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[Shambala]

Phils getting cooked

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Yes.

I would say that's a smoking gun, especially considering just yesterday someone else (Booty, was it), said for the judge to look at Minecraft as how they'd handle COD going forward.

AKA if ABK makes no contract stipulation to be multiplatform console-wise in order to be purchased, Microsoft could 100% remove it from PlayStation the day after the deal goes through.

And while other regulators like the CMA & EC have said partial foreclosure on console would not be too big an issue, they never said that about complete foreclosure.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

is going to be very interesting to listen to what Jim has to say....and the way he speaks.

 

[Thirty7ven]

well nm then lol

It's running the PS4 version via back compat. It's not the same as the Xbox Series version.

 

[Ogbert]

Fucking hell.

If we’re telling people off for not optimising games, can we get From Software in front of the FTC.

 

[wolffy66]

T

his post is shameful

I hope this is sarcasm.

It's not

 

[jm89]

is going to be very interesting to listen to what Jim has to say....and the way he speaks.

Was done in private.

 

[Ar¢tos]

This post is shameful

It's another alt. Joined in 2014 but only has 100 posts...

 

[Poltz]

Here we go COD on Switch.

 

[Thirty7ven]

"Equal or better to other Switch games"

Dude in the stream goes bananas because he thinks he meant equal as Xbox. School people, school.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Was done in private.

i know. still we shuld be able to listen to that right?

 

[Solidus_T]

Phil swiftly proved the FTC's point that the acquisition spree is specifically to remove games from PlayStation.

 

[adamsapple]

Starfield PS5 exclusive rumor true

Starfield was going to be playstation exclusive

wow, missed these posts before.

Imran Khan was right all along.

 

[jroc74]

Oh shit. This is a lot of dirt.

Phil regrets Minecraft multiplatform's existence (because of the contract). "I need us to find ways [to make Minecraft exclusive]". Conversation between PHil Spencer / Matt Booty / and one other unknow person.

So there is an actual part of the contract to keep Minecraft multi platform....well now.

I remember getting into debates about this.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

It's not

That's too bad........

.....for you.

 

[tmlDan]

Fucking hell.

If we’re telling people off for not optimising games, can we get From Software in front of the FTC.

id be down for that lol

 

[Dr_Ifto]

Man, when Jim Ryan gets his session, the spice is gonna flow.

 

[jm89]

i know. still we shuld be able to listen to that right?

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Fucking hell.

If we’re telling people off for not optimising games, can we get From Software in front of the FTC.

I wouldn't be against that lol.

 

[Topher]

It's not

It is. These are all multinational corporations. You want me to show you the world map for Azure?

 

[Nydius]

FTC lawyers doing a bang up job establishing the pattern of behavior of Microsoft buying things with the express intent of removing (or hindering) them from other platforms. And Phil is just handing them all the ammunition on a platter.

Best predictor of future behavior is past behavior, and all that.

 

[wolffy66]

That's too bad for you.

I'll just have to disagree I guess

 

[Mr Moose]

I was today years old that I learned MicroSoft created MineCraft.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

i mean, the same happend at the jack sparrow's trial.

 

[DeepEnigma]

So... Microsoft didn't optimize Minecraft for PlayStation 5 out of spite because PlayStation delayed the delivery of devkits.

What about Psychonauts 2?

 

[Spyxos]

Why is it live? What is happening?

 

[graywolf323]

And I was joking saying we're lucky Minecraft is still multi platform.

Cot dayum....

remember how all the fanboys like to point out Minecraft as proof that Xbox would keep things multi platform? well ends up it’s only because they’re legally obligated to because of the contract they signed when they bought it from Notch…

meanwhile they’re perfectly happy to renegotiate contracts with oh say Disney and make things like Indiana Jones exclusive or just flat out cancel other versions of games like Redfall & Starfield

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

We're back to CoD on Switch.

 

[Thirty7ven]

IT will not look the same. They should even press on the ability for Switch version to be cross play compatible with Series.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

wow, missed these posts before.

