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Mortal Kombat 11 female characters were purposely made less sexual according to NetherRealms.

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“Beran says his team has taken a more measured approach with the art direction in MK11. That’s especially true of the the game’s female fighters.”
“Our character lead, Brendan George, has been a breath of fresh air of just introducing new ideas. Our design is just getting more mature and respectful. You’re not going to wear a bikini to a fight. You’re not going to be showing so much skin. I think it’s just what the game is about: You’re going in to fight for your life, and you’re not going to be wearing such scantily clad items
“I’m sure that will disappoint some fans. We don’t have bathing suit fighters, and I think that’s fine. If people are disappointed, I don’t regret making that change by any means.”
Well, I guess we know what’s really going on now. I understand wanting to tone down the sexiness because you know, everyone gets so easily offended nowadays over the most trifling things, but did they go too far? Hmm......the the males are allowed to show a generous amount of skin it seems and of course you can ferociously tear the females to pieces still. Thoughts?

Those quotes.....wow. Being shirtless isn’t practical then. The men can go in shirtless battling deadly monstrosities and engage in bloody lethal battles with razor sharp weapons tearing skin though? At least make it consistent for both sides.
 
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I honestly understand where they’re coming from. They don’t want any drama especially as you said nowadays everything is offensive. So yeah, don’t care bout that as long as I’m going to get that smooth tasty animation
 

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Yeah, all in the name of the "fear of outrage".
Wonder whats next. Blood and gore taken away to protect the children.

Marks my words, keep fearing people and this gonna backfire badly. Those have never interest in buying your games.
 
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https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2019/03/netherrealm-confirms-mortal-kombat-11-females-wont-have-sexy-items-were-purposefully-de-sexualized/81034/#disqus_thread

Well, I guess we know what’s really going on now. I understand wanting to tone down the sexiness because you know, everyone gets so easily offended nowadays over the most trifling things, but did they go too far? Hmm......the the males are allowed to show a generous amount of skin it seems and of course you can ferociously tear the females to pieces still. Thoughts?
You should edit the OP to include all the direct quotes from the developer. As with most video game social issue stances lately, it's less about the game they made, and more about appointing themselves the moral arbiters of right and wrong, to the extent of insulting those who would disagree.

Not a great way to treat your customers.

[edit] Do you all remember when the gaming industry used to be the ones FIGHTING the generalizations of "sexuality = bad!"




What happened?
 
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You should edit the OP to include all the direct quotes from the developer. As with most video game social issue stances lately, it's less about the game they made, and more about appointing themselves the moral arbiters of right and wrong, to the extent of insulting those who would disagree.

Not a great way to treat your customers.
Yeah I did this from a phone. Thanks. I’ll try that.
 
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"To clarify, Beran’s insinuation about the art team targeting clothing and costumes that are more realistic for combat is not true. Keep in mind that all of the male fighters in Mortal Kombat 11 have shirtless or pantsless options, as demonstrated in the images below."

I hate SJWs :( Everything they do doesn't make any sense, like for example what i just quote.
 

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Modern women can't stand it when other women are good looking and sexy. I'm not necessarily talking just about MK here. Modern women have become dirty, unsexy and fat slobs and want to dumb down everything to their ugly levels. Just like they have taken control of the narrative. So you can't have sexy women in video games anymore either. Because the fat ugly fucking slobs can't stand that men don't want to fuck them. So they attack video games and other forms such as anime, movies etc.
 

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Trying to use the realism argument in the context of MK is utterly laughable. Gouge someone´s eyes out and split open their abdomen only for the fight to resume like nothing happened? Realism. Snarky action movie star fighting against thunder god in hell? Realism all day. Attractive women? Quit living in fantasy land.

Sexualization is ok for male characters though because yada yada power fantasy excuse.
 

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Modern women can't stand it when other women are good looking and sexy. I'm not necessarily talking just about MK here. Modern women have become dirty, unsexy and fat slobs and want to dumb down everything to their ugly levels. Just like they have taken control of the narrative. So you can't have sexy women in video games anymore either. Because the fat ugly fucking slobs can't stand that men don't want to fuck them. So they attack video games and other forms such as anime, movies etc.


Might be true for some but let's not take it overboard.
 

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You’re not going to wear a bikini to a fight.
You’re not going to be showing so much skin.
Yeah, eat this, Taliban!




Modern women can't stand it when other women are good looking and sexy
While a number (and, rather, quite a number) does, I certainly wouldn't call all women on it.
 
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A lot of these devs would be better off if they just said “this is the game we want to make” and dropped it at that. It gets really silly when the guy making a game about ripping people’s skulls out of their bodies starts to give moral lectures.

Modern women can't stand it when other women are good looking and sexy. I'm not necessarily talking just about MK here. Modern women have become dirty, unsexy and fat slobs and want to dumb down everything to their ugly levels. Just like they have taken control of the narrative. So you can't have sexy women in video games anymore either. Because the fat ugly fucking slobs can't stand that men don't want to fuck them. So they attack video games and other forms such as anime, movies etc.
Unless I am misunderstanding what you mean by “modern women” this post seems a bit extreme. There are plenty of women out there that are ok with sexy characters or simply don’t care. The group you are describing is a very small but loud group. I don’t think it’s fair to toss all women in there.
 
