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[LegendOfKage]

You think this is an organised, concerted effort?

There are those who know quite well that "oppressed" and "oppressor" is just a modern day "proletariat" and "bourgeoisie," and believe that anything the former does to the latter is justified. I think most of these are in higher education, or the recently indoctrinated. "I can't take action against calls for genocide, but I can dis-invite a guest speaker because she said there are only two genders" type people. It's also crazy ironic, because everyone in higher education is "bourgeoisie" by definition.

Then there are the elite, wealthy, and powerful. The last thing they'd want is socialism, and they're just doing this because when you're focused only on race and gender, you're not thinking about class. These are the companies and CEOs. You can also signal virtue while doing evil. Read this twitter thread for some really strong examples of this:




And finally you have the people who have built a religion out of race and gender. But like any religion, there are extremists, there's intolerance, ostracism, sanctimony, hypocrisy, justification of cruelty, etc

 

[StealthGoblin]

There are those who know quite well that "oppressed" and "oppressor" is just a modern day "proletariat" and "bourgeoisie," and believe that anything the former does to the latter is justified. I think most of these are in higher education, or the recently indoctrinated. "I can't take action against calls for genocide, but I can dis-invite a guest speaker because she said there are only two genders" type people. It's also crazy ironic, because everyone in higher education is "bourgeoisie" by definition.

Then there are the elite, wealthy, and powerful. The last thing they'd want is socialism, and they're just doing this because when you're focused only on race and gender, you're not thinking about class. These are the companies and CEOs. You can also signal virtue while doing evil. Read this twitter thread for some really strong examples of this:




And finally you have the people who have built a religion out of race and gender. But like any religion, there are extremists, there's intolerance, ostracism, sanctimony, hypocrisy, justification of cruelty, etc

Okay - so who or what is deliberately, intentionally using the entryism strategy on Insomniac Games?

Entryism requires a decision maker. For example the KBG used the strategy to infiltrate M16 in the past and had a playbook to achieve it.

 

[rofif]

The yellow sweater girl is cute af

 

[Flutta]

I'd be shocked if it wasn't. The people who love jamming that shit in everything they touch aren't going to miss the most anticipated game of last 10+ years.

Yup. It’s given, GTA has a long reach and massive following. People think because of that trailer it ”won’t be woke” bahahaha…. Bait and switch is common when it comes to woke injected products.

 

[DenchDeckard]

I used to be jealous of all the companies hiring more women in the work place......

I'm good.

 

[LegendOfKage]

Okay - so who or what is deliberately, intentionally using the entryism strategy on Insomniac Games?

I didn't watch the video, but I know of the KGB guy who warned about all of that, and I know the theory that lead to.

But no, it doesn't require a decision maker, just the continuation of a "have" and "have not" worldview that sorts everyone into one of two groups, and breeds resentment. I think part of the theory is basically the intent was to set the ball in motion as a "backdoor" to socialist thought and values, not to be explicit about it.

So to answer your question, no, I don't think this is "an organized, concerted effort" everywhere that mindset is found. But I do think the end result will be the same, assuming the theory is true in the first place. And being that many schools have more self-described socialist / communist teachers than they do people who identify as conservatives, I really think there's some solid evidence that either the theory was correct, or we just ended up there anyway. But like I suggested, I believe different people push these things for different reasons.

 

[StealthGoblin]

I didn't watch the video, but I know of the KGB guy who warned about all of that, and I know the theory that lead to.

But no, it doesn't require a decision maker, just the continuation of a "have" and "have not" worldview that sorts everyone into one of two groups, and breeds resentment. I think part of the theory is basically the intent was to set the ball in motion as a "backdoor" to socialist thought and values, not to be explicit about it.

So to answer your question, no, I don't think this is "an organized, concerted effort" everywhere that mindset is found. But I do think the end result will be the same, assuming the theory is true in the first place. And being that many schools have more self-described socialist / communist teachers than they do people who identify as conservatives, I really think there's some solid evidence that either the theory was correct, or we just ended up there anyway. But like I suggested, I believe different people push these things for different reasons.

