BumblebeeCody
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OOOOOHHH. So it does work like burst on Oneechanbara. Good good.
Pretty much
Keep up with your Credo practice
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Damn I need to get my Lady and Trish submission in!
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Devil May Cry 4 Special Edition |OT| Two girls, one motivated Vergil
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Pretty much
Keep up with your Credo practice
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Damn I need to get my Lady and Trish submission in!
BKatastrophe
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My bad. I've been alternating between this and Arkham Knight, and I haven't gotten Dante's Pandora yet (played Vergil and Lady/Trish first), so it's been awhile. Still, it doesn't really add too much to her as a character.
roflwaffles
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I miss the PC version where I could mod the Rebellion into Sparda. Never really dug the Rebellion much after using DMC1 Sparda DT.
Look how much more badass the opening is with Sparda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRWVGnsiCQk
Look how much more badass the opening is with Sparda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRWVGnsiCQk
i'm actually the other way around, i think the sparda looks pretty silly (and that the force edge looks really silly)
i ended up replacing trish's sparda with rebellion even
as for 'advanced mechanics' and trish...
i think she has just release mechanics on her volcano but that might just be placebo though. i dunno, i feel like i'm missing something obvious and there's something really cool she can do that is unlisted involving her DT or somethin'
Get all orbs, no damage, no item and at least an A with time should do it but getting S with time shouldn't be hard.
There are few players who can play well enough for a tournament and some of us are likely busy. The tournament player base are likely pretty old peeps by now. lol DMC3 was 2005 so a lot of teenagers to early 20s started there (myself included), with birth dates around the mid 80s to 90s. The DMC fanbase would have kicked up in the early bunch more then the later, bunch of 90s kids doing painfully slow weapon swaps. All the youngers are into Bayonetta and its streamlined play. They never struggled a day in their action gaming lives. QTE.
I have only interest in Vergil but if I have more time for Lady and Trish, I almost promise entries. I don't want to Justin Wong the thing though so it would be great to get more people on board.
Where are more Vergil tech videos? I need to note the quirks that are out there that I have yet to see.
Same here. I was going to only post stuff for Vergil but after dumping all the Proud Souls I got from Vergil's LDK run into Lady, I could probably submit an entry.
Figured this would be of interest to Itsuno/Dragon's Dogma fans:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=171179447&postcount=11
According to his impressions DDO feels very much like an offline DD.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=171179447&postcount=11
According to his impressions DDO feels very much like an offline DD.
Is there a trick to change it to English?
i don't think so, i just looked at the translated version and then guessed what changed characters based on that
Seems like it's more of an online game than something like the Souls games, but not massively like an MMO. Sounds very promising. Let's hope they can deliver.
In my headcanon, demon bosses we don't get Devil Arms or Styles from are experiments by Mundus, and as such don't have souls to give. Leviathan's bio says it was an experiment, and it's the only non-generic demon boss in 3 we don't get anything from. And it's consistent with the RE4 origins of the series where Mundus was Oswell Spencer and bosses like Nightmare and Griffon were G-virus mutations.
As for Gilgamesh, Pandora and Lucifer, they were already defeated by someone. Either the Order or Sparda (or Vergil). The story only says the Order was targeting Devil Arms, which could mean either they defeated the demons themselves or someone had already done it.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure what you've described is canon. Dante grabs each Devil Arm from the gate, as it's a small light positioned on a pedestal next to each one, not from the defeated devil.
You master it like you master EX Rev of Nero.
You basically just start hitting attacks one at a time and get the feel for the timing for the Perfect Judgment Cut. Like you do the first hit of Yamato and try to Judgment Cut that. Then the 2nd hit, 3rd hits, Rapid Slash, Hightime, different attacks of Aerial Rave, the alternate combos, the relaunch combo etc.
You do this against no opponents first of course (basically just hitting air in some stage).
The back to back Judgment Cuts is a super advance technique though and the elevating one is probably a glitch. Better to first learn the Judgement Cuts per move of Yamato before trying to do Judgment Cuts within Judgment Cuts.
Each normal has a different hold timing, but it's always on the first few frames of the charge. In other words, release earlier than later. For the judgment cut chains, I think it's just really fast charge timing. For the elevating judgment cuts, you need to alternate judgment cut and trick up, canceling the trick up.
That would be one of the few positives of a Sparda prequel: Possible boss fights against Alastor, Ifrit, Artemis and the weapons from 4.
Try to learn the timing of each individual attack. Like Guardian says, each attack has a different window. It's not too difficult IMO because muscle memory starts to kick in and makes it easier to pull off.
BKatastrophe
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The Order was also kidnapping demons. Presumably for Agnus so he could make his own (fuck Cutlasses Agnus! Fuck em!)
Got ya. Thanks. Any idea which attack has what kind of window? I'm at work so I can't experiment at the moment, but I def will when I get to my apartment.
Basically you just press and hold the button then release after you have charged for like half a second. The charge is usually quicker than you might think.
The exceptions are moves that have a sheathing animation like the Combo II of Yamato (the 3 hit combo). You have to release the charge after he completes the sheathing animation because the sheathing animation is counted in the recovery animation.
You can view this video to get an idea of it.
ShinMaruku
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Angus and Credo are the best bosses to do finshers on. Which ones are your faves?
Can anybody show you you can punch the pope out of the savior with buster?
Can anybody show you you can punch the pope out of the savior with buster?
Describing frame windows in detail is a bit beyond my existing vocabulary, but I can give you tips. Start with grounded Upper Slash. As you have to release the button then tap it again in order to perform Judgement Cut, it makes it a lot easier to time correctly. Just time the release to when the cutting part of the animation finishes. Another easy one is Yamato Combo II, for which the window is just as he closes the sheath.
