Bernd Lauert
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Nope they're not. It needs to be explicit, otherwise it's too ambiguous to count as anything close to a guarantee.
And they did address exclusivity. CoD won't be exclusive to Xbox.
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Microsoft: Call of Duty and other popular AB games will continue to be released on PlayStation and Nintendo platforms beyond current agreements
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And they did address exclusivity. CoD won't be exclusive to Xbox.
Ass of Can Whooping
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It's a guarantee. This post has gone through lawyers. They're going not going to be intentionally vague with the FTC about COD exclusivity.
Negotiator101
Member
The sheer IP power that Microsoft will own after the Activision deal goes through, as well as Zenimax is incredibly attractive to gamers and cannot be denied. If Microsoft chose the route (and it looks unlikely currently) of only allowing these IP's on its competitors platform through them using Gamepass then its a powerful persuader.
Microsoft has the superior IP's in terms of popularity, superior knowledge and infrastructure and financial backing to make a service of this kind successful. It would bring more gamers to Playstation and more Gamepass, it's a win win for everyone.
DJ12
Member
As one of the most prolific xbox warriors (pre ban) on this forum, I think you'll need it more than most.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
There's that lol emoji I love to see.
We've established that you think MS is misleading regulators. Now we just wait and see
Leyasu
Banned
Of course it was lol
If there’s anything that Microsoft would want from Sony I think that it would be their inevitable pc ports on their (Microsoft’s) pc store.
I don’t believe that one bungo franchise is enough.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
You say lol-worthy things, you get an emoji. If you think MS is misleading regulators, you're out of your mind. As I said, promises made, promises kept.
Amazon had AWS before Azure. AWS was/is bigger than Azure.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
You're the one that thinks they're misleading them LMAO
Bo_Hazem
Banned
If they do that FTC will intervene as well against Sony, pushing more than 30%. They'll just use that marketing money for other titles, mostly their own FPS games going forward, that's more than enough to do.
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DJ12
Member
I think he saw Brads fingers crossed behind his back during the video.
assurdum
Banned
Honest question: aside COD, Elder Scroll and even Fallout, how the others IPs, gained via MS acquisition, can be considered superior in terms of popularity compared the sony ones, if they sold less for years? I don't follow you, superior in what?
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Mikey Jr.
Member
Long term? Nahhh. Don't have money I can lose tbh and not a lot I can play with
This was more if of a "hey, I can make an extra $100 from this".
Obviously Sony stock will bounce back.
Same way Bitcoin always bounces back.
I buy Bitcoin at 30k and sell at 45-50k.
I usually make around $100 to $150. But it's usually a sure bet. Not a lot of money obviously, but for me, it's a free ps5 game every few months.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Nope. There's nothing misleading about their statements.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Regulators: Will COD be exclusive to Xbox?
MS: COD will be available on PS beyond contractual agreements
MS: COD 2024 exclusively on Xbox and Gamepass
Regulators: I thought COD wasn't going to be exclusive?
MS: It's not. Warzone 2 is still playable on PS
This is record stupidity for you Bern
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Bernd Lauert
Banned
More like:Regulators: Will COD be exclusive to Xbox?
MS: COD will be available on PS beyond contractual agreements
MS: COD 2024 exclusively on Xbox and Gamepass
Regulators: I thought COD wasn't going to be exclusive?
MS: It's not. Warzone 2 is still playable on PS
This is record stupidity for you Bern
Regulators: COD exclusive?
MS: Nah.
That's it. Everything else is to be seen.
assurdum
Banned
I crossed my fingers for you. I bet there is a "catch" for COD and the others IPs multiplat. I don't know where are come suddenly all this faith for the MS words; they can easily turn around their words if it's convenient for themRegulators: Will COD be exclusive to Xbox?
MS: COD will be available on PS beyond contractual agreements
MS: COD 2024 exclusively on Xbox and Gamepass
Regulators: I thought COD wasn't going to be exclusive?
MS: It's not. Warzone 2 is still playable on PS
This is record stupidity for you Bern
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Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
So basically a lie then?
Did you put your head in a fryer when you were banned? You're honestly saying the dumbest shit right now
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
It's really simple. They're trying to be clear and open with the FTC. Any "catch" in this post that they're not openly stating is them misleading the FTC
The question you have to ask yourself at that point is, will MS do that?
assurdum
Banned
It's not misleading if they would want release their games just via Gamepass for multiplat. Will see I guess. But until that, I really skeptical.
