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Cyberpunk 2077 and Phantom Liberty earned CDPR 826M PLN (207M USD) in revenue in 2023 | Cumulative revenue sits at 3B PLN (750M USD)
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Cyberpunkd
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This game still has legs, just look at the graph. 5 hour demo is coming soon to PS5 and Xbox. This will drive additional revenue.
Look BioWare fucks - this is why you salvage your game. No go and get shot by EA.
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Neither Cyberpunk 2077 nor Phantom Liberty has hit any of the big subscription services yet, so there's lots of revenue avenues they can and will explore in the next couple of years. I'm sure they bank on the game having legs for days now that it has been fixed and the expansion has received great critic and user reception.
As an aside, their profit margin for FY2023 sits at 39%.
As an aside, their profit margin for FY2023 sits at 39%.
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Dazraell
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I believe the budget you mentioned wasn't in USD, but in PLN. If I remember correctly, it was closer to $85M
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
No, this was definitely in USD lol. $315M USD. $85M is impossible for a game like that.
Dazraell
Member
It is, cause you referred to a budget of a Patch 2.0 and Phantom Liberty
Btw. You also should read that chart on the first post carefully as that 207M revenue was related to 2023 alone
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
The game and the expansion cost $400M+, not just Phantom Liberty or the work post patch.
The base game cost $314M. Phantom Liberty cost $85M. That's already $399M. With all the fixing they've done after the release, we're looking at $400M+ USD.
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Dazraell
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My point still stands as you were saying $207M revenue is low considering the game's budget, but that $207M was from 2023 alone. Cyberpunk was released in 2020. This means they already recouped the costs of the development of Phantom Liberty
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
No, I was saying $750M is low, which is the revenue figure since launch. I'm saying that for a game that cost $400M+ to produce (with the DLC and post-release support), $750M in revenues doesn't sound very much, and that's the total.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
They won't add more DLCs.
The Stig
Member
thats a shame. thanks for letting me know
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Damn, Cyberpunk has to come to other platforms ASAP!!!
DaGwaphics
Member
Amazing. At least it shows that traditional single player games can still bring in the $. A 100% RoI doesn't seem bad to me, and that will only improve now as they have basically finished work on it at this point and this game is an evergreen seller on Steam and the consoles.
WitchHunter
Banned
They have 300 million EUR reserves. 100 million profit last year. 1200 employees
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
They would have reached a billion easily if they had released a polished game out of the gate and Phantom Liberty 2 years later rather than 3.
nemiroff
Gold Member
I have no idea what is high or low. So what pool of data are you using as a reference for this notion?
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Oh, I have no idea either. I just said that it doesn't sound much. Halo 4 for instance generated $300M in its first week so I find Cyberpunk generating $750M in around 40 months not particularly impressive. GTA V made $800M in a day and $1B in 3.
The game sold over 25M copies so $750M would be an average of $30 a copy which doesn't sound like a lot.
kittoo
Cretinously credulous
But this is revenue to CDPR. Halo's was total revenue. I am assuming CDPR doesnt get full revenue of a copy sold. Lets say they get ~60%, that means the total revenue from CP2077 is 750/.6=1250m or 1.25B.
Better, but not the highest ever.
Mahavastu
Member
Have you checked how much Cyberpunk did in the first week? I think it was like 13mio copies sold on launch... Before the refunds of course...
If that game would be on launch day as it is with version 2.x, it would be insanely successful.
balls of snow
Member
Its gonna be a long 2 years before any game reveal from cdpr. Lucky I still got one more cyberpunk and witcher playthrough in me.
ByWatterson
Member
Then they made $350M in profit in three years.
Like in what universe is that not much for an independent developer?
swing_harder
Neo Member
Man…I’ve never played either of these games. Which one would you recommend playing first? I only have a PS5 so keep that in mind.
Its gonna be a long 2 years before any game reveal from cdpr. Lucky I still got one more cyberpunk and witcher playthrough in me.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
What setting do you prefer? Sci-fi or high fantasy?
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Neither.
Play them on PC. Maybe Witcher 3 , but the “juice” from these titles is PC versions on max settings on top end machines.
