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[Mibu no ookami]

Apple is easily the leading company to enter into the more traditional gaming market.

I think we all pretty much scoffed at the iPhone 15 Pro being a gaming console or even a gaming handheld, but I think it has considerably more potential than say the Playstation Portal. People already buy iPhones, so it's easy to try to convince them to play traditional games occasionally on their iPhones.

But that is NOT the sell

What has me convinced that Apple is a strong contender is what they've already advertised. Cross-buy across their devices. This is an extremely unique position that only Apple can do.

• iPhones
• iPads
• Macbooks
• iMacs/MacMinis/Mac Pros
• Apple Vision Pro (VR)
• Apple TV
• Apple Arcade

The ability to potentially buy games once and play it on any device that you own? All Apple was missing before was the support of developers/publishers and it seems that they are starting to get more of that. I think that publishers/developers are going to look to create as many competitive platforms as possible to keep royalties down. It makes a lot of sense to support Apple, especially given their user base size.

They could very easily release a gaming-oriented M Series chipset Apple TV that could compete directly with Sony and Microsoft and they could certainly subsidize it across gaming and Apple TV.

Obviously, they'll need more software, but I could easily see them buying any large studios or publishers. There is even some talk that they could buy Disney. They wouldn't have the regulatory hurdles that Microsoft is going through in order to buy a major publisher either.

When you combine Apple Arcade which can be bundled into Apple One. They could far more easily subsidize a subscription service and their games in a more similar way like Amazon does with Amazon Prime. I don't think an exclusively gaming subscription service can sustain itself at this point. Apple is already the biggest revenue maker in gaming.

Apple has the money, the engineers, the ecosystem, and the consumer base to be a legitimate entrant into the console gaming space. Unlike Sony and Microsoft, they can create their own chipsets, which would eventually allow them to undercut Sony and Microsoft on hardware prices.

 

[cash_longfellow]

You shut your mouth lol…

No but for real…I could see Apple charging $749.99 for an exclusive Apple AAA game and IPhone nuts would eat that shit up.

 

[MDSLKTR]

Got scared it was part of the email leaks

 

[Knightime_X]

Punt Apple right out of Chat.

 

[killatopak]

Apple has a history of overpricing. I don’t want their influence to reach here.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

No thanks.

 

[64bitmodels]

well the man did it

I was actually gonna write an apple thread myself but since you seemed so hyped on the opportunity i figured why not.

 

[JimboJones]

They don't know video game development, where is their team of studios to create games to actually create experiences to take advantage of their hardware?

 

[64bitmodels]

They don't know video game development, where is their team of studios to create games to actually create experiences to take advantage of their hardware?

they'll buy studios and make their own. They don't have a history of monopolization like MS does so they're surely to build and not buy. Ala Sony & Nintendo

 

[JimboJones]

they'll buy studios and make their own. They don't have a history of monopolization like MS does so they're surely to build and not buy. Ala Sony & Nintendo

They should be doing that now then. Instead they are showing off Resident Evil ports. I don't believe they have the chops, Google and Amazon are in the same boat, they just don't get it.

 

[Pelta88]

Apple is easily the leading company to enter into the more traditional gaming market.


The ability to potentially buy games once and play it on any device that you own?

So more gimped hardware designed to run on devices that hold this hobby of ours back?

 

[ZehDon]

Apple wants to take 30% of the video game industry's revenue and add it to their bottom line for as little work as humanly possible. Apple isn't interested in building a competing pillar to Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo, offering up new games or innovative features. All they want is to entice developers with the size of their install base and then literally do nothing while they collect their platform fees. I wouldn't want Apple, Google, or Amazon in the industry.

 

[Buggy Loop]

They don't know video game development, where is their team of studios to create games to actually create experiences to take advantage of their hardware?

They don't know TV/Movie productions, where is their team of studios to create TV/movie content to actually take advantage of their apple TV.

It's Apple

Whatever they tip their toe into in a given media, they'll already have a plan for it.

Underestimating them is not a smart move.

 

[RoboFu]

The funny thing is that Apple is in the running yes but its all organic really. They are not pushing gaming but rather giving it a place for it to grow with their tech growing.

Like apple didn't go out of their way to get capcom on iphone. Capcom wants to be on iphone. They want to tap that user base.

Where it gets interesting is when the future say A20 chips are ina $200 Apple TV. The thing no one understands about Apples Silicon is they are fast and they are cheap to produce. Right now I think the chips apple tvs have are the A15s and the new Iphone pro chip is athe A17.
It won’t be long.

 

[twilo99]

Apple has a history of overpricing. I don’t want their influence to reach here.

True, but their hardware is top notch, certainly a level above all current console makers.

 

[Dacvak]

It’s honestly such a shame that the mobile gaming market has such a borderline-irreparable reputation at this point, because new phone chips (especially Apple silicon) are just ridiculously powerful and efficient.

