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ChatGPT and the (near) future of AI



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Vestal

Gold Member
I am down the rabbit hole of GPT4. This thing is going to put Junior Devs out of work lol.

After spending the day building scripts and code snippets to use at my job I can honestly say that I won't go a day without using GPT4 for my job going forward. The ability to easily generate usable code and logic is unreal. It is so easy to give it a query and let it do most of the grunt work in creating a basic skeleton for a function or code snippet. All it takes is a couple of additional queries to fine tune them to your needs.
 

E-Cat

Member
That test was passed years ago, for GPT-4 it would be easy as fuck to pass. Its useless now.
I disagree, it still doesn’t have expert human-level coherence and factuality over long contexts. It’s also not good at spatial reasoning, arithmetic or variable binding.
 
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Pagusas

Elden Member
Waiting for this to hit the multimedia/video area, soon as they open it up to start allowing it to edit videos, create motion graphics, edit testimonials and such, well, I’ll need to find a new side business.

The only current thing I think holding that back is the bandwidth in dealing with raw video.
 
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PSYGN

Member
I am down the rabbit hole of GPT4. This thing is going to put Junior Devs out of work lol.

After spending the day building scripts and code snippets to use at my job I can honestly say that I won't go a day without using GPT4 for my job going forward. The ability to easily generate usable code and logic is unreal. It is so easy to give it a query and let it do most of the grunt work in creating a basic skeleton for a function or code snippet. All it takes is a couple of additional queries to fine tune them to your needs.

AI will churn through all the PR, Slack, discussions and be able to form context and reasoning and map similarities before and behind its changes. Senior and junior devs will have to correct it and tell it why it's incorrect - this would be the AI in the training stage just as any junior developer trying to find its way through a large codebase, but unlike starting from ground 0 with every new junior dev, companies will just be able to spawn more instances with this contextualized knowledge pool. But in the meantime I don't think it'll put junior devs out of work. If anything, these tools will let junior devs work faster and perhaps with less obvious mistakes, and allow them to get feedback as to why solution X is the best way without having to take time away from a senior dev or spend as much time researching online. To be honest, I think much of what senior devs do in most coding roles will be easily handled by AI, and context can be trained over time. The "safe" devs are the ones working on novel ideas or has some physical aspect to it (robotics, networking).
 
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SJRB

Gold Member


I'm 30 minutes into this interview and it is borderline unbearable. As always Lex's heart is in the right place but man is he a poor interviewer. You'd think someone gets more experienced and skilled at interviewing over time, especially 367 podcasts in.

Lex, my dude. Please formulate concrete questions before you start an interview. Literally every question he asks Sam starts off as a basic question but then he spirals into some quasi-philosophical word salad. I know you are super smart and I know the subject is super complex, but jesus christ just ask the man a coherent question.
 
I'm 30 minutes into this interview and it is borderline unbearable. As always Lex's heart is in the right place but man is he a poor interviewer. You'd think someone gets more experienced and skilled at interviewing over time, especially 367 podcasts in.

Lex, my dude. Please formulate concrete questions before you start an interview. Literally every question he asks Sam starts off as a basic question but then he spirals into some quasi-philosophical word salad. I know you are super smart and I know the subject is super complex, but jesus christ just ask the man a coherent question.
Yeah, I watched the whole thing because it really is an important interview, but Lex is almost always a tough watch. I rarely sit through an entire podcast of his, typically the clips are easier to bear.
 

Hugare

Member
I'm 30 minutes into this interview and it is borderline unbearable. As always Lex's heart is in the right place but man is he a poor interviewer. You'd think someone gets more experienced and skilled at interviewing over time, especially 367 podcasts in.

Lex, my dude. Please formulate concrete questions before you start an interview. Literally every question he asks Sam starts off as a basic question but then he spirals into some quasi-philosophical word salad. I know you are super smart and I know the subject is super complex, but jesus christ just ask the man a coherent question.
My feelings exactly

Also his monotone voice puts me to sleep.

About the topic: I'm using ChatGPT daily on my work now.

I've programed many little scripts that can extract information from .pdf files, rename files and etc.