The reason why there are more left-leaning teachers is because teaching at its heart is about equity, which isn't something you'd hear right-leaning people espouse all that often. I would imagine that healthcare workers also lean left for similar reasons.

Your values are a huge part of why someone goes into a vocational role - and in those sectors discussed they are ultimately selfless (and the public facing end). The penny pinchers are probably more conservative.

 

[Windom Earle]

GTA6 trailer was fine, its miami, tons of ppl of different races than white there.
Enough to see how well trailer got received, if it really was woke u can bet it would get tons of negative reception, and hell it was even criticized by woke media

I know this and im from fricken poland/eastern europe, here 99,9% ppl are white btw, in my smalltown last few years only non white ppl i saw was 3 french tourists durning summer wanting to make photos, one of our doctors who is from somalia/etiopa(hard to say, but he looks like those maraton runner olimpians, aka black as a granite, short af and maybe 40kg/100lbs of weight, if not less)+ i think his daughter who is mixed and goes to primary school near my house, like 2minutes away, so i sometimes see her going there/from there, with other kids.

Will gta6 be woke- no clue, no1 knows except devs, we can only judge it by its trailer or/and those leaks from before, 0 wokeness in there so far.

Compare it to actual woke trailer/game, aka saints row reboot where main cast looks just like from that diversity vid in the first post, super unlikeable, u actually wanted to play as "badguys" in that trailer instead lol every1 knew this shit gonna be terrible, devs tried to dmg control and yell at series fans, and results was as predicted- low quality game, terrible sales and studio clousure

If you need so many works to cope how it was not woke it was probably woke

 

[LegendOfKage]

The reason why there are more left-leaning teachers is because teaching at its heart is about equity, which isn't something you'd hear right-leaning people espouse all that often.

I didn't compare left leaning to right leaning, I compared right leaning to avowed socialists. And equity by definition is equal outcome, not equal opportunity, which again is a socialist concept. Aside from that, here's where equity has brought us:




A word of advice: don't justify anything in this video, or "both sides" anything about this conflict, or it could very well lead to a ban. Many people have lost their accounts in the Israel thread. Scroll down to the bottom of the page and click "bans" on the lower right for some examples.

Lastly, teaching isn't about equity, it's about passing down knowledge. It's the literal definition.

 

[Stooky]

Why do you need to be represented? Get the fuck back to your cool people in Korea, 100% representation.
But somehow you were desperate to leave for terrible Europe or US. Be happy they let you in at all

 

[StealthGoblin]

I didn't compare left leaning to right leaning, I compared right leaning to avowed socialists. And equity by definition is equal outcome, not equal opportunity, which again is a socialist concept. Aside from that, here's where equity has brought us:




A word of advice: don't justify anything in this video, or "both sides" anything about this conflict, or it could very well lead to a ban. Many people have lost their accounts in the Israel thread. Scroll down to the bottom of the page and click "bans" on the lower right for some examples.

Lastly, teaching isn't about equity, it's about passing down knowledge. It's the literal definition.

In education equity is about giving everyone equality of opportunity.

 

[CGNoire]

The yellow sweater girl is cute af

Yellow?...it looks more like Pea Soup.

 

[Nickolaidas]

You lot cry about it because it triggers you. Not because certain "rules" aren't followed. You handwave liberties Devs take when it suits you then cry wolf the moment they don't.

That's fucking horseshit.

Did you see any anti-woke complain about Godzilla Minus One not having anything other but Japanese people in it? Did you see white people getting triggered and saying this some kind of anti-white agenda or anything? No. You know why? Because a fucking movie based on fucking Japan only having a Japanese cast makes fucking sense.

But when you have a northern region which is based on Scandinavian medieval Europe have a fucking cast as if it's modern California, then yes, people cringe and roll their eyes. Because it is being narratively lazy and wrong, for the sake of twitter points.

 

[rofif]

Yellow?...it looks more like Pea Soup.

The only good looking girl

 

[LegendOfKage]

In education equity is about giving everyone equality of opportunity.

