-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
[DF] Resident Evil Village: The Digital Foundry Tech Review + PS5, Xbox Series X|S Analysis!
- Thread starter 3liteDragon
- Start date
saintjules
Member
Better performance with RT on Series X during heavy sequences, very fast loading time on PS5, solid performance on both.
summary:
There needs to be a video showcasing the evolution to this meme.
rickybooby87
Member
You got that LG CX 48"?
rofif
Banned
The new c1 yes
Umbasaborne
Banned
Had ps5 pre ordered, but this made me switch to the series x version, on top of using the time zone trick to play a day early. Im enjoying it so far
Control the next gen versions.
Thanks.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
all this arguing back and forth, and there is only one console that has VRR and delivers a smooth experience with raytracing enabled if you have invested in the hardware to take advantage of it.
I think everyone needs to give
Riky
some props here, because the VRR flex is very real in this game. its the perfect example of why both consoles needed it yesterday.
I was very real about my investment into next gen and I worked damn hard to secure both consoles and an LG CX. Sony told me the PS5 would have VRR and here I am 6 months later with no update. Of course this is just my opinion but I didn't expect Sony to be behind Xbox here.
I always used to see Xbox as a software company and Sony as hardware. MS is kicking ass in its hardware and software support this Gen.
I think everyone needs to give
Riky
some props here, because the VRR flex is very real in this game. its the perfect example of why both consoles needed it yesterday. I was very real about my investment into next gen and I worked damn hard to secure both consoles and an LG CX. Sony told me the PS5 would have VRR and here I am 6 months later with no update. Of course this is just my opinion but I didn't expect Sony to be behind Xbox here.
I always used to see Xbox as a software company and Sony as hardware. MS is kicking ass in its hardware and software support this Gen.
assurdum
Banned
Is it a MS PR marketing spin or an opinion this post? Yeah OS typical are unstable on launch on playstation unfortunately, I'm not defending it but what about the monster who should destroy the ps5 hardware and at launch indeed was underperforming? What about the exclusive games? We should some prop to Riky? He talk as a MS PR an nothing more and troll about everything playstation, I don't give a prop to who makes just console war in his posts, sorryall this arguing back and forth, and there is only one console that has VRR and delivers a smooth experience with raytracing enabled if you have invested in the hardware to take advantage of it.
I think everyone needs to give
I was very real about my investment into next gen and I worked damn hard to secure both consoles and an LG CX. Sony told me the PS5 would have VRR and here I am 6 months later with no update. Of course this is just my opinion but I didn't expect Sony to be behind Xbox here.
I always used to see Xbox as a software company and Sony as hardware. MS is kicking ass in its hardware and software support this Gen.
Last edited:
Negotiator101
Member
You're getting really annoyed by a Series X performance advantage, its time to take a break, step away and relax. 10 to 15 percent is noticeable but but not anything to worry about my friend.
RobRSG
Member
MasterCornholio
Member
I don't think it's an issue with this game but with other titles like Ratchet longer loading times might get annoying.
ethomaz
Banned
There is no RE7 PS5 version.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Im just trying to have a bit of fun and to give Riky some deserved props for the VRR love. They get a lot of shit about it haha.
Both consoles are powerful and MS is ahead on OS and features such as VRR. there is nothing wrong with highlighting that. We should be demanding that Sony get's the features they said would be on the console out there. VRR is a game changer, it simply is. Just mentioning it.
I absolutely rate both consoles, and I want my PS5 to get VRR as soon as possible...also expandable storage but it is what it is.
assurdum
Banned
I agre it's time to take a break and stop to provocate the other one.
ethomaz
Banned
You guys needs to decide.all this arguing back and forth, and there is only one console that has VRR and delivers a smooth experience with raytracing enabled if you have invested in the hardware to take advantage of it.
I think everyone needs to give
I was very real about my investment into next gen and I worked damn hard to secure both consoles and an LG CX. Sony told me the PS5 would have VRR and here I am 6 months later with no update. Of course this is just my opinion but I didn't expect Sony to be behind Xbox here.
