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[Bobby Roberts]

So JJ gets to put one over on Paramount AND GET 10 mil a year for free?

I mean, who wouldnt do that, but that's still dick of him.

Ruins that kind of deal for the next wave of directors.

Nah, that deal was pretty specific to Abrams, and Abrams alone.

And Abrams doing this to Paramount is only really "dick" if you treat Paramount as if they're a person instead of a giant fucking corporation. Which is what they are, and if they had the sort of leverage Abrams had, they'd have absolutely used it for the good of their company, dick or no.

If you, as an individual, have the opportunity to put one over on a corporation in a manner that benefits you financially with no real downside? Why the fuck wouldn't you do that?

They're a corporation. They don't have feelings. Paramount will hire him back in a second, because they have to.

Corporations aren't people. You can be a dick to them.

 

[AlexFlame116]

Nah

My man RJ is pulling a Finn saber switcheroo and Rey/Finn are gunna happen

Don't make me hope for things!

Wow I really want this.

 

[SpaceWolf]

do you JJ

Yes.

 

[Surfinn]

Don't make me hope for things!

Wow I really want this.

Believe

I'm never talking to any of you fucks again but I will continue to talk about how I'm not talking to any of you.

Lmao

 

[jon bones]

Yes.

i wish i could fuck employers over and get higher paying gigs elsewhere

who wouldnt do this?

Nah, that deal was pretty specific to Abrams, and Abrams alone.

And Abrams doing this to Paramount is only really "dick" if you treat Paramount as if they're a person instead of a multimedia corporation. Which is what they are, and if they had the sort of leverage Abrams had, they'd have absolutely used it for the good of their company, dick or no.

If you, as an individual, have the opportunity to put one over on a corporation in a manner that benefits you financially with no real downside? Why the fuck wouldn't you do that?

They're a corporation. They don't have feelings. Paramount will hire him back in a second, because they have to.

Corporations aren't people. You can be a dick to them.

this is chief 'stanning for corporations' forums tho

Finn×Rey or I'll riot. Let my favorite Stormtrooper get his chance!

literally the only thing i care about star wars is that this happens

interracial relationships... in space!

 

[JCHandsom]

Believe


Lmao

I mean, did people really think that kiss Rey planted on his cheek was platonic or something?

Besides, it's a moot point,

We all know it's gonna be Rey/Finn/Poe

 

[Einchy]

Finn is over Rey now that he has Rose.

 

[SpaceWolf]

Finn/Poe or bust.

 

[Surfinn]

As much as I hate JJs general style, I'm still glad they were able to get him back and replace a potential disaster.

I mean, did people really think that kiss Rey planted on his cheek was platonic or something?

Besides, it's a moot point,

We all know it's gonna be Rey/Finn/Poe

I'm down

 

[Javier23]

Gotta wait for the guys who unironically say that as flawed as the prequels were they were at least "daring" or "tried something new" or [insert other similar irrelevant qualifier] to show up first.

Don't follow SW news or threads and I'm not a massive fan of the franchise, just an average moviegoer. It has just become sort of a tradition for me to go watch every SW at the movie theatre. I mean, it's Star Wars after all.

Anyway, I am basically exactly who you describe so you can count me in. Didn't know it was a thing. I also find TFA too safe and boring *shrugs* Liked RO better.

 

[AlexFlame116]

We all know it's gonna be Rey/Finn/Poe

Finn is over Rey now that he has Rose.

Finn/Poe or bust.

Spoiler

Just kidding guys! ....kind of. Not really.

 

[jett]

I'll be amazed if Finn makes it out of the friendzone.

 

[WillyFive]

Sad for Paramount.

Great for Star Wars.

 

[JCHandsom]

snip

More like get down

 

[AlexFlame116]

More like get down

 

[Tom_Cody]

They could’ve locked him down. They have a contract. But do they really wanna fight that fight? They’d get killed by JJ’s agency not to mention Disney will play hardball with actors and directors and releases days and etc etc etc. A nightmare scenario

the article explained why paramount had no choice even if they had an ironclad contract. it's not about the lawyers, it's about where it is as a company that talents wants/does not want to work for.

Read the article maybe? Paramount willingly let him go for a variety of reasons even if they are pissed about it.

That makes sense.

 

[WadiumArcadium]

Never mind.

 

[televator]

I'm okay with this. JJ did fine with 7.

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

Who the fuck is Rose?

