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[Holammer]

Release the code already, I want to play TotK at 120... nay! 240fps!

 

[damidu]

fingers crossed its not half bad of an attempt

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Talk about the wrong games to show this off with.

 

[thatJohann]

Only on PC? No PS5?

 

[Kenpachii]

they probably choose those games because they give them the biggest gains

 

[twilo99]

Is this RDNA3 only?

 

[Buggy Loop]

Just some context on latency, for all the shit DLSS 3 got for latencies, AMD will be in a world of hurt if they don’t overhaul anti-lag

Radeon Anti-Lag vs. NVIDIA Reflex Competition - Latency comparison with clear winner | Page 13 | igor´sLAB

It’s that time again: Latency Time for eSports enthusiasts and of course those who want to become one. Besides high FPS and low – constant – frame times, latency can make the difference between…

www.igorslab.de

Raw reflex vs anti-lag, the 3070Ti 4K at 109 fps beats the 6700XT 1080p 211 fps in latency

Those insufferable ~12ms latency from enabling DLSS 3 frame gen will look like witchcraft once peoples bench FSR3 Native AMD latency is inherently higher than Nvidia somehow, without reflex

 

[UltimaKilo]

Seems like they’re hiding it in two games nobody plays so they can claim they released it, while continuing to buy themselves more time. Shame.

 

[StereoVsn]

People can´t complain about a possible bad implementation if nobody plays the games. Masterminds.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Just some context on latency, for all the shit DLSS 3 got for latencies, AMD will be in a world of hurt if they don’t overhaul anti-lag

Radeon Anti-Lag vs. NVIDIA Reflex Competition - Latency comparison with clear winner | Page 13 | igor´sLAB

It’s that time again: Latency Time for eSports enthusiasts and of course those who want to become one. Besides high FPS and low – constant – frame times, latency can make the difference between…

www.igorslab.de

Raw reflex vs anti-lag, the 3070Ti 4K at 109 fps beats the 6700XT 1080p 211 fps in latency

Those insufferable ~12ms latency from enabling DLSS 3 frame gen will look like witchcraft once peoples bench FSR3 Native AMD latency is inherently higher than Nvidia somehow, without reflex

Yep, like 2 generations behind DLSS. Glad it's coming but shows how superior DLSS is in almost all aspects.

 

[StereoVsn]

I am genuinely puzzled by absence of Starfield here. They blocked DLSS but not using FSR 3 for essentially the flagship title on it?

Hmm...

 

[Fbh]

Can consoles use this?

God I hope not.
I'm starting to hate FSR on consoles.

At first it sounded great because I thought it would allow devs to focus on 60fps at 1080-1440p and then use FSR to boot image quality.
Instead more and more games are just going "fuck it, let's just render at 720p and use FSR".

I don't want to see what they'll start doing with frame generation ("fuck it let's just aim for 25fps at 720p and use FSR")

 

[intbal]

I'll be shocked if this doesn't get added to Redfall before the end of the year.

 

[rofif]

What can I say?
High production value, single player, new ip.
I am supporting this and I want to give it a chance. (Immortal aveum)

 

[twilo99]

This should run on AM5 APUs as well.. interesting

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Amusingly, it also works on old nVidia GPUs who lack the dedicated hardware for their newer graphics thingies.
The Switch can use FSR.

Is this true for FSR3? I don’t know if that has been confirmed anywhere yet. From the article:

AMD has not yet disclosed the complete details regarding FSR quality tiers and support for Radeon and other GPU models.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I'm glad I bought a George Foreman Barbecue grill.

 

[TonyK]

We need that type of technology in consoles, where I can't buy a 4090 to increase framerate.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Forspoken continues to set new industry standards

 

[hlm666]

I am buying immortals of Aveum too. Honestly looks like my next game to defend.

which one do you roleplay?

 

[winjer]

Confirmed to work on 7000, 6000 and older AMD GPUs. And also on consoles.

Also confirmed for 12 games.
And a plugin for Unreal Engine.

Fluid motion works into all DX11 and DX12 games, by enabling HyperR-X.

 

[DemonGamerTTT]

The problem with technology is that it only works on specific games.

 

[winjer]

 

[hlm666]

Well fluid motion shouldn't have any trouble being better than Frame Gen in aveum, it's completely fucked. Hmmm interesting turn of events that this game has the worst FG implentation to date, curious indeed.

 

[analog_future]

The problem with technology is that it only works on specific games.

AMD just announced at their conference that frame generation will be available at the driver level for all DX11 & DX12 games:

 

[TrebleShot]

So this is mostly good for the consoles I imagine a PS5 pro would implement it but come on give us FSR3 in other games PLEASE FFXVI, Quality modes become 60fps that would be incredible.

But as with 2.2 basically ONE game supports it which is FH5 so I have zero faith in it.

 

[MikeM]

What does that mean for those with rdna3 GPUs? Any usage of the AI cores?

 

[winjer]

 

[Interfectum]

"Incredible"

 

[Xcell Miguel]

AMD just announced at their conference that frame generation will be available at the driver level for all DX11 & DX12 games:

At driver level it won't get actual motion vectors from the engine nor always be able to separate the HUD from the 3D render (for in-game 3D HUD), maybe with some depth data like reShade and others can use, so I expect a graphical mess

 

[winjer]

So a bit of good news and bad news.
AMD has a new feature called Anti-lag+ to further reduce latency in games.
The bad news is that it's only for RDNA3 GPUs.

 

[adamsapple]

AMD just announced at their conference that frame generation will be available at the driver level for all DX11 & DX12 games:

Availability for *all* games is a huge thing. Let's see how it is in practice.

 

[DemonGamerTTT]

I don't really like those fake frame technologies as they introduce lag... But watching today's games on announcement I saw AMD claiming they can reduce your lag while generating fake frames...

I really really want to see this in action to check if that statement is true.

 

[winjer]

 

[mhirano]

Is this basically the same effect like motion interpolation on TVs (soap opera effect) but with specific frame knowledge about what is happening within the scene so less artifacts?
Does it improve controls responsivity as well?

I think it’s more like the frame interpolation from VR that is context sensitive and yes improve responsiveness

 

[twilo99]

Coming to some of the boxes apparently

AMD launching FSR 3 in September, to work with Xbox as well but no mention of Sony's PS5

Patches to enable AMD's FSR 3 support will be added to Forspoken and Immortals of Aveum sometime in early September. It will be added to every DirectX 11 and 12 game sometime in early 2024.

www.neowin.net

 

[RoadHazard]

This was way, WAY better than the actual game:

Holy shit that's a long video about a game I don't give a shit about.

Will watch later.

 

[Azurro]

Holy shit that's a long video about a game I don't give a shit about.

Will watch later.

Man, watch it, it's way better than the actual game, they play through the plot and roast it along the way. The main character is such a shitty self absorbed person.

 

[Fafalada]

Is this basically the same effect like motion interpolation on TVs (soap opera effect) but with specific frame knowledge about what is happening within the scene so less artifacts?

I mean it's deconstructive statement - but yes. Or you could also say the same as DLSS3.

Does it improve controls responsivity as well?

Not what was demoed so far, no.

Frame generation, especially if it doesnt have an AI component, is meant for upscaling 50+ fps to 100+.

Not at all - interpolation is meant for interpolating values between two fixed points - it's arbitrary how far apart those are.
The reason both NVidia and AMD focus on frame doubling is because these methods also make input latency worse - so you really don't want to market fractional framerate increases for it.

 

[Loxus]

Coming to some of the boxes apparently

AMD launching FSR 3 in September, to work with Xbox as well but no mention of Sony's PS5

Patches to enable AMD's FSR 3 support will be added to Forspoken and Immortals of Aveum sometime in early September. It will be added to every DirectX 11 and 12 game sometime in early 2024.

www.neowin.net

Just getting this out there, this should work on PS5 as well.

AMD reveals long-awaited FSR 3 tech and frame gen for every DX11/DX12 game
So, how does FSR 3 actually work? The principles are similar to DLSS 3, but the execution is obviously different as unlike the Nvidia solution, there are no AI or bespoke hardware components in the mix. A combination of motion vector input from FSR 2 and optical flow analysis is used. DLSS 3 uses a hardware block to achieve the latter, of course, while FSR 3 uses software instead, running using asynchronous compute.

 

[Sleepwalker]

So a bit of good news and bad news.
AMD has a new feature called Anti-lag+ to further reduce latency in games.
The bad news is that it's only for RDNA3 GPUs.

Goddamit jacket ma...wait a minute