I always used to see Xbox as a software company and Sony as hardware. MS is kicking ass in its hardware and software support this Gen.
Or Series lacks the tools and games.
Or it is kicking asses in software department.
Thirty7ven
Banned
The loading time difference in RE has no impact on the experience, just like the performance difference doesn’t but it is nonetheless interesting to observe and speculate. We are all waiting for U5 and next gen games that start using the I/O in these machines for real, in the sense that the games are developed with them in mind from the get go. Resident Evil is a PS4 game with next gen topping.
Werewolfgrandma
Banned
I doubt Xbox io was leveraged much. Game only loads about a second slower on my "slow" PC SSD
in reality is both...the os seem to be more complete that what you have on ps5 (software department) but at the same time the total change of architecture gave ms the possibility to improve the gdk, well they did it and this is taking longer than usual ... also because of covid. Both console have stuff no ready at lunch ..VRR..or ssd hw expansions as example on the ps5.....and the famous "tools" in the xsx/s...it is what it is
Last edited:
yamaci17
Member
VRR is not magic.Digital Foundry praises because they need to, so that they can cover developers' laziness.
Even if there isn't tear or judder, a rocky framerate never feels smooth as much as a locked framerate.
I see VRR as a gimmick that should only be used for minor FPS variatons between 57-60.
Even if there isn't tear or judder, a rocky framerate never feels smooth as much as a locked framerate.
I see VRR as a gimmick that should only be used for minor FPS variatons between 57-60.
Werewolfgrandma
Banned
So the majority of Xbox drops in this game?
ShinraMiddleMananger
Banned
There you have it, PS5 weaker hardware is holding back the Series X version and sony paid capcom to handicap it so they dont get destroyed in the DF analysis. I'm guessing this will be common throughout the gen.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Do you use it, have you used it. It's a game changer. I used G sync for years and cant believe TVs got VRR. It's a brilliant technology.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
There are plenty of Xbox features to deal with RAM management and storage. Sampler feedback streaming and velocity architecture will lower the amount of data needed to be stored in RAM at any given time. MS chose to go with a software focused solution to deal with memory management over an exotic storage solution.
As demonstrated both features have to be implemented to be of any benefit. Hence many games in the past loading only a few seconds faster on PS5 despite the paper difference in speed.
Negotiator101
Member
You really? I was saving him from getting so wound up over what is nothing, that's all.
Capcom did a really good job on both.
They're as close as you can get and it's good to see they took advantage of all the new features on PS5 (ray tracing with 60fps target, really fast loadings, reduced install size with data compression, Tempest engine, Dual Sense) even though we're still looking fundamentally at a cross gen game.
I will start playing it tonight.
They're as close as you can get and it's good to see they took advantage of all the new features on PS5 (ray tracing with 60fps target, really fast loadings, reduced install size with data compression, Tempest engine, Dual Sense) even though we're still looking fundamentally at a cross gen game.
I will start playing it tonight.
thatJohann
Member
Not sure whether to get this on PS5 or Series X.
I love the instant loading on PS5. I love the better performance of Series X. My tv doesn’t have VRR so maybe I should just go PS5.
I love the instant loading on PS5. I love the better performance of Series X. My tv doesn’t have VRR so maybe I should just go PS5.
Mister Wolf
Member
Yeah someone trying to downplay VRR is silly. Especially with its years of past use on PC when it was labeled gsync/freesync. Gsync/VRR's introduction to gaming was more important than HDR, RT, DLSS or anything else thats come to gaming in the past years.
Last edited:
rofif
Banned
Vrr really helps. Especially in 40 to 60hz range.
I play on PC and getting 120 with drips to 70 and it feels really good all the way. And that's on lg oled which are known to have not the best vrr but I don't see any problems. It plays and feels perfect. If not for vrr, I would have to lock to 60fps with half gsync of 120hz display. But thanks to it I am averaging probably 90
Dodkrake
Banned
Yeah.
Xbox Support
support.xbox.com
Smart Delivery is a new technology introduced with Xbox Series X|S consoles. When purchasing a game with Smart Delivery, the best version of the game is automatically delivered to your console, regardless of generation – no extra steps required from you. We’ve got answers to common questions about Smart Delivery here.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
lol we are still living in this fantasy?