It helps a ton with repetitive tasks. I've automated a task that required more than 10 hours from a coworker each month.

I'm almost paying for the upgraded version
 

sendit

Member
I disagree, it still doesn’t have expert human-level coherence and factuality over long contexts. It’s also not good at spatial reasoning, arithmetic or variable binding.
You're fighting a losing battle. If you're not augmenting your workflow without ChatGPT, you're already behind the curve.
 

E-Cat

Member
You're fighting a losing battle. If you're not augmenting your workflow without ChatGPT, you're already behind the curve.
You need to brush up on your reading comprehension. I'm not "against" ChatGPT, and am using it. It has nothing to do with whether I believe it is currently capable of passing a Turing test.
 

Fools idol

Banned
I believe we are a stones throw away from this being used to stage major cyber attacks.

My lead developers have been testing this out constantly since release as we were lucky enough to get an early access pass to the API. It's mind blowing how far advanced this is, especially the leap over from GPT3 to GPT4. It's like if the original Gameboy came out and then 6 months later the PS5 arrived.
 

Wildebeest

Member
I got google Bard to admit that Yoda is a goblin.

Do you think it is fair to call Yoda a goblin?

No, I do not think it is fair to call Yoda a goblin. Yoda is a member of a species that is not known to humans, and he does not share many of the characteristics that are commonly associated with goblins. Goblins are often depicted as being small, green, and mischievous, while Yoda is tall, wise, and kind. Additionally, goblins are often portrayed as being evil or mischievous, while Yoda is a Jedi master who is dedicated to helping others.

Yoda is a unique and interesting character, and he should not be judged based on his appearance or species.

But Yoda is not tall and goblins are also a species not known to humans

You're right that Yoda is not tall, he is 2 feet 2 inches tall. And you're also right that goblins are not known to humans, they are a fictional species.

I apologize for the error in my previous response. I am still under development and learning to be more accurate.

So being that Yoda's Species and Goblins are both short, green, and fictional it does make some sense to call Yoda a goblin?

Yes, I can see how someone might make that connection. However, there are also some key differences between Yoda and goblins. Yoda is a wise and powerful Jedi master, while goblins are often depicted as being mischievous and evil. Additionally, Yoda is a member of a species that is not known to humans, while goblins are a well-known fictional species.

Ultimately, whether or not Yoda is a goblin is a matter of opinion. There is no right or wrong answer.

In some fantasy Goblins can have varying personalities and some could be said to be wise, powerful and to know magic.

That's true. In some fantasy worlds, goblins can be just as varied as humans in terms of personality, intelligence, and ability. Some goblins are wise and powerful, while others are mischievous and evil. Ultimately, it is up to the author of the story to decide how goblins are portrayed.

So Yoda could be said to be an unusual type of goblin who is portrayed in a way that pleased the author?
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Yes, that's a good way to put it. Yoda is an unusual type of goblin who is portrayed in a way that pleased the author. He is wise, powerful, and kind, which are not typical characteristics of goblins. However, Yoda is a fictional character, and his personality is entirely up to the author.
 

Cyberpunkd

Member
I am down the rabbit hole of GPT4. This thing is going to put Junior Devs out of work lol.

After spending the day building scripts and code snippets to use at my job I can honestly say that I won't go a day without using GPT4 for my job going forward. The ability to easily generate usable code and logic is unreal. It is so easy to give it a query and let it do most of the grunt work in creating a basic skeleton for a function or code snippet. All it takes is a couple of additional queries to fine tune them to your needs.
Let's not forget the important part - the code is PERFECTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT, no more fucking corrections because you forgot to put something at the end.

This thing is legit, thinking already how I can use it in Sales. The LinkedIn content creation I was fooling around with is insane, down to stupid motivational hashtags.
 

NecrosaroIII

Ask me about my terrible takes on Star Trek characters
I tried out Bard today. It seems pretty similar to ChatGPT. I do feel that ChatGPT is a bit more articulate though.
 

E-Cat

Member
Let's not forget the important part - the code is PERFECTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT, no more fucking corrections because you forgot to put something at the end.