I personally think Witcher 3 isn’t holding up over the test of time , but it’ll be the better title to play on a PS5.
swing_harder
Neo Member
I’m actually a big fan of both. I recently finished all of the Resident Evil remakes and the Dead Space remake. I loved all of those games but kind of burnt out on survival horror at the moment. Just looking for something different to play. I’m thinking I may give Cyberpunk a go because I have a tendency of getting sidetracked in large open world games and not finishing them. I heard Witcher 3 is a whopper of a game.
balls of snow
Member
WItcher 3 if you love fantasy. Also the longest game of the two.
So many of you are reacting wrongly to this. Do you know how the value chain of this business looks like?
Let me repeat after one user that actually understands. These are revenues of CDPR only... So saying things like "another game made 184 billion in two minutes" is meaningless here. The scale is different.
39.1% of net profitability margin says it all, really. They are doing well and plan to give 100mn PLN in dividends to prove it.
Let me repeat after one user that actually understands. These are revenues of CDPR only... So saying things like "another game made 184 billion in two minutes" is meaningless here. The scale is different.
39.1% of net profitability margin says it all, really. They are doing well and plan to give 100mn PLN in dividends to prove it.
vaibhavpisal
Member
Not sure if game is a resounding success, but good thing is CDPR now has a team that can make games like these.
I expect Witcher 4 to be properly system driven. No more over reliance on story, music, graphics. I mean, there is a limit to how long I can play a game just for these qualities alone.
I expect Witcher 4 to be properly system driven. No more over reliance on story, music, graphics. I mean, there is a limit to how long I can play a game just for these qualities alone.
They get 100% from GOG as they own it, 70% from Steam for the first $10M of sales, after that it rises to 75%. On Xbox and Playstation it's also 70% IIRC.
Over half of their sales are from PC, consoles share the rest 50/50 more or less. In 2021 it was 58% for PC, 20% for PS and 22% for Xbox.
Boss Mog
Member
Go with whichever setting you find more interesting.
Personally I prefer futuristic over fantasy and even though I tried to get into The Witcher 3, I felt the combat was atrocious and so I couldn't really keep playing it.
Cyberpunk has amazing combat and the story was very good. Phantom Liberty is also a must play. For me who waited for the PS5 version to come out before playing it, I feel it's by far the best game I've played this gen. Can't recommend it enough. If you do decide to play it make sure to watch the 8 episode anime series on Netflix beforehand as it's excellent and gives you a good sense of Night City.
Thaedolus
Gold Member
Hah this kinda follows my exact trajectory…built not solely in anticipation of Starfield, but it was a big factor…then I was very meh on Starfield, and then Cyberpunk 2.0 was right around the corner so I jumped into that and man what a difference.
I keep thinking I might go back to Starfield at some point but damn man, it feels so dated in all the wrong ways and so “modern” in all the wrong ways. Then I play BG3 and there’s some foul mouthed dwarf calling me a cunt and I’m like…no time for Starfield
Denton
Member
CDP has 327 million USD in a bank and no debt. So they could fund another Cyberpunk just from reserve even if they sold nothing going forward.
But, I expect their future games will not have such an insane budget, and their games will continue selling for years (decades). They sure built a good, sound business.
But, I expect their future games will not have such an insane budget, and their games will continue selling for years (decades). They sure built a good, sound business.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Best game of the generation so far IMO. I played it 3 times. Once at launch, once after the 1.5 update, once after Phantom Liberty. I had a blast all 3 times.
RAIDEN1
Member
If Adam Jensen ever does come back he could be a cross over character to the next part of Cyberpunk, (seeing as the world of Deus EX is all but dead)
The Stig
Member
oh man dont tease me!
RAIDEN1
Member
Well that's the only way they could somewhat resurrect his story, after the news of the franchise itself not coming back anytime soon, even though that one which was in development didn't even have Adam in it in the first place..
nkarafo
Member
They can hardly keep up with one big IP as they shown with Cyberpunk. Let alone in parallel with the Witcher IP.
And now they want to juggle a third one?
Why is it that so many studios want to expand until they burst?
What ea did with mass effect Andromeda was a disaster not fixing it or expansion