Then you can just call it equality, as people have for ages. Equity is generally associated with equal outcome.

 

[StealthGoblin]

Then you can just call it equality, as people have for ages. Equity is generally associated with equal outcome.

Nope.

 

[Joramun]

Did someone enlarge that hand on the right? Holy shit lol.

The one in purple looks like those big things the Fraggles hide from in Fraggle Rock.

 

[LegendOfKage]

Nope.

You say no, but you post an image that is exactly what I said. Equity means equal outcome and the redistribution of resources to achieve it.

 

[Kaleinc]

The one holding you is doing a great job

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

You know it. I know it. Everybody knows it. Yet...

This is the other end of the problem, seeing everything as "woke", and an attack when it isn't.
There's nothing woke about jazz tap dancers.

 

[ComputerBlue]

White women. Always offended on someone elses behalf.

They’re usually fuck ugly, too.

 

[Dane]

They did write Latinx and got the Puerto Rico flag wrong. I can find more respect in racists chats/social media groups than in a place like this.

 

[hyperbertha]

What about that chick in the middle with the gargantuan ass and behemoth legs?

That my friend is called a plus sized supermodel.

 

[hyperbertha]

You lot cry about it because it triggers you. Not because certain "rules" aren't followed. You handwave liberties Devs take when it suits you then cry wolf the moment they don't.

What liberties do devs take that suits me?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

What liberties do devs take that suits me?

Every other cutscene in Uncharted that doesn't portray Nate as a one man army

 

[hyperbertha]

Every other cutscene in Uncharted that doesn't portray Nate as a one man army

Not sure what you mean but are you saying it's ok if ff16 had pushed for diversity in a mediaeval European setting?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Not sure what you mean but are you saying it's ok if ff16 had pushed for diversity in a mediaeval European setting?

Omfg

If you go out protesting black cleopatra because of history revisionism i'll be by your side

If you go out protesting a women bodying a man because gameplay liberties dictated he was an unstoppable god i'm leaving you to the wolves

One is genuine. The other just makes you look stupid

 

[hyperbertha]

Omfg

If you go out protesting black cleopatra because of history revisionism i'll be by your side

If you go out protesting a women bodying a man because gameplay liberties dictated he was an unstoppable god i'm leaving you to the wolves

One is genuine. The other just makes you look stupid

I go out protesting both. Because pandering is pandering.
It's not the fact that it's a woman bodying a man. Black widow taking out multiple bodyguards in Ironman is perfectly fine. The rules are consistent. Superheroes >> ordinary dudes
The uc4 fight scene is inconsistent and clearly political.

 

[Chuck Berry]

The yellow sweater girl is cute af

I’ll take Frank The Tank in the middle

…said no one ever

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I go out protesting both. Because pandering is pandering.
It's not the fact that it's a woman bodying a man. Black widow taking out multiple bodyguards in Ironman is perfectly fine. The rules are consistent. Superheroes >> ordinary dudes
The uc4 fight scene is inconsistent and clearly political.

Most of fucking Uncharted isn't consistent to what the gameplay portrays nate as. He's narratively never been capable of the shit he does in the gameplay.

 

[Lumpyoatmeal]

You know it. I know it. Everybody knows it. Yet...

I was expecting some terrible tap dancing, that was actually impressive. Someone literally went out of their way to get the toy train in the shot, on point damn

 

[Schmendrick]

They’re lying to you about being natural.

Nope...

I don't think you have a way of knowing.

I've been a PL for 25 years. I trained and have been training with some of those gals for over a decade...I know what I'm talking about.....

 

[Celine]

Sony are a joke of a company. Moving PlayStation HQ to California in 2016 began the death spiral of the company. Believe me when I say this isn’t warring, and that the exact same applies to Microsoft. Western media has entered a dark age. I’m sure some purple heads will be along to tell me that they are making money, and that’s great. But what does the legacy of these games look like in 20 years time? Will they be as revered as games like Crash and Spyro? No, they are forgettable slop. Junk food.

In comparison, Japanese manga and video games are currently in a golden age. It’s no coincidence that as a nation they aren’t influenced by this disease of the mind.

