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[ikbalCO]

I hope this deal is never approved. If anything Sony should be the one that buys Activision.

How about noone buys the biggest publisher in the market?

 

[reksveks]

Do we think we are getting any news today?

 

[feynoob]

Do we think we are getting any news today?

Maybe.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Do we think we are getting any news today?

 

[IFireflyl]

Endgame? That must mean some sort of agreement?

 

[adamsapple]

Man, I go on a vacation for a few weeks and the discourse is still exactly the same as before ..

we need to

 

[mansoor1980]

Right next to the quote you can see a special name

Cerny!

B2T

Is there a time limit / dead line for the Activision purchase ? If yes, does the purchase fail automatically or what happens?

 

[feynoob]

Man, I go on a vacation for a few weeks and the discourse is still exactly the same as before ..

we need to

 

[Heisenberg007]

Man, I go on a vacation for a few weeks and the discourse is still exactly the same as before ..

we need to

P.S. Wasn't a vacation though

 

[Riky]

Man, I go on a vacation for a few weeks and the discourse is still exactly the same as before ..

we need to

Welcome home

 

[Topher]

Man, I go on a vacation for a few weeks and the discourse is still exactly the same as before ..

we need to

 

[Three]

Endgame? That must mean some sort of agreement?

It just means EC would need to have made a decision soon

 

[GHG]

Man, I go on a vacation for a few weeks and the discourse is still exactly the same as before ..

we need to

Man said vacation as if it was voluntary.

 

[adamsapple]

Man said vacation as if it was voluntary.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Man, I go on a vacation for a few weeks and the discourse is still exactly the same as before ..

we need to

Not until this deal does.

Also what vacation? Did you really asked to be banned for a month?

 

[Heisenberg007]

Nvm

 

[jm89]

Not until this deal does.

Also what vacation? Did you really asked to be banned for a month?

*mandatory vacation

 

[DeepEnigma]

I hope this deal is never approved. If anything Sony should be the one that buys Activision.

Agreed. No.

 

[Elios83]

I hope this deal is never approved. If anything Sony should be the one that buys Activision.

No one should buy it. The company can absolutely stand on its own legs being a multiplatform publisher.
It doesn't need to be sold to be used as a tool to buy a dominant position in the market or just to make Kotick, Lulu and crew even richer.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

n

No one should buy it. The company can absolutely stand on its own legs being a multiplatform publisher.
It doesn't need to be sold to be used as a tool to buy a dominant position in the market or just to make Kotick, Lulu and crew even richer.

no, it can't

 

[Heisenberg007]

n

no, it can't

Yes, it can. It is self-sustainable. Xbox isn't spending $70 billion on a dying company.

Activision makes $8 billion in revenue and $2 billion in profits. That's likely more profit than the Xbox division itself. Activision is the biggest third-party publisher. If ABK can't survive, no other independent publisher can.

 

[solidus12]

Lulu is Jez's girlfriend.

That can’t be true.
Here’s a picture of Jez and his significant other crying over this deal:

 

[ToTTenTranz]

n

no, it can't

Activision Blizzard | Quarterly Results

The Investor Relations website contains information about Activision Blizzard's business for stockholders, potential investors, and financial analysts.

investor.activision.com

Activision-Blizzard got a yearly net income (i.e. profits) of $2.2B in the year 2020, and $2.7B in the year 2021.

For a total 9800 employees, this means the company is profiting $275 000 per employee. As a comparison, Microsoft has 221 000 employees and posted $70B in profits, meaning it's profiting $316 000 per employee.


Somehow, some people are actually convinced that ATVI will wither and die if this deal doesn't go through, despite Microsoft not having a significantly better earnings/costs structure.
The levels of misinformation being forced into some heads is astounding.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Yes, it can. It is self-sustainable. Xbox isn't spending $70 billion on a dying company.

Activision makes $8 billion in revenue and $2 billion in profits. That's likely more profit than the Xbox division itself. Activision is the biggest third-party publisher. If ABK can't survive, no other independent publisher can.

my comment was deleted when i have supported my points of view with shit ton of information and examples.