Im pretty sure you just time Nero's buster to connect with the Savior's giant punch attack.
darkslayer101
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DT berial head grab, DAT aerial rave
Just buster when statue does the its punch at the right time
ShinMaruku
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Hmmm. I'll give it a shot.
I forgot about Berialls ex devil bringer. If only I could do it to hit him with Obliteration slash after.
robotzombie
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you can do this? Ugh, I really hate all the stuff I forget about this game...
Yeah, it looks so awesome too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iJfSxnZoLw
Hope they do more of this stuff in the sequel if he is playable there.
robotzombie
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Awesome! I don't think I ever knew you could buster the echidna's charge...
And I definitely didn't know about the awesome counter to the lizard man spin charge
Seems like a lot of people, not just casuals, but DMC players included, are unaware of a lot of the simple but awesome things you can do in DMC4. We should make a short compilation video showing off some of the awesome things you can do that doesn't involve any complex mechanics or elaborate combos, like Nero Buster-parrying attacks, and now stuff like Vergil's taunt parry.
something like this would be welcomed and awesome. While the really complex stuff is awesome to watch I think it can also scare off a lot of people too
Too early to make a video like that when stuff is still being discovered on the new characters (basically Vergil).
Damn. I've never realized that aspect.
Just when I thought I was out...DMC4 pulls me back in.
We could make one for Nero and Dante, then make a second version with the new characters at a later date. We could end the first video with a quick preview of Vergil.
The point of it is mainly to show off aspects of the game that anyone could do with a bit of practice.
Well, true, but I imagine it could work as a promo tool for the series. So many of the combo videos are overwhelming to Joe NeoGAF and Kate YouTube. Something that compiles some of the accessible awesome aspects of the game could serve to raise interest in DMC, if just for a few people.
I might take a crack at it when I get back from vacation. Just thinking about this gets me excited.
I think there are enough Nero/Dante videos out there.
But it's cool if someone would want to do it.
I have a similar issue with the Japanese version. Those outfits should be available right from the start-- I am prompted to select an outfit for Lady, but not for Trish.
BTW for anyone wondering, the Japanese version also runs in full English.
That's odd. Redownloading doesn't help?
I think a fun little "Did you know...?" about DMC4SE could be neat. Just little interesting quirks and tricks like counter buster options or mashing for damage during animations... stuff like that. You'd have to figure out off the bat where the line should be drawn, though. Should something like distortion or full steam be added as a concept?
badcrumble
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This is pretty true. I'm much happier with enemies punishing you for just attacking them willy-nilly than I am with enemies that shield themselves so it's harder to do so. Getting smacked in the face is the best way to teach you not to do that, but DMC4's heavy reliance on 'shielded' and 'vulnerable' states for so many enemies is a big bummer for sure.
And I hope we see Mundus as a Devil Arm. It'd be pretty badass to have a new enemy appear wielding Mundus (and a very to-the-point way of solving that whole escalation problem we discussed a while ago).
That would be interesting. It'll also be interesting to see what kind of weapon a Devil Arm Mundus would be.
Vergil wielding Yamato, Sparda and Mundus.
Bam, there's your final boss/superboss.
That sounds like a good idea. DRI would work but Full Steam might be a bit much. I've played 4 a lot but I've only ever done the God Fist once or twice.
It could work if he was a non-canon superboss. Essentially a dream match.
But yeah, story-wise there is no way, unless Dante was wielding Mundus or something of equivalent or superior power.
Bam, there's your final boss/superboss.
That sounds like a good idea. DRI would work but Full Steam might be a bit much. I've played 4 a lot but I've only ever done the God Fist once or twice.
It could work if he was a non-canon superboss. Essentially a dream match.
But yeah, story-wise there is no way, unless Dante was wielding Mundus or something of equivalent or superior power.
Dante beat Vergil when Vergil had Force Edge. I don't think Dante beating a Sparda wielding Vergil is completely preposterous especially since Uncle Dante is probably on par with Sparda himself in terms of power. I could buy Dante winning that fight with a little assistance from Nero, Trish, and Lady.
EvilKatarn
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Haven't really dicked around with Vergil's DT much.
https://youtu.be/w-vCCAxyE4s?t=2m49s
What's the input for this bigass judgment cut?
https://youtu.be/w-vCCAxyE4s?t=2m49s
What's the input for this bigass judgment cut?
Triangle + Circle / Y + B with default controls, but you need to have Concentration at level 3 and in DT.
Yup, and you have to have your Concentration gauge and DT gauge up as well.
Uncle Dante is not at the power of Sparda at all.
When Dante goes into the Sparda DT in DMC1 he is basically going Super Saiyan mode.
Like DMC1 Dante (who was stronger than DMC3 Dante) couldn't even TOUCH Mundus who just looked at him and just incapacitated him. Dante would've suffered the same fate as Vergil if Dante didn't have Sparda's sword. When he activated the Sparda's sword true power he was able to regain control of his body and able to fight Mundus on a different dimensional plane.
Vergil having access to that power against Dante would be a no contest. Having help from Nero/Trish/Lady wouldn't do shit. It would be like non SSJ Goku trying to take on final form Freeza with Krillin, Gohan and Piccolo... power level difference is way too high.
The only way you can explain it is if Dante was able to attain that Sparda power level on his own by transforming past his own DT form which is the DDT in DMC2's case. Since that hasn't happened yet in DMC4, that is the only way you could actually explain Dante taking on Vergil with Sparda sword.
ShinMaruku
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www.twitch.tv/shinmaruku any pointers for Trish?