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Lawsuit: Baylor Football players used gang rape as a bonding experience
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cr0w
Old Member
You don't think Baylor is old money?
Dude I'm from Waco, Baylor is about as old money as you can get. The amount of influence they have over that town and the surrounding area is staggering.
I can't believe universities mediate rape cases. It's so insane to me. Go to the cops at least. They can get the tapes, go to where the rape took place, call it a crime scene, collect physical evidence, etc.
If you murder a kid on campus, does the dean say, "hey, let's try and find a satisfactory solution for all parties?"
If you murder a kid on campus, does the dean say, "hey, let's try and find a satisfactory solution for all parties?"
shira
Member
https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/
2018 Football Recruiting Class
Penn State #2
Baylor #18
Baylor was founded before Penn State
Retrofluxed
Member
Death penalty for the Football team? Fuck that, remove all their sports programs completely. Fucking disgusting.
cr0w
Old Member
At least until Chip and Joanna became a thing.
Man you have no idea. At least they're restoring the Elite Cafe, though, I'll give 'em that.
Psychoward
Banned
Yep, pretty much any decently sized college with a reputation for partying is gonna have girls getting drugged at parties. It's fucked.
Did the Elite Cafe close? I've only been back to Waco to visit my family. I'm living in Austin now.
cr0w
Old Member
Yeah it closed a couple years ago. They bought it last year and plan to turn it into a breakfast place.
I'm in Houston now, but I go up there a couple times to visit my dad in West/Leroy. It's crazy how much shit Waco has compared to a few years ago. They have a fuckin' In 'N Out burger now.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
I actually legitimately started tearing up and feeling suck to my stomach reading that. What the fuck is wrong with people?
But SMU players were so BAD for accepting money so death penalty for them!!!
Key difference is that this involved players, PSU was entirely an administrative act and UNC was academic misconduct by the players not criminal acts.
I know you are a lawyer and have more knowledge of such issues, but I recall the issue with the PSU punishment is that it wasn't in the bylaws at all.
If the twenty one second video is ever released. Baylor will be completely fucked.
timetokill
Banned
Yeah that would've been a hell of an episode of Dexter lol
Tell me about it. Watching those horrible people get what's coming to them was cathartic instead of horrifying to me.
#sorrynotsorry
Member
This is despicable. The death penalty does seem fair though if last season is any indication, Baylor got the death penalty indirectly anyway.
The real issue though isn't Baylor. It's college football. If you don't think this happens at just about every power 5 university, you are a fool. In fact it's undoubtedly worse at many of them. It's a significant issue that's getting no headlines.
The real issue though isn't Baylor. It's college football. If you don't think this happens at just about every power 5 university, you are a fool. In fact it's undoubtedly worse at many of them. It's a significant issue that's getting no headlines.
super-famicom
Member
Burn it all down
Bits N Pieces
Member
Too many people telling these kids they are superstars and they have the world at their feet. No one says No to them which gives them the autonomy to act like animals with no threat of recourse.
The institutions are making monsters and we've sat back and let them do it for years.
I say this from the UK and the countless tales of sportsmen (mainly footballers) acting like degenerate cunts.
The institutions are making monsters and we've sat back and let them do it for years.
I say this from the UK and the countless tales of sportsmen (mainly footballers) acting like degenerate cunts.
I agree with your sentiment that this is much more deserving of the death penalty than paying players, but like I said on the last page, I think it's a NCAA authority issue. I could be totally wrong, but thought a lot of the Penn State discussion was about how the NCAA couldn't enforce that for a non-competition related issue.
Hari Seldon
Member
Not to defend Penn State, but at least that didn't involve players. I was fine shutting down Penn State's program as long as the players were allowed to freely transfer. But this is worthy of punishing the players directly.
timetokill
Banned
Another disgusting part of this is that you're going to see some bullshit on the field as the players use "the dark cloud over the school" as yet another bonding experience and hear the commentators talk about how tough the players are and that they're relying on each other to footage of the players locked arm in arm coming out of the tunnel.
