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[Rufus]

Good thing he's a natural born leader and an icon,

By virtue of being controlled (and written) by Conrad Verners.

Gah, don't remind me of her. There was absolutely no logical reason why choosing Samara over her would give you Paragon points.

I don't like the whole points business, but choosing anyone over the serial killer seems pretty consistent with the system. You could argue that the concept of judge and executioner that the justicars embody is pretty twisted as well, but I guess her motivations speak in favor of her.
Does the game ever explore the concept of the justicars? I don't remember.

 

[Snuggles]

Samara talks about the Justicars with you on the Normandy and the blue chick in her recruitment mission gives you a run down on them as well.

It's nothing that interesting, though. They're just like mercenaries with some silly code that they have to follow.

 

[Firestorm]

"The Seatle/Vancouver megacity on the west coast of North America is a truly gigantic space which Shepard will visit before and after the Reapers take it apart."

"If you Google Map Vancouver the layout is pretty much the exact same as our map" says Level Artist Don Arceta. "Geographically it's very true to the real world"

HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT BUY PURCHASE DAY ONE HYPE AHHHHHHHHHHHH

am i late to this

 

[Fimbulvetr]

They're just like mercenaries with some silly code that they have to follow.

Not really.

Mercenary implies they are working for people with the promise of being paid.

They're more like vigilantes.

 

[Kinyou]

I don't like the whole points business, but choosing anyone over the serial killer seems pretty consistent with the system. You could argue that the concept of judge and executioner that the justicars embody is pretty twisted as well, but I guess her motivations speak in favor of her.
Does the game ever explore the concept of the justicars? I don't remember.

But choosing Morinth also seemed like a stupid move for renegades, why choose an unpredictable serial killer over a Justicar that has made an oath to serve you no matter what you do?

I think Bioware once compared the renegade from Mass Effect 1 to Jack Bauer from 24. He sometimes makes some hard choices and tortures/kills innocent people etc. but overall is still on the good site. To succeed the mission is his main goal and he just does everything to accomplish it. Jeopardizing the whole mission by recruiting a serial killer doesn't seem to fit into that.

 

[Mr_Zombie]

There was absolutely no logical reason why choosing Samara over her would give you Paragon points.

There was no logical reason why would Shepard even choose her over Samara in the first place. I think I know what BioWare wanted to do (to portrait Morinth as a victim in the Morinth-Samara relationship, as some kind tragic character etc.) but they failed to do it. In the end Shepard was just choosing between a serial killer and a mercenary-like commando with a code.

 

[HadesGigas]

Gah, don't remind me of her. There was absolutely no logical reason why choosing Samara over her would give you Paragon points.

You... don't see why killing the serial killer is the "good" choice?

 

[White Man]

-Why is Cerberus after Shepard? They are working with the Reapers
"If your wondering why we were fighting Cerberus, having worked closely with this shadowy organisation in Mass Effect 2, the answer just raises further questions. They are wokring with the Reapers"

Well, at least we know that Bioware is putting in place a few lessons from DA2. They've preemptively pissed all over this sequel.

The whole shades of grey thing they had going on with ME2 was one of my favorite parts of the narrative. There aren't many games that move beyond binary good guy and bad guy factions, and Bioware pulled it off very very well.

 

[Fimbulvetr]

The whole shades of grey thing they had going on with ME2 was one of my favorite parts of the narrative. There aren't many games that move beyond binary good guy and bad guy factions, and Bioware pulled it off very very well.

What shades of gray?

 

[Vamphuntr]

I shouldn't have looked at the spoilers in the updated OP.

Spoiler

Shepard piloting a giant mech?

:lol this is pretty dumb.

 

[bengraven]

Well, at least we know that Bioware is putting in place a few lessons from DA2. They've preemptively pissed all over this sequel.

The whole shades of grey thing they had going on with ME2 was one of my favorite parts of the narrative. There aren't many games that move beyond binary good guy and bad guy factions, and Bioware pulled it off very very well.

Yeah, I'm scared ME3 will be more DA2 than ME2.

 

[Pandaman]

Does the game ever explore the concept of the justicars? I don't remember.

basically a mix between the punisher and the terminator.
they go after 'evil', but anyone who gets in their way for whatever reason is fair game too.

