didn't like the project, thought that they were had spended too much money on it and mandated to that Sony VASG to go back to their original gamedev support to complete the development of the remake, where ND now would have the lead of the project to complete it with a more reasonable budget and quality.

Mumbauer and a handful leads more of that project some time later left Sony to basically work in two projects: first to create a new IP (Ashfall) and game studio with the Syphon Filter and Days Gone creative director and second to create different company to adapt game IPs to CG films or tv shows using cutscene game assets.
 
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