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Developers are going to program for the Series X first and then port to the Series S.
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SlimeGooGoo
Party Gooper
So Series S only gets ports?
So disappointed...
So disappointed...
Jon Neu
Banned
The fastest, cheapest and best ports ever.
When DF's analysis of games start to drop and some on the Series S show better perfomance than the PS5...
Oh boy, it's coming.
hyperbertha
Member
Ram is lower no? Not as simple as 'scaling down resolution' then. Troubleshoot city.
Agnostic2020
Member
That PS4 pro like ram in XSS tells u other wise . But sure believe PR.
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Cert.in.Death
Member
Pass me some Kool Aid
Jon Neu
Banned
Already adressed on the video too.
Series S has the optimal ram to scale from the Series X more demanding resolutions. It's literally a console designed for scalability.
Iced Arcade
Member
Honestly you are going to see every attempt at shitting on Xbox this week seeing they came out with a couple heavy haymakers.
Lots of missing keys from keyboards this week lol
Lots of missing keys from keyboards this week lol
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
I don't know, I'm still worried about the S restricting the design space since you have to take into account that it needs to run on that.
Time will tell.
Time will tell.
cryogenic7
Member
Of course they'll say this, developers won't do it though, they will develop for the least common denominator first and then upscale what they can. It's easier to upscale than downscale.
Silent Viper
Banned
What?
Series S uses 10GB DDR6 with way higher bandwidth. Like how come people post such dumb stuff without thinking. If you just trolling then you bad troll. Lol
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
RAM in consoles is also VRAM and for less resolution you does need as much. So I hope they did the math.
Silent Viper
Banned
Post proves that 90% of people will post without watching the video lol
ExpandKong
Banned
I just want someone to bottom line it for my stupid ass: what are the compromises I'm likely to see playing on a series S versus a series X if I'm only playing on a 1080p TV anyway?
I guess it's gonna come down to a game-by-game comparison, huh.
The price point is attractive but I'd rather save longer and buy the X than double dipping.
I guess it's gonna come down to a game-by-game comparison, huh.
The price point is attractive but I'd rather save longer and buy the X than double dipping.
danielJackson
Banned
I wanna see what happens when some madman devs make 1080p game for xsex @ 30hz with super ultra detailed graphics and then try to make it run on xsex.
Ps. Funny, by his Voice I thought it is some 15 years old pizza face speaking, but it were older bald dude with huge beard
Ps. Funny, by his Voice I thought it is some 15 years old pizza face speaking, but it were older bald dude with huge beard
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Moses85
Member
Keep on dreamingThe fastest, cheapest and best ports ever.
When DF's analysis of games start to drop and some on the Series S show better perfomance than the PS5...
Oh boy, it's coming.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
[citation needed]
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
This is just completely false from everything I've ever heard from devs. Assets especially are almost always created in super high quality and then downscaled because it's easier to do so.
Agnostic2020
Member
Bandwidth is identical to PS4 pro
220 gb/s for both pro and XSS
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Yeah. As I said in another thread, all it takes to downscale assets is an algorithm. To upscale typically requires artificial intelligence.
FranXico
Member
The only major drawback I can think of is that you'd need to buy a storage expansion sooner. Otherwise, not much.
INC
Member
The fastest, cheapest and best ports ever.
When DF's analysis of games start to drop and some on the Series S show better perfomance than the PS5...
Oh boy, it's coming.
Oooft, mods gonna be busy if true, its heating up. I'm genuinely interested to see how this performs, a budget 1440p console is a big deal, if i didn't have a pc, id consider it for game pass
Grinchy
Banned
Jason Ronald - Director of Program Management for Xbox:
"Developers will typically optimize their games first for 4K on Series X and then scale down the rendering resolution to 1440p for Xbox Series S, while still supporting the other great next-gen features."
We've already seen Microsoft make claims of scalability in the past that turned out to be as fake as everyone with a brain assumed it would be. But, let's just blindly believe this newest claim from a promotional video with vague statements like "this is what might typically happen!"
"Developers will typically optimize their games first for 4K on Series X and then scale down the rendering resolution to 1440p for Xbox Series S, while still supporting the other great next-gen features."
We've already seen Microsoft make claims of scalability in the past that turned out to be as fake as everyone with a brain assumed it would be. But, let's just blindly believe this newest claim from a promotional video with vague statements like "this is what might typically happen!"
AlexxKidd
Member
The fastest, cheapest and best ports ever.
When DF's analysis of games start to drop and some on the Series S show better perfomance than the PS5...
Oh boy, it's coming.
Will Digital Foundry be analyzing the performance of Spider-Man Miles Morales and Demon's Souls on the PS5 against their performance on Xbox?
When the PS5 drops and fanboys realize people buy video game consoles for games...
Oh boy, it's coming.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
EDIT: Wrong thread
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Agnostic2020
Member
Exactly. Let’s listen to more PR after all the False things they said few months back about cross gen Not holding back
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Silent Viper
Banned
Sony PS4 Pro: Price, specs and everything you need to know
www.google.com
Memory ram and entire system architecture is next gen way faster than Pro and One X. It will smoke both with ease
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Phrixotrichus
Banned
The voice in that video literally stated:
"Developers will typicall optimize for 4k on the series x first and then scale down the rendering resolution to 1440p"
yeah, no shit...that case was never an issue and nobody doubted that. But native 4k with RT and all other effects active is a pipe dream, bei it on 12 or 10 TF.
As we´ve seen on PC already even 1440p will need quite some optimization to work with all the bells and whistles....
So what does that make the XSS.....or does MS intend to force developers to stick to native 4k on the XSX "infinitely".....
"Developers will typicall optimize for 4k on the series x first and then scale down the rendering resolution to 1440p"
yeah, no shit...that case was never an issue and nobody doubted that. But native 4k with RT and all other effects active is a pipe dream, bei it on 12 or 10 TF.
As we´ve seen on PC already even 1440p will need quite some optimization to work with all the bells and whistles....
So what does that make the XSS.....or does MS intend to force developers to stick to native 4k on the XSX "infinitely".....
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Agnostic2020
Member
Yes but bandwidth size is exactly the same for both 220 GB/s and pro was a last gen machine at 1440p not next genPro uses DDR5Sony PS4 Pro: Price, specs and everything you need to know
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jimbojim
Banned
Halo Infinite says hi. So much about cross-gen scalability on same platform.
ExpandKong
Banned
To be fair, let's not write off the possibility that Halo Infinite just looks terrible because 343i is incompetent.
jimbojim
Banned
Ask them why they said Halo Infinite is build with XSX in mind and SlipSpace is next-gen ready.
Tarin02543
Member
S at 1080p needs to be as fast and pretty as X at 1080p
Silent Viper
Banned
And? Series S is GDDR6.
Jon Neu
Banned
An Xbox One game is your argument.
Inside the Xbox Series S Video
Walkthrough by Jason Ronald. Confirms that the CPU is the same as in XSX. Also confirms 10 GB RAM running at 224 GB/sec.
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