What shades of gray?

remmeber how shepard said in the first game that he'd rather die than live a slave?
remember how rewriting the geth instead of killing them was the paragon choice?
so gray.

 

[Rufus]

I know what a Justicar is, but does it ever go beyond a basic explanation of the concept?

But choosing Morinth also seemed like a stupid move for renegades, why choose an unpredictable serial killer over a Justicar that has made an oath to serve you no matter what you do?

True. Morinth would have to be a stronger character than Samara for the swap out to make more sense. She kills you if you try to romance her, but since that's a Game Over it wouldn't be much of a trade-off. It'd work if she killed other people on the ship, like Kelly.
I guess she's a better fit for a renegade Shep still, considering, Samara wouldn't go along with everything renegade Shep chooses to do. In theory at least, because to my knowledge, Samara never opposes you, no matter what you do... Just another disconnect between what the fiction sets up and the game delivers on in the end.

edit: Fuck, that's right, if you did anything wrong she'd only go after you once you finished your mission.

 

[Fimbulvetr]

I guess she's a better fit for a renegade Shep still, considering, Samara wouldn't go along with everything renegade Shep chooses to do. In theory at least, because to my knowledge, Samara never opposes you, no matter what you do... Just another disconnect between what the fiction sets up and the game delivers on in the end.

When she joins, Samara nonchalantly swears an oath that puts Shepard above her moral code.

Still extremely jarring for different reasons, but explains why Samara would tolerate a Renegade Shepard.

 

[Nirolak]

I shouldn't have looked at the spoilers in the updated OP.

Spoiler

Shepard piloting a giant mech?

:lol this is pretty dumb.

Spoiler

Apparently they're actually 15 foot tall mechs you can use whenever you kill the pilot instead of blowing up the mech.

 

[Freeza Under The Shower]

Yeah, I'm scared ME3 will be more DA2 than ME2.

quite.

 

[dimb]

Spoiler

Apparently they're actually 15 foot tall mechs you can use whenever you kill the pilot instead of blowing up the mech.

All of my RPGs are turning into Golden Axe.

 

[WrikaWrek]

I fear Bioware stabbing me again.

 

[Nirolak]

GAF's favorite marketing director is looking for feedback for how FemShep's design should look in their upcoming FemShep trailer: http://twitter.com/#!/dsilvermanea

 

[EatChildren]

It should look like mine, because mine is the real one.

 

[Fimbulvetr]

GAF's favorite marketing director is looking for feedback for how FemShep's design should look in their upcoming FemShep trailer: http://twitter.com/#!/dsilvermanea

Ugh at his background, so much scowling.

What does the default female look like anyway?

 

[Grisby]

It should look like mine, because mine is the real one.

Do you write fanfics about her?

Spoiler

Could you post some.

 

[jett]

GAF's favorite marketing director is looking for feedback for how FemShep's design should look in their upcoming FemShep trailer: http://twitter.com/#!/dsilvermanea

how about not ugly

 

[erpg]

Like the sister of every other generic female NPC in the game.

 

[Aquavelvaman]

My shep is best

 

[Snuggles]

GAF's favorite marketing director is looking for feedback for how FemShep's design should look in their upcoming FemShep trailer: http://twitter.com/#!/dsilvermanea

Weird question, but I'll just be importing my Shepard's appearence since it's actually not that bad. It wouldn't hurt them to add some new haircuts this time, maybe they could not look like plastic.

 

[Hasphat'sAnts]

My shep is best

I'm pretty sure everybody ended up with different hair styles and eye colors of that exact facial structure. Somehow the character creator could only make one good-looking character.

 

[Nirolak]

Weird question, but I'll just be importing my Shepard's appearence since it's actually not that bad. It wouldn't hurt them to add some new haircuts this time, maybe they could not look like plastic.

Apparently they're working on this:

 

[The Technomancer]

Weird question, but I'll just be importing my Shepard's appearence since it's actually not that bad. It wouldn't hurt them to add some new haircuts this time, maybe they could not look like plastic.

I just ran with it. Cranked my Shep's skin as pale as possible, and gave her a black plastic haircut. I like to imagine that she's actually a prototype android escaped from a research complex, which explains why she's ruthless and yet intelligent, saying whatever "paragon" or "renegade" thing needs to be said to advance her own agenda. Any semblance of emotion or feeling for other people is an illusion, her directive is to defend the galaxy.