PlayStation was always a trend-chaser.
A game like Crash Bandicoot, which you've cited, might be fondly remembered by some (IMO it's not a great game) but the whole game concept was a reaction of what was popular around the time of development, that is "edgy" platform mascot games like Sonic and Donkey Kong Country, while trying to replicate it with polygonal graphics (not really 3D since the game was basically on-rail).
When Naughty Dog (the developer of Crash) fully transitioned under Sony's wing from Universal Interactive they tried to create a new 3D platform game IP (Jak and Daxter) but around the same time Grand Theft Auto III hit with a massive impact the video game industry which had drastic consequences for Jak's future games.
Here what Jason Rubin, Crash and Jak director, has said at the time:

PS2 Interview: Interview: Jak II raises the bar - ComputerAndVideoGames.com


Can you talk us through how you came up with the concept for Jak II after the last game?
Rubin: Even though we did really well with the first, we wanted to mess with the formula. If you look at what's popular now, things have changed. It's not like the days of Crash 1 and 2 when character action games ruled the world. They have to fight harder these days.
We've moved the entire atmosphere of the game to a higher age group. Gamers like me are still playing. I'm 33 and what I want now is very different from what I wanted ten years ago. Ten years ago you didn't have the choice to play Grand Theft Auto. You played Mario because Mario was what's available.
Well, Pandora's box has opened and younger kids want to play what older kids are playing and older kids are playing Grand Theft Auto.
This isn't about saving a princess; it's about revenge, betrayal. You might think that doesn't sound original, but think of Mario going out for revenge, or Sonic. It's not a character action thing to do.
Jak's changed a lot. He's older, he's been to prison and he's angry. Jak is not a character action hero of the past. Everything in the game is changed. You can use stuff at any time. And I mean that: if you're on a tiny platform and you pull it out, you'll die - we're not going to prevent you from doing that. You have to think things through differently.
Then there's the angry mode, where you become Dark Jak. It's a little like Hulk without the bulk.

---

As you said, people's tastes have changed. Whereas ten years ago, Mario was the biggest thing on the planet, people want to play Vice City now.
Rubin: I stood in line watching two kids who must've been between seven and nine. They were going to their Mum: "It's so cool! You get to pick up hookers!" And the mum just said: "That's cool. We'll be going home soon." If they're getting those games, that's where the world is right now.

---

The first Jak and Daxter was heavily influenced by games like Mario 64, and was quite twee and colourful in relation to Jak II. Mario Sunshine, a game in the traditional twee style, performed below expectations - did that have any impact on the direction you were taking Jak II in?
Rubin: It definitely redoubled my belief that you have to push the genre forward, because when I put that game in and expected Miyamoto greatness, and the characters came out saying: "Bloop! Bloop! Bloop!" I was like, that is 1997. I don't need that in 2003. Give me a character with a voice and a personality, and more of a cinematic experience. Don't give me Mario from 15 years ago. They just haven't moved on; that's not their focus. I think its very hard for Miyamoto to both run Nintendo - which he does to a certain extent - and get into the game design.

Those were the words of a weak-minded creator that hide the insecurity about his own creations (their timelesssly qualities) behind the the false pretense that "push forward" means chasing trends therefore the big impact GTAIII had on the development of Jak II.
Two decades later and Nintendo kept marching at its own beat, with Super Mario Odyssey that has become the best selling 3D platform game of all time, nearing 30 million units sold (with a soft price reduction strategy to boot).
But it takes a deep inner understanding of why people played your past creations and should play your future creations to keep following your long established foundational principles in spite of changing times, a conviction based on the belief (right or wrong however might be) that your principles trascend time and aren't solely a thoughtless reaction of present fads.
You can't expect trend-chasers to not conform to what is perceived as the temporary fashion of the day.
I'm actually pretty sure that some people will fondly remember Spider-Man 1&2 twenty years into the future because there is no way that a game that sell so well won't have some kind of long term legacy but it won't invalidate the concept I've exposed above.

 

[EviLore]

Nope...


I've been a PL for 25 years....I know what I'm talking about.....

No one in the powerlifting scene would ever lie about taking steroids!

There are biological realities to face.

Natural testosterone levels in male and female adults:

 

[Schmendrick]

No one in the powerlifting scene would ever lie about taking steroids!

There are biological realities to face
Natural testosterone levels in male and female adults:

No one ever claimed female athletes could keep up with male athletes, but the natural limits for women as well as for men are far far higher than the average outsider Joe Schmoe thinks... As demonstrated here.

 

[PatientGamer]

I consider myself left-wing/centre politically, but this Inclusion Champions program is dangerous and not just to video games. What they're essentially doing is telling every non-white. non-straight person that every difficulty they've ever encountered in life is due to their identity rather than their ability.

The video itself, I had no issues with.

The minorities in there are actually advocating against tokenisation.

However that document is full of horse shit, looks and sounds like it was produced by a 12 year old who has no concept of how the world works.

As a black person, I think remastering live action films with Black leads is stupid. Honestly, Disney, Sony and the rest of them are not doing this out of the goodness of their heart, but rather as a cash grab to entice folks from those groups to buy their products. That's pretty much it.

Instead of making EXISTING characters and stories with Black or trans leads or whatever, just make a new fucking character with a rich story. That's what we (minorities) actually want.

I don't want to see a black Nathan Drake, but rather a brand new world where the lead is black, but his blackness is NOT the point of the fucking game. I'm tired of consuming slavery-fetish media and films. Just make a story ffs.

But most importantly, I don't think it's up to white people to tell these stories - because often they're not equipped; they don't have the experience so why are they creating these narratives?

The problem lies with conglomerates not willing to invest and hire minority talent to create their own rich experiences. Instead, they hire companies like Sweet Baby Inc, to bastardise the 'storytelling'.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

I didn't care or hate Insomniac before, but with these attitudes... I'm starting to dislike them.

 

[Lumpyoatmeal]

I didn't care or hate Insomniac before, but with these attitudes... I'm starting to dislike them.

Lol, I've never cared for Insomniac game titles before, I personally always thought they games were mediocre. This is why I don't understand of all the game companies out here fucking Insomniac (really?) would be targeted by "hackers"? The amount of actual intel that came out of Insomniac though was actually surprising however.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I consider myself left-wing/centre politically, but this Inclusion Champions program is dangerous and not just to video games. What they're essentially doing is telling every non-white. non-straight person that every difficulty they've ever encountered in life is due to their identity rather than their ability.

The video itself, I had no issues with.

The minorities in there are actually advocating against tokenisation.

However that document is full of horse shit, looks and sounds like it was produced by a 12 year old who has no concept of how the world works.

As a black person, I think remastering live action films with Black leads is stupid. Honestly, Disney, Sony and the rest of them are not doing this out of the goodness of their heart, but rather as a cash grab to entice folks from those groups to buy their products. That's pretty much it.

Instead of making EXISTING characters and stories with Black or trans leads or whatever, just make a new fucking character with a rich story. That's what we (minorities) actually want.

I don't want to see a black Nathan Drake, but rather a brand new world where the lead is black, but his blackness is NOT the point of the fucking game. I'm tired of consuming slavery-fetish media and films. Just make a story ffs.

But most importantly, I don't think it's up to white people to tell these stories - because often they're not equipped; they don't have the experience so why are they creating these narratives?

The problem lies with conglomerates not willing to invest and hire minority talent to create their own rich experiences. Instead, they hire companies like Sweet Baby Inc, to bastardise the 'storytelling'.

Helping people out is fine, but it should be done as non-discriminatory as possible.

Poor people needing some money and job training is a class based struggle. Everyone in that boat no matter how old they are or what they look like is in a similar crappy situation. So any assistance logically goes towards a proven need state ----> they are broke and need career help.

Race based initiatives are 100% discriminatory, since the person/company/government dishing out the perks and ratios is looking skin deep. I find it amazing that society even tolerates this, because the US is the biggest advocator of abolishing slaves and segregation yet the country (along with other western ones too) are now going back to it isolating people into silos. I thought being siloed and isolated based on ethic background is supposed to be a big no-no?

