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[Paperclip Killa]

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Some critical updates on the sales/shipments of AR/VR headset devices:

1. Sony has cut its 2023 production plan for the PS VR2 by about 20%.
2. The product lifecycle shipment for Meta’s Quest Pro is only around 300,000 units.
3. Pico (China’s largest AR/VR headset brand) shipments in 2022 were more than 40% lower than expected.

Conclusion:

1. There is currently insufficient evidence to suggest that AR/VR headsets can become the next star product in consumer electronics in the foreseeable future.
2. Apple’s announcement event is likely the last hope for convincing investors that the AR/MR headset device could have a chance to be the next star product in consumer electronics.
3. The current market consensus may overestimate AR/VR headset devices’ contribution to key component suppliers over the next few years, particularly in the optical-related.

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[NeoIkaruGAF]

 

[Last Hearth]

VR will not be a thing until VR porn becomes available on it.

I'm not saying that's right or good. But it is reality.

 

[Crayon]

From production cut 50% to 20%. Take that, haters.

 

[Paperclip Killa]

VR will not be a thing until VR porn becomes available on it.

I'm not saying that's right or good. But it is reality.

VR has had porn for years, I remember there were censored YouTube ads promoting the 360 view even.

 

[Drizzlehell]

Overpriced headsets aren't selling like hotcakes during a period where people are more concerned with economic strife?

 

[TheRedRiders]

VR will not be a thing until VR porn becomes available on it.

I'm not saying that's right or good. But it is reality.

yup, people forget that internet porn was one of the main drivers behind the development of high security online encryption payments.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

 

[Alexios]

Ok Eddie.

Edit: lol, the forum software knows too

2/5 of the suggestions in his Xbox has no gaems thread and 3/5 in the weird Sonic vs Mario thread too, I'm guessing it's a similar story for many more he's made since Eddie's ban which his current history seems to end at.

 

[SteelCurtain 59]

Maybe because VR as it stands is not that interesting, a few gimmick 2 hour experiences and, what, 1? game approaching AAA (Half Life), at least for me, VR probably needs another 5-10 years of improvements/new features (including but not limited to solving the movement issue in some way other than janky teleporting, and having some way to control the game without needing to just be holding a controller)

 

[TheRedRiders]

Maybe because VR as it stands is not that interesting, a few gimmick 2 hour experiences and, what, 1? game approaching AAA (Half Life), at least for me, VR probably needs another 5-10 years of improvements/new features (including but not limited to solving the movement issue in some way other than janky teleporting, and having some way to control the game without needing to just be holding a controller)

Agreed, it's cool technology but it lacks refinement and is borderline gimmicky, no ones to tie a big piece of electrical junk around their head.

I think PSVR2 will still be relatively successful, and I think Sony's aim was to create the trend rather than take advantage of it, we're years off before it will become more mainstream.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

it seems not even apple is saving this shit.

 

[Leonidas]

This could have been avoided if there was official PC support.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Reports of production cuts of 50 percent before launch and then a further 20 percent for 2023....

 

[Cert.in.Death]

Everyone expecting a VR headset to be the next iPhone are sorely out of touch.

 

[feynoob]

If you want to sell something, make it cheaper.

Consumers won't spend 500$ on a vr device that needs another 500$ console.

Quest 2 is selling like hot cakes because it's very cheap.

 

[fart town usa]

taking a quick break from my posting hiatus to inform people that the PSVR2 has a monthly installment payment option.

I just ordered one direct from Sony's PSVR2 website and noticed the monthly installment option (klarna). I qualified for 0% APR and will essentially pay $50 a month for the next year.

I don't think everyone qualifies for 0% APR but worth looking into if you want one but don't want to shell out $600 at once.

Buy PS VR2 | PlayStation® (US)

Escape into thrilling new worlds that feel, look and sound truly real as virtual reality gaming takes a huge generational leap forward with PlayStation®VR2.

direct.playstation.com

Haters can laugh at production cuts. I just want to play Village in VR.

 

[BrutalTruth_]

Think most of us saw this coming.

I just hope they don't scrap the support for it, you hate to see it

 

[Skifi28]

Re4 VR and Alyx could easily change that, but I'm afraid Jim is too busy crying about COD to throw some money valve's way.

 

[Schmendrick]

Water is wet and expensive niche fads stay niche.

 

[BreakOut]

$400 and I will go buy one right this second. $450 and I’d at least look into it. Doesn’t really matter if they’re going to make or lose money at a cheaper price, because they’re not gonna sell enough at $550. Eat money on the hardware, make it up on the games. They need to focus on getting that shit into peoples hands.
Also, If they let the VR die like they did the vita they’re gonna lose all credibility. Hopefully they don’t Google graveyard the VR.

 

[Taddypole]

This could have been avoided if there was official PC support.

how when it sales all vr sales are down lol

 

[Kilau]

Don’t know why some folks seem to have a hate boner for all things VR. It’s really great to experience. Hopefully the market can hold on long enough for the tech to advance to something the mainstream consumer can’t pass up.

 

[ReBurn]

VR will not be a thing until VR porn becomes available on it.

I'm not saying that's right or good. But it is reality.

That's already available. People still aren't buying VR.

People aren't going to buy it until it's not a massive gadget strapped to your face.

 

[bentanchorbolt]

VR will not be a thing until VR porn becomes available on it.

It's widely available, high quality, and free.

 

[bentanchorbolt]

it seems not even apple is saving this shit.

VR needs killer apps, that is what is missing. The indie games and other content is great but most of its filler type content you enjoy as a treat and not the main appeal.

 

[SmokedMeat]

VR will not be a thing until VR porn becomes available on it.

I'm not saying that's right or good. But it is reality.

For a moment I thought this post was from 2016 or something.

VR porn is totally a thing.

 

[Deerock71]

 

[Corndog]

​

Some critical updates on the sales/shipments of AR/VR headset devices:

1. Sony has cut its 2023 production plan for the PS VR2 by about 20%.
2. The product lifecycle shipment for Meta’s Quest Pro is only around 300,000 units.
3. Pico (China’s largest AR/VR headset brand) shipments in 2022 were more than 40% lower than expected.

Conclusion:

1. There is currently insufficient evidence to suggest that AR/VR headsets can become the next star product in consumer electronics in the foreseeable future.
2. Apple’s announcement event is likely the last hope for convincing investors that the AR/MR headset device could have a chance to be the next star product in consumer electronics.
3. The current market consensus may overestimate AR/VR headset devices’ contribution to key component suppliers over the next few years, particularly in the optical-related.

End of Source Quote

Man those quest numbers are terrible.

 

[AGRacing]

VR will not be a thing until VR porn becomes available on it.

I'm not saying that's right or good. But it is reality.

This guy's wife must read the forum or something.

 

[willothedog]

Man those quest numbers are terrible.

It was the Quest Pro and considering it was £1500, not too bad.

 

[Henry Panic]

It was the Quest Pro and considering it was £1500, not too bad.

They had the price cut since near the start of the year and recently had another to $999.

Meta can't be making any money. It's already lost over $30 bill in over two years supposedly.

From production cut 50% to 20%. Take that, haters.

20% of what though?

 

[Crayon]

20% of what though?

Good question. Give me minute. I'll make up a number and post it on Bloomberg.

 

[K' Dash]

Hopefully after this news, this fad dies away quickly so we can focus those resources on fucking real next gen games.

 

[Fredrik]

This could have been avoided if there was official PC support.

I don’t think it would’ve changed much, would’ve just sold to some PCVR enthusiasts that are now waiting for a new Index.

What would actually change things is big AAA devs jumping in and investing properly with their A teams.

* Microsoft jumping in and allowing us to use PCVR headsets on Xbox and having a real official VR version of Starfield at launch, and a Halo Infinite VR version with hand tracking grapple and aiming, Gears VR, DOOM VR, etc.

* Sony pushing the main teams at Naughty Dog and Santa Monica to make their next TLOU/Uncharted/new IP for PSVR2/3 at launch.

* Activision Blizzard making a proper VR version for the next Call of Duty day 1.

* Ubisoft making a VR version of the next big Assassin’s Creed day 1.

* Valve making Half Life 3 VR exclusive and available on PC with superb usage of the hardware and also on Xbox through the PCVR compatibility mentioned earlier and on PSVR2/3.

* Nintendo jumping into VR.

 

[Rykan]

It's just never going to be a big thing for gaming as long as it's treated like an accessory. It needs to be the main focus of the system. Not a lot of people are going to spend 550$ after having already spend another 500$ just to play some optional VR modes of games that were clearly not designed with VR in mind or some 6 hour long Horizon Spin off.

I understand that nobody wants to take such a huge risk, but I do think it's either an All In or don't even bother situation.

 

[sinnergy]

Well it would always end up like Kinect 2, convenience isn’t there yet .

 

[Sleepwalker]

Hi eddie

 

[Ozriel]

and I think Sony's aim was to create the trend rather than take advantage of it, we're years off before it will become more mainstream.

This was the aim of the original PSVR. This new one is aimed at appealing to a bigger audience.

should still be successful, especially if it gets more support, Sony gets less greedy with software and it gets a price drop.

 

[Banjo64]

I don’t understand Sony’s infatuation with VR.

 

[qbxwhi]

if psvr2 worked on pc, I would buy it. get on it sony !

 

[ByWatterson]

Crazy that a venture capitalist pipe dream turned out to be a venture capitalist pipe dream.

 

[UnNamed]

VR can be entertaining, and there is a market for it.

But VR will never be mainstream, especially when the device cost more than the console/PC which is already expensive.

Another overrated market like the Kinect and motion controls in general.

 

[existensmaximum]

Yeah I don't think anyone expects VR to be the next thing in everyone's home like the smartphone or something, but I can't believe all the negativity. Why is everyone so obsessed with telling us that VR sucks, is doomed etc?

 

[Team Andromeda]

Very sad given how good the tech is in the PSVR2. But like with the Mega CD and how SEGA didn't support it well with In-House software from its main teams, its much the same for the PSVR2

 

[Tomi]

There are few great games on those vr devices and they are cutting production and changing sale estimates?

* SHOCKED *

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

VR’s killer app, when the tech is finally cord- and hassle-free, won’t be video games. This is the main reason it’s not taken the world by storm yet.
When VR is as easy to use and carry as your phone and it becomes integral to an experience like the current social networks, that’s when it’ll reach the tipping point and humanity will be royally fucked for good. I’m sure the gaming applications will be amazing by then, though, so gamers will go out with a bang.

 

[NinjaBoiX]

Can’t wait to pick up a preowned PSVR2 for £200. Even if there’s only a handful of games worth playing, it’s a solid buy at that price.

 

[reksveks]

Why is everyone so obsessed with telling us that VR sucks, is doomed etc?

I would say that there is a difference between vr sucks and vr is doomed but I may be over thinking the second statement. I don't think the current version of VR technology is going to break out of being a niche.

Re the bigger point, I wouldnt take it too seriously, unfortunately I think we (especially on this forum) are generally a bit conservative re changes so anytime there is something new then we don't like it. I think it applies to multiple topics in gaming and obviously everything else.

 

[Davevil]

Since vr causes me heavy motion sickness, selfishly i am glad that the future of industry is still far from adopting vr as main technology