In some other universe, there’s a whole generation of people playing every AAA game on their Switch-style Androids and iPhones wherever they go. And while most people here might scoff at that thought, I really think it’s a hugely missed opportunity for us. I don’t give a shit how I play my games, as long as they’re great.

But instead, the mobile market has probably permanently ruined its reputation as a platform with MTX, shitty dopamine machine games, and pay2win. It’s such a bummer. I wish the Switch 2 was powered by the A17.

At least we seem to be moving in the right direction for the time being. Google Play Pass and Apple Arcade are both pretty decent (was playing a bunch of What The Golf today on my phone and having a blast), and the new AAA ports to iPhone are pretty nifty. Any new options for people to experience those games is a win in my book.

I just wish this all happened 10 years sooner.

 

[JimboJones]

They don't know TV/Movie productions, where is their team of studios to create TV/movie content to actually create content to take advantage of their apple TV.

It's Apple

Whatever they tip their toe into in a given media, they'll already have a plan for it.

Underestimating them is not a smart move.

They have had the biggest selling handheld gaming platform for years, and what have they done with it? Apple Arcade, essentially gamepass for mobile game apps, they want the games on their storefront. They aren't interested in making games or pushing it forward.

 

[Dacvak]

They don't know TV/Movie productions, where is their team of studios to create TV/movie content to actually take advantage of their apple TV.

It's Apple

Whatever they tip their toe into in a given media, they'll already have a plan for it.

Underestimating them is not a smart move.

The anti-Apple boner here is so huge I thought I was on reddit for a second

 

[Guerilla Munch]

The funny thing is that Apple is in the running yes but its all organic really. They are not pushing gaming but rather giving it a place for it to grow with their tech growing.

Like apple didn't go out of their way to get capcom on iphone. Capcom wants to be on iphone. They want to tap that user base.

Where it gets interesting is when the future say A20 chips are ina $200 Apple TV. The thing no one understands about Apples Silicon is they are fast and they are cheap to produce. Right now I think the apple tvs have are the A15s and the new Iphone pro chip is athe A17.
It wonmt be long.

yup, or they can release a beefy apple tv console for 4 or 500. play the newest games on your couch, then continue them on the go on your phone.

 

[THE DUCK]

Apple could release some amazing hardware, but games drive console sales, not the other way around. So until they get serious Boug that, it's not likely to happen, and if it does it might have a hard time selling unless one of the big three agree to make games.

If ms did decide to be software only, that's a door open to apple.

 

[supernova8]

Lol I guess we were due for another Mibu no ookami monologue

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

True, but their hardware is top notch, certainly a level above all current console makers.

Yeah but Apple aren't going to loss lead shit. Ever.

 

[ADiTAR]

It will be funny if at some point Apple suppressed Xbox, without actually having any game dev.

 

[LordOfChaos]

You know output to a screen it doesn't look bad, obviously way ahead of what the Switch can do, but below somewhat below the SS



I want them to make a full official Switch like kit for it, TV stand with built in fans for keeping throttling away and an adaptable controller that can either grip it or use standalone

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Lol I guess we were due for another Mibu no ookami monologue

 

[supernova8]

 

[Mibu no ookami]

I'm surprised that people think that Apple could stand up Apple TV and an entire tv/film production company, but that they're somehow boxed out of an industry they were way closer aligned to than TV/Movies.

 

[Del_X]

Pay 40% more for similar compute as whatever Sony has with one more gimmick.

I mean hell I might bookmark this and come back. It will still sell but yeah… Apple is not a value brand.

They do have console-level-or-better hardware but they sell Mac Minis with equivalent horsepower for $1000+

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Pay 40% more for similar compute as whatever Sony has with one more gimmick.

I mean hell I might bookmark this and come back. It will still sell but yeah… Apple is not a value brand.

They do have console-level-or-better hardware but they sell Mac Minis with equivalent horsepower for $1000+

Nowhere did I advocate for this. I just think it is a likely scenario and that it has merit.

 

[Badlucktroll]

If Apple buys a few strategic companies (valve, EA for the sports, ect) and makes mac a place to game and does a new affordable game console with icloud integration and powered by ios, they will probably rip everyone a new asshole

 

[SlimeGooGoo]

Without software they're going nowhere.

But with the current status of Microsoft and Sony, they could actually stand a chance.

No way they have a chance against Nintendo though.

 

[JimboJones]

If Apple buys a few strategic companies (valve, EA for the sports, ect) and makes mac a place to game and does a new affordable game console with icloud integration and powered by ios, they will probably rip everyone a new asshole

That's the thing though, they won't, they will release iPhone 23 in 5 years time with a port of a 2 year old game with Duelsense6 support and say we take games seriously.