It's also incredible how one sided it is, as if every white person is living like the Rockerfellers, while every minority or female needs an artificial boost as if all of them are too broke and dumb to make their own living.

Another point that is oddly fascinating is how often times the benefactor is often a white person. So basically for all you minorities out there getting some handouts and ratio boosts, a white person is making the decision you are too dopey on your own and his whitey hand has to go into his pocket and bail you out like a numbnut.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Lol, I've never cared for Insomniac game titles before, I personally always thought they games were mediocre. This is why I don't understand of all the game companies out here fucking Insomniac (really?) would be targeted by "hackers"? The amount of actual intel that came out of Insomniac though was actually surprising however.

I didn't care about Insomniac games either... Even Ratchet and clank didn't even matter to me as a franchise.

But I think it was raised a lot by the PS4 Spiderman game, nothing more.

 

[shaddam]

No wonder the game cost ton of money. It must be money laundering

 

[Kenpachii]

Abby is not that big, pictures of her make her out to be big because there is no comparison material next towards her, but once u put her next to a male her body is exactly what u would expect small.

The game however made her huge and completely unrealistic.

This is how she looks huge:

But this is her next to a guy.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Thank god I didn’t buy this garbage.

This. So much.

 

[stn]

Most of these companies that implement this type of stuff are not genuine and don't actually care, they just want to have a positive image by pandering to people. Also, assuming its true that they took out the homosexual references and things in the Middle Eastern copies of the game, that further proves they're just tools.

 

[Bilu]

The video is no longer available, where is the mirror?

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

There are biological realities to face.

We had hundreds, thousands and million years of evolution, but now we have "with this X you become the same as Y".

 

[Nickolaidas]

I consider myself left-wing/centre politically, but this Inclusion Champions program is dangerous and not just to video games. What they're essentially doing is telling every non-white. non-straight person that every difficulty they've ever encountered in life is due to their identity rather than their ability.

The video itself, I had no issues with.

The minorities in there are actually advocating against tokenisation.

However that document is full of horse shit, looks and sounds like it was produced by a 12 year old who has no concept of how the world works.

As a black person, I think remastering live action films with Black leads is stupid. Honestly, Disney, Sony and the rest of them are not doing this out of the goodness of their heart, but rather as a cash grab to entice folks from those groups to buy their products. That's pretty much it.

Instead of making EXISTING characters and stories with Black or trans leads or whatever, just make a new fucking character with a rich story. That's what we (minorities) actually want.

I don't want to see a black Nathan Drake, but rather a brand new world where the lead is black, but his blackness is NOT the point of the fucking game. I'm tired of consuming slavery-fetish media and films. Just make a story ffs.

But most importantly, I don't think it's up to white people to tell these stories - because often they're not equipped; they don't have the experience so why are they creating these narratives?

The problem lies with conglomerates not willing to invest and hire minority talent to create their own rich experiences. Instead, they hire companies like Sweet Baby Inc, to bastardise the 'storytelling'.

A-fucking-men.

 

[DeepEnigma]

You know it. I know it. Everybody knows it. Yet...

Surprised they didn't play "Mamma's little baby..." and ended with the WB frog.

Lmfaooooo. That tap-dancing black dude was a lantern away from a lawn ornament

 

[JayK47]

It was obvious to me that they were taking this type of training. So obviously forced on them, and then forced on us. I refuse to support this garbage and will no longer give Insomniac any of my money. Not long ago I was considering buying a PS5 just to play Spiderman 2, and then I started to see all of the posts on the obvious pandering and worse was what they did to MJ. If I am in the mood for Spiderman, I will need to dig out the first game, as that one was not littered with pride flags. These woke idiots are so bad at writing in diversity. It is so cringe and stereotypical.

 

[The Skull]

From my years as a powerlifter I can absolutely assure you that there are women who can do that naturally. But absolutely not on some ends-of-days survivor rations ...

Her body model is literally juiced to the gills.