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[Chuck Berry]

Didn't even recognize him. Are those contacts he's wearing? Is that his real hair?

 

[MMaRsu]

 

[SJRB]

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Latest trailer is great, can't wait to watch this

 

[jason10mm]

Didn't even recognize him. Are those contacts he's wearing? Is that his real hair?

well, he is a Facedancer, aka a shapeshifter, so wouldn't surprise me if that look is supposed to be a little artificial.

 

[EviLore]

Honestly, the revisionism for this bothers me more than Nolan's Odyssey.

As expected after Part 2's nonsense, now the central conflict is Paul vs…Chani?

And it's just so weak to explicitly remove the Jihad and Messiah themes so as not to upset people.

Bad fanfiction.

Still looks cool otherwise and I'll see it, but be sure to read the books.

 

[Tams]

As far as Hollywood goes, this is a pretty good adaptation.

But it's very much an adaptation. The first film is great and pretty close to the first book. The second is still good, but tries to do too much of its own thing.

Not that the books are that great to read. Herbert was shit at writing dialogue. My last reread was painful and I gave up.

It's the world building that Herbert was great at, and weaving the stories in. This film trilogy does a similarly fantastic job at world building but the story has lost its course.

 

[jason10mm]

As far as Hollywood goes, this is a pretty good adaptation.

But it's very much an adaptation. The first film is great and pretty close to the first book. The second is still good, but tries to do too much of its own thing.

Not that the books are that great to read. Herbert was shit at writing dialogue. My last reread was painful and I gave up.

It's the world building that Herbert was great at, and weaving the stories in. This film trilogy does a similarly fantastic job at world building but the story has lost its course.

One big problem of a lot of 'modern' adaptations is they feel this irresistible urge to inflate the agency of every female character. So they no longer serve the story or function to drive the main characters journey, instead they become distractions or hurdles for the flow of the story. The princess isn't there to be rescued, she MUST rescue herself kinda stuff. And since modern theory tells us EVERYONE was misogynist back in the day, then by default every female character was written to be subject to some man. So even if the female character is written in a perfectly normal way, they just gotta invert all her motivations to say "see how independent she is!" or to create new drama to fill screentime because they have some obligation to give the side characters equal time.

 

[EviLore]

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

I did love Part 1 and Part 2 despite Zendaya acting not being that great but one of my issues with these films is how they took a lot of the weirdness from the books out of the films and how much they are focusing on Chani

One big problem of a lot of 'modern' adaptations is they feel this irresistible urge to inflate the agency of every female character. So they no longer serve the story or function to drive the main characters journey, instead they become distractions or hurdles for the flow of the story. The princess isn't there to be rescued, she MUST rescue herself kinda stuff. And since modern theory tells us EVERYONE was misogynist back in the day, then by default every female character was written to be subject to some man. So even if the female character is written in a perfectly normal way, they just gotta invert all her motivations to say "see how independent she is!" or to create new drama to fill screentime because they have some obligation to give the side characters equal time.

That's my main issue with these modern adaptations of the books. The books dealing with Atredies, Chani was an important character but didn't overshadow the main characters. I was worried when Villeneuve said that when reading the books, he found some elements of them that bothered him and is looking to change with his adaptations of the books. I'm still looking forward to this but they should have gotten a better actress than Zendaya and they shouldn't have modernize Chani. I really love the weirdness of the books and I feel that they really toned that aspect down in these films so far. But we shall see how this film turns out

 

[Trilobit]

Honestly, the revisionism for this bothers me more than Nolan's Odyssey.

As expected after Part 2's nonsense, now the central conflict is Paul vs…Chani?

And it's just so weak to explicitly remove the Jihad and Messiah themes so as not to upset people.

Bad fanfiction.

Still looks cool otherwise and I'll see it, but be sure to read the books.

It felt like I was watching the trailer for Marriage Story: Space Edition, rather than an epic scifi movie.

 

[SupaComputa]

Well to be honest the book is worse on that front, it's almost entirely political and about the relationships between the characters breaking down. It's nowhere as cookie cutter as what's been shown, but there's not much "epic sci-fying" in the novel. Except the face dancers and gholas I guess.

 

[Tams]

Ffs.

I enjoyed the other films in spite of Zendaya being in them. Chani's not that interesting a character either, but is a key piece.

You know what, I might skip this, in the cinema at least, because of Zendaya.