 

[Little Chicken]

They've tried twice and both were failures.

Nobody is buying a $1000 phone to play downgraded 30fps ports.

 

[nikos]

iPhone + Backbone One actually makes for some nice handheld gaming. There are some really good mobile games out there. Apple Arcade games are free of all the mobile microtransaction bullshit and most support a controller. There are plenty of full console games on mobile as well. There have been instances where I played a game on iPhone instead of Switch because performance was better.

15 Pro's GPU is supposed to be way more capable of ray tracing. I'm looking forward to giving it a try this weekend. Shame I'm going to have to buy another Backbone One because of USB-C.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

That's the thing though, they won't, they will release iPhone 23 in 5 years time with a port of a 2 year old game with Duelsense6 support and say we take games seriously.

How/why did they get into tv and film?

They've tried twice and both were failures.

Nobody is buying a $1000 phone to play downgraded 30fps ports.

They're buying the phone already and they already have a macbook and maybe an ipad...

 

[El Muerto]

They did and they failed.

 

[diffusionx]

Apple Arcade is bundled into Apple One, OP.

Until proven otherwise, nobody is going to pay full price for games on any Apple device. It's like what everyone talks about could happen with Game Pass, but it is the iOS reality. So there's no way any dev is porting their game to the platform without major, major support. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple did the RE8 port themselves, and is paying for all of it. Until they can get their users to pay for full priced games, it's a gimmick.

 

[Jibran#one]

They've tried twice and both were failures.

Nobody is buying a $1000 phone to play downgraded 30fps ports.

It's 30 FPS on this year's phone but new phones comes every year whereas a console is what once in 5 years I bet u in 2 3 years phones will catch up to consoles

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Apple Arcade is bundled into Apple One, OP.

Until proven otherwise, nobody is going to pay full price for games on any Apple device. It's like what everyone talks about could happen with Game Pass, but it is the iOS reality. So there's no way any dev is porting their game to the platform without major, major support. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple did the RE8 port themselves, and is paying for all of it.

I literally said it can be. You can also buy it separately.

A lot of people have macbooks and no other gaming devices. You're telling me they won't buy a full price game to play on their laptop?


https://ew.com/gaming/whoopi-goldberg-diablo-4-video-game-blizzard-entertainment/

 

[JimboJones]

How/why did they get into tv and film?



They're buying the phone already and they already have a macbook and maybe an ipad...

Because they had the infrastructure after they shit on cd music publishers.

 

[64bitmodels]

Because they had the infrastructure after they shit on cd music publishers.

music has nothing to do with films.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Because they had the infrastructure after they shit on cd music publishers.

What infrastructure did they have that let them create tv and movies but prevents them from getting serious about gaming...

 

[Magic Carpet]

They've tried twice and both were failures.

Nobody is buying a $1000 phone to play downgraded 30fps ports.

Nobody is buying a 1000 JUST to play downgraded 30fps ports.
Fixed it for ya.
Everyone here has a phone right next to them or in their pocket or hell reading this forum with.

 

[64bitmodels]

do people honestly think there are people out there only buying Iphones for gaming?

No. They're buying it for all the other stuff a smartphone does, and ALSO gaming.

 

[Little Chicken]

It's 30 FPS on this year's phone but new phones comes every year whereas a console is what once in 5 years I bet u in 2 3 years phones will catch up to consoles

That is true but the phones come out with such frequency that I think there's too much pressure on the consumer to upgrade every year.

Apple would just need to do what they and Google and Amazon haven't done in the past and that's show commitment to their platform with a long-term roadmap, not just "if we don't make x amount of money by next year we pull the plug".

Nobody is investing in a new ecosystem because of two Indies and a promise by Jade Raymond.

 

[Little Chicken]

Nobody is buying a 1000 JUST to play downgraded 30fps ports.
Fixed it for ya.
Everyone here has a phone right next to them or in their pocket or hell reading this forum with.

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[Danjin44]

I dont know about anybody else but I dont see myself ever playing games on my phone.

 

[JimboJones]

What infrastructure did they have that let them create tv and movies but prevents them from getting serious about gaming...

Because they have done this song and dance with games before and nothing ever comes from it.

They created an apple tv with a Wii remote and people where saying it was going to be the next Wii.

If your happy with what apple currently offers with gaming then it's good news there gonna keep doing what they are doing but don't be expecting Apple first party TotK, Star Field or Spiderman 2 levels of production from them.

 

[nial]

Without software they're going nowhere.

But with the current status of Microsoft and Sony, they could actually stand a chance.

No way they have a chance against Nintendo though.

Come on goo, current status? Sony is doing the best this year even with just Spider-Man 2 as their tentpole release.

 

[Magic Carpet]

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Meaning your Anti Apple? Already the console war is starting.