Imran Khan was right all along.

So there was a Starfield ps5 deal? How did they violate the contract then?

 

[F0rneus]

Phil swiftly proved the FTC's point that the acquisition spree is specifically to remove games from PlayStation.

And like I said, I 100% believe that Sony will try that same shit with most likely SE or Capcom. And I hope that fails too.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

I'll just have to disagree I guess

You'll also have to hold a fat 'L' while at it :/

 

[Astray]

It's EA with Sega/Dreamcast all over again. Gaming history just loves to repeat itself sometimes (a lot of times).

Sony had to deal with their own version of this when Kotick threatened to drop the PS3 if a price cut didn't happen.

It isn't something you can't survive.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

To be honest, they did ship the Ori Collection on Switch, and that runs at 60fps on it as well. Had to get the physical for it due to that (they're great games too)!

 

[adamsapple]

FTC getting details wrong

So there was a Starfield ps5 deal? How did they violate the contract then?

Who violated what contract ?

 

[Elios83]

Phil swiftly proved the FTC's point that the acquisition spree is specifically to remove games from PlayStation.

Yes he basically admitted the goal is to make everything they can exclusive.

 

[Heisenberg007]

This is also interesting.

MS hasn't done any strategical or financial analysis on how Call of Duty game will do on Nintendo, yet they have made a promise. Earlier, Phil was saying that they do analysis for each content before deciding which platform to ship on (implying that PS5 can be a part of ABK content in the future).

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Who violated what contract ?

You suggested that Sony had a Starfield ps5 exclusive deal

 

[X-Wing]

Now Fallout 76. Joining PS Now / PS Plus.

"We have not allowed Minecraft on PS Now because that competes with Game Pass." -- Phil Spencer. [slight paraphrasing maybe}

This is where I feel like that the lawyer is failing. Here he could have just said that at that point PS Now only had 3 million subscribers while Gamepass had what, 20 million? So Microsoft had a leading position.

 

[Crispy Gamer]

Sony not giving you a dev kit hurts your ability to compete? Why do you need to have access to Sony's hardware to know what YOU want to build for developers in a next-gen console? Shouldn't you instinctively have a good idea of what devs will need, being a platform holder for 2 decades in this business?

Goodness gracious

That's how they found out about ps4 pro so Sony decided not to make that mistake again with PS5

 

[adamsapple]

You suggested that Sony had a Starfield ps5 exclusive deal

When did I suggest that ?

 

[Kittehkraken]

Microsoft should be shamed industry wide for wanting to make Minecraft exclusive.

 

[Topher]

FTC getting details wrong






Who violated what contract ?

What details are wrong?

 

[DeepEnigma]

This is also interesting.

MS hasn't done any strategical or financial analysis on how Call of Duty game will do on Nintendo, yet they have made a promise. Earlier, Phil was saying that they do analysis for each content before deciding which platform to ship on (implying that PS5 can be a part of ABK content in the future).

Double speak in the same Q&A.

 

[Kvally]

I was today years old that I learned MicroSoft created MineCraft.

Mojang created Minecraft. Mojang is an Xbox Game Studio.

 

[Poltz]

Zenimax roundtable now being discussed.

 

[Bernoulli]

exclusive games that ship where gamepass is

 

[Heisenberg007]

Zenimax roundtable now being discussed.

Spicy.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Sony had to deal with their own version of this when Kotick threatened to drop the PS3 if a price cut didn't happen.

It isn't something you can't survive.

Well, Sega didn't survive it (no EA support hurt them with Dreamcast contributing to leaving as a platform holder), and the only reason Sony survived it was because they had to radically change their corporate structure as a whole, else they were going to shut down PlayStation (or at least spin them off to a buyer).

Though FWIW Sony's situation with PS3 was not primarily over any threats Activision made, and I guess that could be said similarly for Sega with EA when it came to the Dreamcast. Just two publishers taking advantage of a situation.

 

[adamsapple]

What details are wrong?

I think Derek is referring 'withholding Minecraft' and FO76 from PS Now.