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Soon they'll be putting beards on the female characters and baggy clothes. Foh with this bs. I don't mind that they do it, its the reason why they are doing it that gets me mad.
 

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some of 11's female designs are absolutely excellent, and the alts are still sexy

mk9/10 designs were kinda sleazy and lazy, they knew they could do better and they did

and the faces are significantly better, more feminine

 
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I find it particularly hilarious, that even a game about literally ripping human beings apart in all the glorious details is afraid to reveal to much female skin, chuckle.
 

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I usually think to myself, could I play this in front of my wife and not look like a creepy pervert? If the answer is no, then I usually don't buy the game.
 

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I usually think to myself, could I play this in front of my wife and not look like a creepy pervert? If the answer is no, then I usually don't buy the game.
My wife likes my creepy pervert side...it allows her the freedom to have hers.
 

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So yeah... i got 2 weeks ban on that other forum for posting this link and quotes. And i even included original source which is Polygon interview. lol
In 5 minutes literally 50 members attacked me just for posting the link and quotes...

I honestly didn't even know that this site is "associated with a hate movement".
 
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So yeah... i got 2 weeks ban on that other forum for posting this link and quotes. And i even included original source which is Polygon interview. lol
In 5 minutes literally 50 members attacked me just for posting the link and quotes...
That will teach you.
/s
 

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I usually think to myself, could I play this in front of my wife and not look like a creepy pervert? If the answer is no, then I usually don't buy the game.
It's hard for me to imagine which game would qualify me as "creepy pervert" in my spouse's eyes.
I could imagine her saying that if, shit, people are torn apart alive, not seeing scantily clad women on my screen.

What is pervert about the latter, anyhow?
 

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Well, I guess we know what’s really going on now. I understand wanting to tone down the sexiness because you know, everyone gets so easily offended nowadays over the most trifling things, but did they go too far? Hmm......the the males are allowed to show a generous amount of skin it seems and of course you can ferociously tear the females to pieces still. Thoughts?

Those quotes.....wow. Being shirtless isn’t practical then. The men can go in shirtless battling deadly monstrosities and engage in bloody lethal battles with razor sharp weapons tearing skin though? At least make it consistent for both sides.
Why did they say this even? It's going to piss off people more than anything else who probably wouldn't have noticed otherwise.
Also Mortal Kombat is being toned down for the first time in it's long history? The game series that was partly responsible for bringing in Age ratings across the world?
I'm sorry this isn't a good look for them. Know your audience.
 

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This is a fighting game with stupid and brutal attacks that brake every bone in the body, but you can still fight as if everything was fine. Extremely credible.
However, it is important to have the characters wear "credible" outfits. What a joke.

I don't like the design changes they made to the series. I already did not like MK 10, this is pretty much the same thing here.
 
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I usually think to myself, could I play this in front of my wife and not look like a creepy pervert? If the answer is no, then I usually don't buy the game.
The game has gore, fatalities and still people worry more about pervert?
I mean, woman can't be pervert too?
 
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The sanctimonious or hypocritical attitude of Western developers these days seems to be, if you are disappointed in our direction, too bad. It’s fine going into a new direction, but don’t have double standards when it comes to your decisions. I’m almost getting a bf5 and new tomb raider vibes from this.
 
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"How dare this developer make up their own mind about the way they choose to portray women! We only defend a developer's artistic decisions when they validate our bias."

There is so much mental gymnastics going on that it boggles the mind.

Some common misconceptions about moves like this:
1. Not putting a woman in a bikini while she fights is not the same as being afraid of sexuality.
2. Not putting a woman in a bikini while she fights does not automatically make that woman ugly or plain.
3. Not putting a woman in a bikini while she fights does not mean that developers don't want to make their female characters attractive.
4. Putting a woman in a bikini while she fights with YOU being okay with it does not somehow make you more enlightened and less sexist.
5. Knowing women who are okay with women fighting in bikinis does not make YOU right when you rail against a perceived SJW agenda.
6. Fighting tooth and nail for your right to enjoy female dolls designed for your amusement is not somehow better simply because it conforms with what used to be the status quo.

Get used to change, haters. If you want to be genuine about your shock, you're going to have to choose a more substantive side to stand on because defending artistic choice only when it means you get to see boobs doesn't hold water.
 

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Hope they've put more effort into enhancing the fighting animation to compensate that. Because I think that should be their #1 priority instead of this.
 

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I haven found any female character fun to play in MK since Mortal Kombat 2.

They have change that, Jade is Awesome, like Skarlet.........Outfit are just an accesory. The point should be that, bikinis were a form to make a female character fun to play, but again, thats just an accesory.
 

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make up their own mind
Is making up "your own mind" when enlightened one show you the path is still called "making up own mind"?
Seriously, I'm curious.