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

I hope that one day Paramount gets in so deep that they have to sell the Star Trek film rights to CBS so we can finally get a TV series set after the destruction of Romulus.

 

[televator]

Obi-Wan/Anakin gifs are the best.

Why am I reading this in a Sean Conery voice?

 

[Blader]

i wish i could fuck employers over and get higher paying gigs elsewhere

who wouldnt do this?

Get higher paying gigs elsewhere while still cashing 10 million a year from your other employer :lol

 

[sphagnum]

literally the only thing i care about star wars is that this happens

interracial relationships... in space!

If Finn and Rose get together it will still be an interracial relationship.

 

[firelogic]

Yeah, I stumbled across this article earlier.

Still pretty gutted that JJ is returning. Always found him to be a very bland film-maker and Force Awakens didn't do a huge amount to change that opinion for me. I really wish Lucasfilm got someone else.

Is that really a problem with JJ or just a product of making a movie for Lucasfilm/Disney? I'm of the opinion that they could have gotten any director that played ball and we'd end up with pretty much the same movie. The person in the director's chair is just there to carry out what the big heads want, not to inject their own ideas or style into it. Same goes for the MCU minus James Gunn. But I think that's just do to Guardians being more sci-fi than the other properties.

 

[sphagnum]

Who the fuck is Rose?

New character.

 

[Blader]

Is that really a problem with JJ or just a product of making a movie for Lucasfilm/Disney? I'm of the opinion that they could have gotten any director that played ball and we'd end up with pretty much the same movie. The person in the director's chair is just there to carry out what the big heads want, not to inject their own ideas or style into it. Same goes for the MCU minus James Gunn. But I think that's just do to Guardians being more sci-fi than the other properties.

You think that James Gunn is literally the only director Marvel could get capable of doing a sci-fi movie? And that 'being more sci-fi' makes it more easy for a director to leave their stamp on it?

The Force Awakens is very much JJ's movie. I don't know how you watch any of his previous films and think TFA stands out as an outlier stylistically or tonally.

 

[Grisby]

Wow, quite a lot of drama. Didn't know Paramount wasn't doing so hot.

Why wouldn't you jilt Paramount.

Fuckin' look at 'em.

What are they gonna do about it

nothing.

Reading this in Robert Deniro's voice has made my day better.

 

[jon bones]

Get higher paying gigs elsewhere while still cashing 10 million a year from your other employer :lol

literally The American Dream

my immigrant parents would cry if i could pull that off

 

[bill0527]

If there’s one thing that is super concerning, it’s the time frame.

They pretty much just tossed a bunch of stuff they were writing in the past year by the looks of it.

JJ has the benefit that he and Kasdan decided how this trilogy should go when they started TFA. I'm sure the ideas of how this trilogy should end were already in place. Plus he knows the characters since he's the one that created them.

All of this may not add up to much in the grand scheme of things but in theory, this should help his creative process move along smoother. That's the advantage of bringing him back rather than bringing another director in cold. I'm sure he wouldnt have taken the job if he didn't think he could deliver on time. I'm also sure that the date being moved to December was part of his deal even though it didn't get announced until a day or so later.

 

[Diprosalic]

future generations will mock us for not realizing how great "Mother!" was.

 

[Blader]

JJ has the benefit that he and Kasdan decided how this trilogy should go when they started TFA. I'm sure the ideas of how this trilogy should end were already in place. Plus he knows the characters since he's the one that created them.

By all accounts, it's just the opposite: JJ and Kasdan were only concerned with making TFA, and left it up to Rian and Trevorrow to make up their own stories and close out the trilogy. I'm sure there are some really broad strokes questions like, who are Rey's parents and who/what is Snoke, that JJ has answers for in the back of his head (or maybe he doesn't). But as far as how the trilogy ends, I don't think he'll know until he starts writing this script.

 

[Godzilla's Left Toe]

Fuck Paramount for doing nothing.

 

[fade_]

JJ is like a backpage escort. Fun in the moment but ultimately unmemorable and left questioning its worth afterward.

 

[takriel]

Why wouldn't you jilt Paramount.

Fuckin' look at 'em.

What are they gonna do about it

nothing.

Now you're just making me angry on purpose.

 

[kraspkibble]

i'm glad he's coming back. maybe to some of the older hardcore fans he isn't up to it but for me he made the movie that finally got me into star wars. i had seen the star wars movies before in fact my best friend loved star wars and wouldn't shut up about it. it just never interested me until TFA. so yeah i'm happy he's coming back to finish off the trilogy.

 

[bill0527]

JJ is like a backpage escort. Fun in the moment but ultimately unmemorable and left questioning its worth afterward.

I'd rather have a forgettable escort that's fun for 10 minutes rather than one who wants to tie me up and shit all over my face.

 

[DeathyBoy]

Irvin Kershner best Star Wars director actually.

People are bitching about JJ because they wanted a film that would have an actual style to it and an auteur's touch, instead of a bland, cartoonish, filmmaking-by-committee tone, which is exactly what The Force Awakens turned out to have.

This boggles my mind given it's screaming with JJ tropes. Dude is a walking trope.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

The person in the director's chair is just there to carry out what the big heads want

That's not really how this works at Lucasfilm.

The people hired get to come up with their own story.

If it's a good story and the execs agree that it'll work as the sort of movie they want to release, they get to make that movie. The execs don't have a story in mind and then order the talent to make it to specifications. Nobody at Lucasfilm had any idea what Episode 8 was going to be until Rian Johnson wrote it and they said "Okay, cool. Let's do that."

They didn't know what Episode 9 was gonna be until Trevorrow wrote it and they were like "I don't like this. Try again."

"Try again'

"We're gonna get someone to help you."

"Okay you can go now."

This boggles my mind given it's screaming with JJ tropes. Dude is a walking trope.

Setting aside the obviousness of TFA being a JJ Abrams movie in easily identifiable ways, the notion of people wanting "an auteur's touch" IMMEDIATELY AFTER praising IRVIN KERSHNER is what had me all picardmalfunction.gif

"They wanted a film that had actual style to it! Like the identifiable, remarkable, auteur driven style of...

...uh...

 

[Bandini]

Hold up, they're paying this dude $10m a year to not make movies? That's hilarious.

What a sad state of affairs.

 

[yukianderson]

Still pretty gutted that JJ is returning.

I'm super happy that JJ is returning.

 

[Surfinn]

JJ has the benefit that he and Kasdan decided how this trilogy should go when they started TFA. I'm sure the ideas of how this trilogy should end were already in place. Plus he knows the characters since he's the one that created them.

All of this may not add up to much in the grand scheme of things but in theory, this should help his creative process move along smoother. That's the advantage of bringing him back rather than bringing another director in cold. I'm sure he wouldnt have taken the job if he didn't think he could deliver on time. I'm also sure that the date being moved to December was part of his deal even though it didn't get announced until a day or so later.

What's interesting is RJ has said that he had complete freedom on the script and direction of TLJ. He said the idea that there were even BULLET POINTS of things to be done or accomplished with his film is complete bullshit

RJ also added that LF was basically like "do a great SW movie"

 

[-griffy-]

I think it's because his movies always come off as amateurish and everyone still thinks "once he gets more experience under his belt, he'll make a really good movie".

The universe some of you guys live in is fascinating.

 

[Surfinn]

I think it's because his movies always come off as amateurish and everyone still thinks "once he gets more experience under his belt, he'll make a really good movie".

While I don't care much for his directorial style..

Yeah his films are made competently and don't come off as "amateurish"

 

[Chmpocalypse]

Best Star Wars director returns.

Um

No

He didn't direct Empire

 

[borghe]

Still pretty gutted that JJ is returning.

I'm super happy that JJ is returning.

hey look it's a star wars thread!

(I am super happy also)

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

Why not Gareth Edwards?

Rogue One made me forget what FA was even about.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Why not Gareth Edwards?

Because he already lost control of Rogue One and had to have his film taken over by Tony Gilroy (for the 2nd time in a row, in fact).

 

[Surfinn]

Why not Gareth Edwards?

Rogue One made me forget what FA was even about.

Cuz he's generally fucking horrible with characters and their interactions. Though I did like R1.

 

[golem]

If you, as an individual, have the opportunity to put one over on a corporation in a manner that benefits you financially with no real downside? Why the fuck wouldn't you do that?

They're a corporation. They don't have feelings. Paramount will hire him back in a second, because they have to.

Corporations aren't people. You can be a dick to them.

Its funny to see the reaction of people when theres finally a situation where the talent has leverage over a corporation.

 

[Blader]

Because he already lost control of Rogue One and had to have his film taken over by Tony Gilroy (for the 2nd time in a row, in fact).

Was Gilroy on Godzilla too?