Its quite fun.

 

[Snuggles]

Has anyone requested a breast size slider yet?

 

[ColonelColon]

This is totally unrelated to the current discussion, but here's Seth Green pretending to be Jeff Moreau: http://twitpic.com/516uh6

 

[Team Klimt]

Better with Kinect?

http://www.insidekinect.com/2011/06/mass-effect-3-to-feature-kinect-support.html

Image apparently ganked from EAs Digital Store. If legit it explains the delay.

 

[Oreoleo]

My shep is best

Why is there a huge floating penis in space?

 

[Team Klimt]

Why is there a huge floating penis in space?

Or it's a mammogram machine.

 

[Acheteedo]

I'm pretty sure everybody ended up with different hair styles and eye colors of that exact facial structure. Somehow the character creator could only make one good-looking character.

I was just thinking that mine looked shockingly similar to his.

 

[Alucrid]

Hair...limitations?

 

[FlashbladeGAF]

Just finished ME2 PS3

I cant imagine how the game was to people who played it on XBOX360

With the free DLC the game felt like a complete package. Something that should have been included in the game from the start. Especially the Lair of the Shadow Broker and Hammerhead sections.

Hopefully there is more in game content then DLC for ME3

And hopefully if you can buy the full game on the PSN it wont cost the same amount as the retail disk. 60 bucks for a digital file...really?

 

[Firestorm]

Just finished ME2 PS3

I cant imagine how the game was to people who played it on XBOX360

With the free DLC the game felt like a complete package. Something that should have been included in the game from the start. Especially the Lair of the Shadow Broker and Hammerhead sections.

Hopefully there is more in game content then DLC for ME3

And hopefully if you can buy the full game on the PSN it wont cost the same amount as the retail disk. 60 bucks for a digital file...really?

360 version is the same as PS3 isn't it? Just have to pay for the DLC which if you add it all up is roughly the price of the PS3 game. I think I only bought Kasumi and Shadow Broker though. Hammerhead didn't seem too interesting.

And what you pay for is the digital file. A coaster isn't much good. You want what's written in the coaster so your PS3 can read it. I agree it should be cheaper because there's no distribution or manufacturing costs, but let's not make "digital file" sound like it's irrelevant.

 

[X-Frame]

After DA2, I don't see why there'd be complications with longer hair.

My FemHawke looks fine with the longer hair styles, and there were a bunch. Some clipping issues with some armors, but very minor.

 

[Aquavelvaman]

Why is there a huge floating penis in space?

Looks more like balls to me

 

[DanielJr82]

Better with Kinect?

http://www.insidekinect.com/2011/06/mass-effect-3-to-feature-kinect-support.html

Image apparently ganked from EAs Digital Store. If legit it explains the delay.

I hope this is fake.

*Thinks about Kinect support in the love scene*

*Ponders buying Kinect*

*Comes back to his senses.*

*Sigh*

 

[Jerk]

Ugh at his background, so much scowling.

What does the default female look like anyway?

Too much man for you?

 

[Mr_Zombie]

That's not the final cover, right? It can't be.

Mass Effect had this nice cover that just screamed "it's a space opera, buy it!" and it was great. Why do both ME2 and ME3 covers have to suck then :/

 

[Snuggles]

Mass Effect had this nice cover that just screamed "it's a space opera, buy it!" and it was great. Why do both ME2 and ME3 covers have to suck then :/

The need an angry looking guy holding a weapon on the cover. It's what the kids are into these days.

 

[kokujin]

I read some stuff and they said they added same sex love interests, but they said there were no new characters.Does this mean some of the old characters turned gay between the games?

 

[Nirolak]

Hair...limitations?

Clipping.

 

[Pollux]

I read some stuff and they said they added same sex love interests, but they said there were no new characters.Does this mean some of the old characters turned gay between the games?

Could be new team members that were in old games but are new to the team? I dunno how they're gonna swing that one though. Interesting question.

 

[Totobeni]

I hope they can somehow put something like Alice Madness Return's hair for the characters in this game

like this

Since it's UE3.

 

[Mr_Zombie]

It would be nice to not have plastic wigs this time. Even Miranda's hair were awful :/

 

[CoffeeExpress]

they have to keep up on tradition of having boring / shitty boxart