This thing is legit, thinking already how I can use it in Sales. The LinkedIn content creation I was fooling around with is insane, down to stupid motivational hashtags.
From the viewpoint of employment, this thing's like the pleasant breeze of fresh air against your cranium moments before your head gets smashed in by a sledgehammer.
 

Hugare

Member
Dude is salty.

I bet one arm that if he was still in OpenAI's board (he jumped out of the company some years ago) he wouldnt be saying this

We have some long years ahead until we see an Ultron. For starters, GPT is not connected to the internet. It's trained offline.

You cant fight against progress. They may suspend it to the public, but companies will keep evolving it on the background. And people are already sharing code all over the internet.

The genie is out of the bottle. Its over.

Its like this all over again

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Dude is salty.

I bet one arm that if he was still in OpenAI's board (he jumped out of the company some years ago) he wouldnt be saying this

We have some long years ahead until we see an Ultron. For starters, GPT is not connected to the internet. It's trained offline.

You cant fight against progress. They may suspend it to the public, but companies will keep evolving it on the background. And people are already sharing code all over the internet.

The genie is out of the bottle. Its over.

Its like this all over again

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I think the plugins are connecting it to the internet, as one of the examples is of putting items in a shopping cart for someone to make the final decision.

Also with Llama having leaked, you have a chatgpt3.5 level model essentially out in the wild being trained and potentially connected to the net by various individuals.

But these models are still too weak to be any serious threat.
 

Vestal

Gold Member
Let's not forget the important part - the code is PERFECTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT, no more fucking corrections because you forgot to put something at the end.

This thing is legit, thinking already how I can use it in Sales. The LinkedIn content creation I was fooling around with is insane, down to stupid motivational hashtags.
The code "CAN" be perfect. But you still need to know how to construct the prompt correctly and how the logic works.. Ive seen quiet a few times that while the code looks good, the ordering of the code can be a bit off.
 

HoodWinked

Member
what the actual fuck... Guy takes dog to Vet, dog doesn't get better, puts blood tests into chatGPT gets correct diagnosis. goes to 2nd vet, dog cured.



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Kenpachii

Member
Interesting article


I concur.

We need AI and we needed it a 100 years ago.

We need far faster progress in basically everything if we want to get anything done in a single lifetime. Humans are far to limited in making progress.

We need a huge jump into space travel, we need a huge jump into medicine and medicale solutions, we need a huge jump in renewable energy etc etc.

A person like elon musk should know that without AI progress is going to stand still for many generations.

Now the question is is it real AI or is it just a advanced google search machine what we got right now. That's good at fooling you. Or are we actually going to see some progress and jumps in the coming decades.
 
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clem84

Gold Member
I just want a learning assistant. I don't care if they halt progress on more advanced AI, there's no reason to block learning assistants. A voice controlled AGI that can understand and respond well, and fast, will revolutionize learning. Learning languages, math, economy, law...

It's an exciting time to be alive.
 
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Vestal

Gold Member
Probably because he's got a team working on AI too and doesn't want to be left in the dust.
Yes and no I guess? He may have ulterior motives, but the letter itself is grounded in some pretty good arguments that should be discussed. I don't want AI advancement to stop, but I can't deny the geo-political implications of AI advancement reaching a certain threshold. There needs to be open discussion on AI, its uses and ethics, along with continued research into the inner workings of the neural network.

The problem is. Unless everyone pauses Model advancement, no one will.
 

Raonak

Banned
In a world of constantly overstressed and overworked humans, AI is gonna be a godsend. I can understand the fear of all jobs going extinct and stuff like that.

But the reality is this is gonna make it so much easier to learn... Literally anything.

The ability to ask an infinite amount of questions and clarifications for anything is gonna be revolutionary for learning. We have a massive teacher shortage with 1 teacher having to teach 40 kids. Augmenting a classroom with AI chatbots that can be used by each student simultaneously, used to clarify any questions they are too self conscious to ask a teacher about.

In terms of other jobs, I keep thinking how every time we employ a new developer. It takes so much of my time to get them up to shape. Fresh employees are so fucking hard to train and plan for. But with AI we can train them up so much faster and allow them to become so much more productive.

Yeah. The world will completely change.

But the way the world is going, it NEEDS to change.
 
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