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Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Regulators asking MS why COD is exclusive and them responding with "because Sony refused to allow gamepass" would not fly. At all. That's textbook anti-trust and they'd be openly admitting it
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assurdum
Banned
Based to what law?
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Anti-trust law?
assurdum
Banned
Oh there is antitrust law which impose how some games should be released in the market? Let's say absurdly it cost too much to MS release their games via the traditional market and it's not convenient economically, how antitrust can oblige them?
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Yoboman
Member
Its called product tying
assurdum
Banned
Read above.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
There are laws in place meant to stop the likes of MS from buying up companies so that they can coerce their competitors, yes.
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assurdum
Banned
It's worked well with Disney. As I said, I'll believe it when I'll see.
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Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
A lot of companies do it. Doesn't mean it'd work for MS if they openly admit it to the FTC
Bernd Lauert
Banned
It's not a lie. You're just reaching. Feel free to stop.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Regulators: COD exclusive?
MS: Nah.
MS: Releases COD 2024 exclusively
That's a lie. Go back to school bernd
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PropellerEar
Member
What's wrong with value? Why is everyone on here a console fanboy? What a silly response to having value for gamers
Clearly not worth to reply to you, but I have something for dense cope value marketers...
Fredrik
Member
The backdrop is nice but it’s a seriously messy desk lol, it is what it is.
I definitely plan to play Starfield on the PC anyway, it’s how I play all Bethesda games, the mod community is too active to ignore and first person works best with mouse and keyboard. But I would need a living room PC to be satisfied playing Horizon Forbidden West, God of War 2, Gears 6, etc on PC. I just hate playing third person games best played with a controller on my current PC setup, it’s why I still play so many Xbox games on XSX instead of PC.
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Bernd Lauert
Banned
COD, the franchise. Not every single game that will ever come out.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Concealing information is a form of lying, Bernd
Yoboman
Member
What you said made no sense
Lognor
Banned
Talk about pathetic. Look at yourself! You still think starfield will come to ps. You bought into the "pr bullshit " last time age you're doing it again. Holy shit. Fool me once...
You're clearly not the brightest
ChuckeRearmed
Member
So? The question was about why Microsoft reached 2T+ market cap and I answered it was mainly due to Azure and probably Office.
Ass of Can Whooping
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Post where i think Starfield will 100% come to PS or drop the clown act already
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FrankWza
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The bungie acquisition was in the works for months and the negotiating included them staying multiplat. At least with destiny.
assurdum
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Indeed expect they will release all the COD and the other major IPs in all platforms without Gamepass access, after they spent 63 billions, has tons of more sense lol and just because they did a vague statement without specify in what way such games will be available.
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Negotiator101
Member
At it again I see.
Swift_Star
Banned
Xbox fans aren’t even trying to pretend all they want is to see Sony crash and burn anymore. The amount of salt seen now that they realized it isn’t the case and MS is not set to destroy PlayStation is REALLY amusing.
It’s really funny to see the same people now trying to twist MS own words against them. So, now they’re lying but they weren’t before? Sorry, green guys, CoD will keep being multiplat, potentially crash and Spyro too.
It’s really funny to see the same people now trying to twist MS own words against them. So, now they’re lying but they weren’t before? Sorry, green guys, CoD will keep being multiplat, potentially crash and Spyro too.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Can, come on don't be so naive.
Why else would they use such carefully worded yet incredibly vague language in that press release ? Clearly they didn't go into specifics deliberately.
Swift_Star
Banned
Now they’re being pretty clear on what they mean. Why y’all still trying to pretend it isn’t so? Wishful thinking I guess.
Yoboman
Member
As has been repeated to you, they literally cannot force gamepass on to COD on other systems as a requirement. That is product tying and is 100% an anti trust issue
What Are the Elements of a Per Se Illegal Tying Claim Under the Antitrust Laws? - Bona Law
When a seller requires buyers to purchase a second product or service as a condition of obtaining a first product...
www.bonalaw.com
They can offer gamepass as an option if Sony allows it on the system, in addition to selling it in the manner it is now. They can't force Gamepass in - that is the coercion element of product tying
You seem either very young or your English skills aren't up to snuff so maybe I'm just talking to a brick wall here
Lognor
Banned
Hedging i see. Fine. I'll do it too so you can't say I'm wrong. Cod will not stay on ps (but it might). Now if it does stay on ps I was never wrong.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
They did go into specifics. You lot just don't want to read it
laynelane
Member
A lot of your points are subjective. Again, how would it financially benefit Sony to have GamePass on their platform when they already have their own subs and are creating new ones?