I make these short comments with a purpose:

if the individual wants to engagae (like this very reply ) i will engage in conversation. if people decide to ignore them, its ok. You can think of as an invitation. because having these conversations is time consuming.


my reply to Heisy:
As i have already exemplify many times. These AAA Devs/Publishers despite making tons of profit. their modus operandi is fucked up.

is about disruption to the status quo.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

http://[URL]https://investor.activision.com/financial-information/quarterly-results

[/URL]

Activision-Blizzard got a yearly net income (i.e. profits) of $2.2B in the year 2020, and $2.7B in the year 2021.

For a total 9800 employees, this means the company is profiting $275 000 per employee. As a comparison, Microsoft has 221 000 employees and posted $70B in profits, meaning it's profiting $316 000 per employee.


Somehow, some people are actually convinced that ATVI will wither and die if this deal doesn't go through, despite Microsoft not having a significantly better earnings/costs structure.
The levels of misinformation being forced into some heads is astounding.

is not about that.

 

[DeepEnigma]

is about disruption to the status quo.

Yes. The race to the bottom to solely stand on the embers.

 

[Schmick]

Why did this .gif make me laugh?

 

[ToTTenTranz]

is not about that.

Only snake-oil buyers believe a private and for-profit company's survival and growth doesn't depend on its financial success.

So if you believe in that, I have a bridge to sell you.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Only snake-oil buyers believe a private and for-profit company's survival and growth doesn't depend on its financial success.

So if you believe in that, I have a bridge to sell you.

and what is driving this financial succes?

 

[IFireflyl]

my comment was deleted when i have supported my points of view with shit ton of information and examples.

I make these short comments with a purpose:

if the individual wants to engagae (like this very reply ) i will engage in conversation. if people decide to ignore them, its ok. You can think of as an invitation. because having these conversations is time consuming.


my reply to Heisy:
As i have already exemplify many times. These AAA Devs/Publishers despite making tons of profit. their modus operandi is fucked up.

is about disruption to the status quo.

You do not make intelligent posts.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

You do not make intelligent posts.

oh. just like everyone else.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

https://www.purexbox.com/news/2023/...t-of-us-can-help-justify-the-xbox-acquisition

Activision Blizzard Thinks Sony's 'The Last Of Us' Can Help Justify The Xbox Acquisition​

The talk of the TV world right now is undoubtedly Sony and HBO's The Last Of Us series, which has drawn massive attention through its first few episodes — and even Xbox's Phil Spencer has been loving it!

However, Activision Blizzard seems to think this success could actually work against Sony when it comes to Xbox's attempted takeover of the company behind Call of Duty. Lulu Cheng Meservey, EVP of Corporate Affairs and CCO at Activision Blizzard, had some interesting comments to share about this on social media yesterday.

In a Twitter thread, Meservey explained that the FTC appears to be worried that "Sony’s position as market leader could be jeopardized by this deal", but she thinks there's no reason for concern because "Sony has an unrivaled warchest of IP, not just in gaming but TV, movies, and music", as evidenced by The Last Of Us.

Here's the full set of comments from yesterday:

"Hi FTC — did you catch last night’s episode of The Last of Us? It was incredible. No wonder the show is breaking records. It’s a true blockbuster, watched by tens of millions. If you haven’t already, you should check it out. You may be particularly interested in the fact that The Last of Us is produced by Sony Pictures Television and PlayStation Productions. It’s based on a best-selling video game developed by a Sony-owned studio and published by Sony as a PlayStation exclusive."

"Why does this matter? The FTC has opposed the Microsoft - Activision Blizzard deal on the grounds that Microsoft could “suppress competition” from rival consoles by leveraging Activision games. It sounds like there’s some worry that Sony’s position as market leader could be jeopardized by this deal."

"But there’s no cause for concern. Sony has an unrivaled warchest of IP, not just in gaming but TV, movies, and music — which can be developed into games, or can market existing games. Case in point: the TV show The Last of Us is already generating renewed interest in that game."

"Sony’s talent and IP across gaming, TV, movies, and music are formidable and truly impressive. It’s no wonder they also continue to dominate as the market leader for consoles. In gaming, Sony is 'the first of us' - and they will be just fine without the FTC’s protection."

Meservey's comments are in direct response to the US Federal Trade Commission, which has filed a lawsuit against Microsoft's attempt takeover of Activision Blizzard. The FTC's decision drew a lot of criticism from Activision Blizzard late last year, with the company stating the FTC had "lost sight of realities of the competitive gaming industry".

There's seemingly a long road ahead for Microsoft, Xbox, Activision Blizzard and the FTC, but we're still hopeful a resolution can be found in 2023 (maybe even in the first half of the year), but expect a bumpy ride until we get there.