So Series S version is what, 8 GB in total? hahaha
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
You're the same guy who got caught bragging about performance lead few months ago on THPS 1+2 and when the results came out, you wanted people to stop talking about the better performance on the PS5.
[VG TECH] Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1+2 PS5 & Xbox Series X|S Frame Rate Test
DF started the tools talk, and Sony fanboys ran with it for months. I have said all this already, the thread is there to check. There is no right or wrong to it As the saying goes 'if in doubt, smilie it out'. No sony fanboys mocked Xbox fanboys using this as a defense....Why would sony...
I don't care if XSX performs better. It's funny to watch people cherry pick something and then get mad at other people for correcting them.
Riky
$MSFT
Yeah.
Xbox Support
Smart Delivery is a new technology introduced with Xbox Series X|S consoles. When purchasing a game with Smart Delivery, the best version of the game is automatically delivered to your console, regardless of generation – no extra steps required from you. We’ve got answers to common questions about Smart Delivery here.
And?
Riky
$MSFT
lol we are still living in this fantasy?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha,
They probably share some data.
Thirty7ven
Banned
VRR isnt downplayed or dismissed. It's a bit like HDR, how many people have displays with good HDR? With VRR it's even worse, because it's such a recent addition to the market, and only some TVs support it.
It's great for those who have it, it's great that Xbox already supports it (benefit of MS not selling TVs, meanwhile Sony won't enable VRR on PS5 because they don't have TVs supporting it yet), and as it becomes more common more and more people will be in on it and framerate fluctuations will matter even less.
assurdum
Banned
It's really that tough stop to be so aggressive for a second? That's what I'm simply saying
Last edited:
assurdum
Banned
grfunkulus
Banned
I would argue that it's only really useful at lower framerates unless you're really, REALLY sensitive to tearing. Otherwise, if you're in the 90-120fps+ territory, the difference is going to be minimal. Since I switched to higher end GPUs (2080 and then 3080), I've never felt the need to even engage gsync on my monitor. Hardcore PC gamers probably would benefit more from something like having a halfway decent HDR implementation (and matching monitor contrast and peak brightness improvements).
Then again, console games targeting 4k60 would make much more frequent and effective use of this and already have the contrast and HDR thing down with high end VA panel TVs. SOO, yeah, there's really no reason to downplay it and the Sony Ponies that haven't come around on it will surely do so the moment it's farted into existence by Cerny on the platform. Just watch.
Last edited:
Fredrik
Member
Yup, I can’t play on PC without gsync, that’s how effective it is. There used to be thread after thread praising it. Console gamers haven’t experienced it yet though, and since you can’t show a smooth 57fps video on a 60fps Youtube video things will be like this until they have a VRR capable TV and can see it with their own eyes.
Negotiator101
Member
Aggressive? I'm not sure how you got that from my post. Sarcasm is something I am guilty of doing but not aggressive, I'll try to be more courteous.
Dodkrake
Banned
So the XSX version does not include the XSS version. Just pointing out, again, how you like to selectively misremember things in the name of console warring. It's ok that the XSX version is bigger than the PS5 version, it won't hurt you.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
PS5 + PS5 DE have the same smaller game package while XSX pay for a bigger download because of the XSX version…lol we are still living in this fantasy?
. Yeah, right… I would not use it as an excuse Riky .
intheinbetween
Member
Just imagine if there were no technical parity clause..
GHG
Gold Member
Did it recover after restarting the game?
I noticed something similar when changing the resolution up/down in the demo version. After moving it down (which makes it even more strange) it would tank below 20fps and stay there unless I restarted the game.
The series S would be better than the PS5 version then! Unlimited possibilities.
Last edited:
Riky
$MSFT
I actually deal in facts, you're wrong.
I've downloaded RE to my Series X storage card, played the game. I then take the card and plug into my Series S and guess what? It plays with no additional data! How does it do this?
A) Magic
B) The files for both versions are in one download.
You'll work it out eventually.
Last edited: