Fastest selling and overall best performing console, good exclusives and more coming soon. Been very good 10 years for Sony fans and no end in sight.Sony fans have taken a beating the last couple of weeks in bad press, the last thing they need is yet another thread telling them how bad their platform is. If they're happy... That's all that matters.
The online service should not have any tie to the physical PS4 discs that I purchased. Yet Sony chose to intertwine physical PS4 games with a cmos/Internet check-in. Itās shitty. Itās unlikely to be an issue but still itās shitty.Yes you are because online servers shutting down for games and a store for an older console being taken down are entirely different things to the backbone of an entire online service being shut down.
First time on SonyGaf?All you fanboys here defending this terrible practice should be ashamed of yourselves. A corporation doesn't love you and no amount of taking it up the ass for your favorite toy will make them love you. You bought a game, you have every right to play it whenever you want. A flaw in design of the console should be fixed, not defended.
I always trust Xbox despite them previously tried a draconian Online Only system and Phil Spencer tried to double on XBL subscription forcing Gamepass Ultimate on everyone last year and only backpedall latter on because of the backlash on social media, i trust them they never tried to do something sneaky on me.
The store is not the licensing serversThat's not the issue. The issue is how the console acts afterwards, it needs to re-authenticate so it will play your games, but the issue is if the store is taken down (something Sony have done recently for the PS3, PSP and Vita) then it would leave the console with no ability to authenticate itself and as such, it will refuse to play games.
Don't forget Kinect "no its not watching you... oops we got caught, yeah it is watching you"I always trust Xbox despite them previously tried a draconian Online Only system and Phil Spencer tried to double on XBL subscription forcing Gamepass Ultimate on everyone last year and only backpedall latter on because of the backlash on social media, i trust them they never tried to do something sneaky on me.
It's not, but it's apart of the overall eroding support. They didn't say patches would be taken down either but it seems some servers jumped the gun on that.The store is not the licensing servers
You do know PC motherboards also use CMOS batteries, right?this is why i love PC.
You do know PC motherboards also use CMOS batteries, right?
And once you replace them, everything works without needing authentication.You do know PC motherboards also use CMOS batteries, right?
It's not, but it's apart of the overall eroding support. They didn't say patches would be taken down either but it seems some servers jumped the gun on that.
Also can I say how amazing it is to see how conditioned people are today to just accept what companies give them? Imagine this kind of attitude during the early Xbox 360 days "oh you got RROD, it happens, just buy another console, you were obviously using it wrong!".
It's a design flaw, we'll get to a point in time where you can play PS1/2, Mega Drive, Dreamcast, etc, but the PS4 and 5 will be bricks. Unless of course Sony patch it towards EoL.
And how long will Sony support PSN on older devices?I repeat the license server is from PSN, not the shop
Fastest selling and overall best performing console, good exclusives and more coming soon. Been very good 10 years for Sony fans and no end in sight.
Last desperate Xbox fans live on fanfiction copium, MS warchest hopium and spend their days spreading FUD because they got no games.
Look im no expert but PS5 already offer Spiderman Morales, Demon Souls, Astro, Sackboy last year...What does PS offer me?
It's not, but it's apart of the overall eroding support. They didn't say patches would be taken down either but it seems some servers jumped the gun on that.
Also can I say how amazing it is to see how conditioned people are today to just accept what companies give them? Imagine this kind of attitude during the early Xbox 360 days "oh you got RROD, it happens, just buy another console, you were obviously using it wrong!".
It's a design flaw, we'll get to a point in time where you can play PS1/2, Mega Drive, Dreamcast, etc, but the PS4 and 5 will be bricks. Unless of course Sony patch it towards EoL.
I love how people tout the best selling console thing like they get the money on their bank accounts. Such a weird thing.
In my IRL enviroment many of the previously PS4 only folk went to own a XSS or XSX only or have it next to their PS5 and that tendency is also seen on this forum. There was a thread recently where was asked which console people prefered most when they owned both and Xbox was leading that poll despite the fact that many PS only fanboys were voting PS.
The warchest is opened isn't it? Nadella said after they bought out Zenimax they weren't done yet. The games will inevitably come don't worry. And the best thing is it will cost us Game Pass Ultimate subscribers not a penny more then what we were already paying.
So it is not and you are still jumping to conclusions or more leaping.It's not, but it's apart of the overall eroding support. They didn't say patches would be taken down either but it seems some servers jumped the gun on that.
Did not read much of the thread? Check. Took time to take a potshot trying to piss people off? Check. At least 1 emoji or gif? Check. Awesome!It's great to know that PlayStation Consoles will become useless Bricks in the Future!
That's why I love Jim Ryan, he does such a great Job and since everyone here is fine with it we all Win
Awesome
I've stated MULTIPLE TIMES that I'm on the wait and see train to see how they handle the fallout after the PS3 and more importantly the PS4. Being savvy to a future issue is not "jumping to conclusions" so back down with that talk.So it is not and you are still jumping to conclusions or more leaping.
Considering they are using the same exact auth mechanism for al these gens, you are still comparing closing the PS3 store to something which is best summarised as PSN as we know it shutting down completelyā¦ as others already commented, at that point the server being up is not the worst thing that is happening and it also means nobody is keeping security measures up.
If they keep the auth servers till the end of time than they do not need to care about PS3/4/5 to fix it as it will not be a problem. Still, sure, if they can do something to keep security up but still avoid even the potential scenario this thread describe it would be best.I mean even if Sony keeps up the authentication servers until the end of time, and no PS3/4/5 CMOS battery ever dies, it's still a dumb design that could probably be fixed in like 20 minutes by one Sony coder, and would instantly eliminate all this negative press about it. I don't understand how anybody is against this, a console shouldn't become a brick because it needs to sync with the trophy system, and this needs to be brought up now because in 20 years or so when this may become an issue, who's to say Sony is going to care about the PS3/4/5 enough to fix it, rather than the PS9 or whatever we're at at that point
I love how people try to justified a bad news for PlayStation... When you can't play Xbox games on XSX/One without internet connexion.
Go to that fastest selling console thread in question to see Xbox fans salty as fuck.I love how people tout the best selling console thing like they get the money on their bank accounts. Such a weird thing.
In my IRL enviroment many of the previously PS4 only folk went to own a XSS or XSX only or have it next to their PS5 and that tendency is also seen on this forum. There was a thread recently where was asked which console people prefered most when they owned both and Xbox was leading that poll despite the fact that many PS only fanboys were voting PS.
The warchest is opened isn't it? Nadella said after they bought out Zenimax they weren't done yet. The games will inevitably come don't worry. And the best thing is it will cost us Game Pass Ultimate subscribers not a penny more then what we were already paying.
There is an offline mode for Xbox. But, I think you gotta connect at least once a month?I love how people try to justified a bad news for PlayStation... When you can't play Xbox games on XSX/One without internet connexion.
It resets your BIOS password, it removes authenticationAnd once you replace them, everything works without needing authentication.
Which of the two ? By working you mean reading the thread and not going by emotions and Xbox > PS feelings like you just said you were a few posts or so ago. So the facts make it a storm in a teacup, but you still go and attack people who do not want to jump in the bandwagon. Fill your boots mate .P Panajev2001a working overhours to defend his precious?
You really want that win this gen so bad dont you.Yet another example of Sony's misleading advertising.
Sony led the charge early last gen against the Xbox One for requiring an online connection to play games. All while also having the only console that ultimately will require an online connection to play.
Hypocrisy at it's finest.
I have had to replace my CMOS battery in my Saturn about two years ago. It was fine. I will be willing to bet you 30 years from now I will be able to play my PS5 if I choose to do so. Odds are I will be playing my PSXI getting ready for the PSXII launch.It's been 30 years and I still use my MegaDrive. Obviously people won't be using their PS5 in 30 years.
Yep, both have the same issue. The only ones to my surprise that allows you to play without internet connection, is the Nintendo Switch.I love how people try to justified a bad news for PlayStation... When you can't play Xbox games on XSX/One without internet connexion.
Just jumping on the aggressive response does not change much, busying yourself.I've stated MULTIPLE TIMES that I'm on the wait and see train to see how they handle the fallout after the PS3 and more importantly the PS4. Being savvy to a future issue is not "jumping to conclusions" so back down with that talk.
Aggressive? I think you're reading into things with a bias.Just jumping on the aggressive response does not change much, busying yourself.
I'm thinking the term planned obsolescence doesn't mean shit to them either. I love Sony games but this is stupid on their part.All you fanboys here defending this terrible practice should be ashamed of yourselves. A corporation doesn't love you and no amount of taking it up the ass for your favorite toy will make them love you. You bought a game, you have every right to play it whenever you want. A flaw in design of the console should be fixed, not defended.
Im pretty sure i have more sex on a Friday than you in seven reincarnationsI'm pretty sure if you own a PS4, and you're not that you're a cuck.
And how long will Sony support PSN on older devices?
Great value is what it offers.Look im no expert but PS5 already offer Spiderman Morales, Demon Souls, Astro, Sackboy last year...
Coming this year is Returnal, Rachet and Deathloop...
A new VR is coming for PS5...
Whats Xbox offer so far?