 

[Heisenberg007]

You do not make intelligent posts.

On the contrary, I've always found that ChorizoPicozo posts insightful and logical stuff. It's only this point of his about the ABK acquisition that I don't understand and agree with.

 

[IFireflyl]

On the contrary, I've always found that ChorizoPicozo posts insightful and logical stuff. It's only this point of his about the ABK acquisition that I don't understand and agree with.

To be fair, that's all I have really responded to him on.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

and what is driving this financial succes?

I just posted a link to ATVI's earnings reports. You can check that for yourself.

Go check it out and come back when you find all those income dollars referring to disruption of the status quo.

 

[feynoob]

https://www.purexbox.com/news/2023/...t-of-us-can-help-justify-the-xbox-acquisition

We had that clown here. She needs a reality check.

 

[harry mason 1989]

We had that clown here. She needs a reality check.

I really think this deal will be approved
But the way this women and other xbox shills are actin on twitter
I have feelings that they know something behind the scenes that the deal will be off

 

[MasterCornholio]

*mandatory vacation

 

[bender]

P.S. Wasn't a vacation though

It was for us.

 

[Pelta88]

https://www.purexbox.com/news/2023/...t-of-us-can-help-justify-the-xbox-acquisition

Gaf > Internet > Gaf

And they wont even cite us lol

 

[MasterCornholio]

I really think this deal will be approved
But the way this women and other xbox shills are actin on twitter
I have feelings that they know something behind the scenes that the deal will be off

Maybe Microsoft doesn't like some of the concessions that they have to make. Doesn't mean it won't get approved but they would be happier if they didn't have to make them. I'm not sure if there's a way to fight concessions that are demanded from them.

 

[gothmog]

https://www.purexbox.com/news/2023/...t-of-us-can-help-justify-the-xbox-acquisition

This is why many companies try to mandate that high level employees work through a PR liaison that controls their official social media presence.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

It’s interesting that people on Twitter are trying to sell the whole Sony is so big, it’s “the first of us” etc etc when in reality it’s Microsoft vs Sony and Microsoft is bigger than Sony.

Xbox didn’t have 8 billion laying around for Bethesda and sure as hell doesn’t have 70
for Activision.

 

[NickFire]

It’s interesting that people on Twitter are trying to sell the whole Sony is so big, it’s “the first of us” etc etc when in reality it’s Microsoft vs Sony and Microsoft is bigger than Sony.

Xbox didn’t have 8 billion laying around for Bethesda and sure as hell doesn’t have 70
for Activision.

When throwing shit against a wall, there's no need to separate the corn and nuts from the rest. Just throw it all up there for the influencers to enjoy and repeat.

 

[DeepEnigma]

https://www.purexbox.com/news/2023/...t-of-us-can-help-justify-the-xbox-acquisition

The smell of desperation. This is pure juvenile levels of retort.

 

[NickFire]

The smell of desperation. This is pure juvenile levels of retort.

The claims of protecting Sonys market share crack me up the rest. Umm, no influencers. Every gamer stands to lose from consolidation and foreclosure. Just look how run of the mill Gold subscribers are treated now with these pittance offerings. If they’ll treat their own customers that way for not subbing to GP, then how on earth are we supposed to believe the average consumer will benefit at all from this transaction?

 

[Matsuchezz]

Why is that?

I was joking I really don't care

 

[Matsuchezz]

That's equally bad.

I hope no one buys these big publishers with big IPs and they remain independent and continue to publish their popular games on all consoles.

This will create equal opportunities across all platforms and for all companies, and the only way to get ahead for these companies would be to best use their resources and studios to produce better-quality games than the other company.

Yes, that sucks. Neither should be able to buy such big publishers.

 

[Bonsaibäumchen]

Why would you try to console war?
If you wernt around when the specs were released and the shit storm that followed then I don't know what to tell you.

I remember quite well how all xbox fans were shouting like they won only to be floored once the games released and the consoles were compared against each other.

Because instead of showing a huge performance difference both consoles are operating nearly identical. So there no winner to this at all.

But you are free to believe xbox somehow won this gen or at least the spec wars.

 

[TheGodfather07]

Man, I go on a vacation for a few weeks and the discourse is still exactly the same as before ..

we need to

Be a bit more careful, so that vacation doesn't become permanent.