1. Not putting a woman in a bikini while she fights is not the same as being afraid of sexuality.
They weren't in bikinis to begin with.
Devs were so focused on hiding skin, models look like designed in Saudi Arabia, a place where the following laws apply, mind you.

5. Knowing women who are okay with women fighting in bikinis does not make YOU right when you rail against a perceived SJW agenda.
Abstract "you" should not have someone's blessing to define for you what is right and what is not, what a ridiculous concept.
Some random woman has no ultimate say over how human beings that happen to be of the same sex as her, can or cannot be depicted in games.
The same applies to random men deciding for entire planet how it is OK to depict men.

Get used to change...
To sex negative folks ruling the world. Yeah.
It sucks though.
 
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some of 11's female designs are absolutely excellent, and the alts are still sexy

mk9/10 designs were kinda sleazy and lazy, they knew they could do better and they did

and the faces are significantly better, more feminine
Very low bar



The only female in the whole of MK11 that actually looks good is the new and improved Cassie Cage. Best looking woman they ever portrayed, it's almost like a miraculous accident they did not mean.
As a matter of fact, they could make every woman in MK11 completely naked and it wouldn't make any difference, because they figured out the best way to kill any fanservice debate is to give them ugly faces.
 

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For game that literally features all the blood and gore, you would think whether or not characters wearing skimpy and sexy outfits would be of very little concern. These games are intentionally over-the-top and stylish as fuck. There's some real cognitive dissonance there.

Whatever man, MK 11 is looking really good, just hope NetherRealm Studios won't start trying to appease the wrong crowds.
 
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They can decide that if they want. And I can decide not to support that and give my money to some other company.
However, the sooner devs understand that their customers are not the ones complaining the sooner they may be able to steer away from that silly direction games are being led to.
 

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"How dare this developer make up their own mind about the way they choose to portray women! We only defend a developer's artistic decisions when they validate our bias."
Who are you quoting?

Some common misconceptions about moves like this:
1. Not putting a woman in a bikini while she fights is not the same as being afraid of sexuality.
2. Not putting a woman in a bikini while she fights does not automatically make that woman ugly or plain.
3. Not putting a woman in a bikini while she fights does not mean that developers don't want to make their female characters attractive.
4. Putting a woman in a bikini while she fights with YOU being okay with it does not somehow make you more enlightened and less sexist.
5. Knowing women who are okay with women fighting in bikinis does not make YOU right when you rail against a perceived SJW agenda.
6. Fighting tooth and nail for your right to enjoy female dolls designed for your amusement is not somehow better simply because it conforms with what used to be the status quo.

Get used to change, haters. If you want to be genuine about your shock, you're going to have to choose a more substantive side to stand on because defending artistic choice only when it means you get to see boobs doesn't hold water.
It boils down to this. Why is it ok for shirtless men to be seen in games but not women?
Why is it only sexualised when it's women?
I can understand your point in another game series but in Mortal Kombat everyone is a tough character, it's a fighting game where everyone has always been balanced man or woman. I think it says more about you when you have a problem with the clothes the women wear in the game

Also man your post was really hard to read what's with all the double negatives and the jargon.
"haters?" Really?
 

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I cannot support "ultra violence but no sexy time tee hee thats bad" its just stupid

Censor everything (not that I want that but I'd at least respect it).....or nothing at all
 
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"Our design is just getting more mature and respectful."

That's the funniest thing I'll read all day. This guy is billing his "watch organs explode & faces rip off" game as "mature and respectful." What a joke of a human being. I can't believe these people take their work seriously.
 

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I usually think to myself, could I play this in front of my wife and not look like a creepy pervert? If the answer is no, then I usually don't buy the game.
And if a sex scene comes up in a movie you both watch, you leave the room or just cover your eyes?

Can't believe people marriages look like that, living adult life like a teen boy hiding porn stash from mom.
 
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"How dare this developer make up their own mind about the way they choose to portray women! We only defend a developer's artistic decisions when they validate our bias."

There is so much mental gymnastics going on that it boggles the mind.

Some common misconceptions about moves like this:
1. Not putting a woman in a bikini while she fights is not the same as being afraid of sexuality.
2. Not putting a woman in a bikini while she fights does not automatically make that woman ugly or plain.
3. Not putting a woman in a bikini while she fights does not mean that developers don't want to make their female characters attractive.
4. Putting a woman in a bikini while she fights with YOU being okay with it does not somehow make you more enlightened and less sexist.
5. Knowing women who are okay with women fighting in bikinis does not make YOU right when you rail against a perceived SJW agenda.
6. Fighting tooth and nail for your right to enjoy female dolls designed for your amusement is not somehow better simply because it conforms with what used to be the status quo.

Get used to change, haters. If you want to be genuine about your shock, you're going to have to choose a more substantive side to stand on because defending artistic choice only when it means you get to see boobs doesn't hold water.
A bit of of a far reach here.

I haven’t play MK since the arcades, but I can see how a long lived franchise builds a fan base with certain expectations. Build it for your fans, be loyal because the fans are loyal to you. Change things, and kick them to boot...it’s just not right.

Work on something new if you want something different.