"We ain't got nobody but each other" will be a rallying cry as they act like they're the oppressed party here.
"We ain't got nobody but each other" will be a rallying cry as they act like they're the oppressed party here.
I can totally see that.
Gentleman Jack
Member
Baylor's long term strategy has been complete radio silence on the matter and it has worked wonderfully. Deadspin has been calling them out for over a year but unfortunately as a society we've decided that guys playing a game for children is more important than finding justice for raped women, and that's why optimism is low that we'll ever see the right thing done.
Baylor isn't comparable to PSU football or UNC Basketball nationally. I'm sure Baylor is cultlike in Waco like PSU in Happy Valley but Baylor isn't nearly as valuable to the NCAA.
That's what I mean. Baylor sports disappearing isn't close to the national financial impact of those other two.
I can't comment on anything re: Baylor and DOE.
I should have been clearer in my first post but I'm only referring to the NCAA and their brand of punishment for sports programs as a highly cynical lay person. If Baylor were UT, ND, Michigan...I'd expect the NCAA to give the strongest of wrist slaps and not much else.
cr0w
Old Member
Ahh, that's true.
Gotdatmoney
Member
How the fuck can you gang rape someone? Like how do you get all these people to not only be complicit but to take turns actively engage in raping a semi conscious person? Like what the fuck is wrong with you?
Fuck everyone involved.
Fuck everyone involved.
WordsintheWater
Member
Holy crap, this is absolutely sickening
Pretty easy. You get a bunch of people to value their team above all else, and then you get someone vile to lead you, and you all do heinous things together, which cements the bond either by camaraderie, or by making sure you'll never snitch because you'll get burned too.
This can happen with any social group, the problem is that college sports makes money and is a draw for admissions, so there's little incentive for colleges to actually crack down on it. So it festers and can become institutionalized.
Art Briles *Beep* Hell *Beep* Collision course
Waddle Dee
Member
Reading that made me want to vomit. Nothing good seems to come from college sports. Just get rid of the whole fucking thing, I'm sick of this shit happening.
Most colleges a huge rape problem.
This is just the most extreme example of it.
Hope these fuckers spend the rest of their lives in prison.
Earthbound64
Banned
So many people actively took part in this, and said nothing about it.
Absolutely disgusting.
Absolutely disgusting.
Still waiting for these schools to get heavily penalized, everyone involved from administration, players, accomplices, anyone that has attempted to cover things up, to get completely destroyed by the justice system. Kill the programs, ruin their futures. Straight up garbage.
But as usual, slaps on the wrists.
But as usual, slaps on the wrists.
Latvian Hitman
Member
I don't know which is more disgusting- the mounting reports of what happened at Baylor under Briles, or the fact that nothing's been done about it yet. People should be going to federal prison over this, and Baylor should have all athletic programs terminated.
:lol
This isn't even close to their first offense. They've been doing heinous shit for years and nothing happened to them.
The NCAA is a complete joke. Penn State and Baylor should have been nuked from orbit years ago.
Hippopuncher12
Member
Yeah Baylor has one hell of a rap sheet.
A lot of people forget about the Patrick Dennehy murder - player killed his teammate
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Like it's an isolated case... nah, I'm more on the "end college sports" team myself.
Switch Back 9
a lot of my threads involve me fucking up somehow. Perhaps I'm a moron?
This is what your obsession with sports (football) and sport culture does America. It's fucking nuts y'all will spend $50 million on a high-school football stadium and look the other way at shit like this because they're good at throwing a ball.
Basically. At least tone it down a bit.
Basically. At least tone it down a bit.
IrishNinja
Member
looking at this & penn state...like, if a QB pulled the play from the opening of Last Boy Scout, would that be enough to shut down a program? what exactly does it take?
Yeah, that made me feel sick to my stomach. Sad and infuriating.
Earthbound64
Banned
Or is it possible to happen at all?