The way I've read it, they filmed the scene with only JDM on set after everyone else was done for the night and that he was beating a prop. I assume they are going to replace the prop with a human form for the actual reveal and JDM figured when the final scene was shown on TV that would have been done.
Carol wasn't pleading for her life from the Savior. She was demanding him kill her and told him point blank, if you don't kill me now, I'm not going to die. Basically either kill me outright or leave me the fuck alone. I think the change is sort of out of left field but I don't see at all how it's a sexist portrayal. She certainly wouldn't be the first character in this universe to accept death or even yearn for it.
I see it more like a bit of character assassination, similar to what they did to Tyrese and to a lesser degree, Morgan. I'm not a fan of it but they have done it to men as well. Tyrese got taken out by a kid walker that he knew was close and Morgan's #allLives mantra has been tedious. I will admit that I think it takes more strength to kill only when necessary but I'm not sure that's where they're going with Carol. I've come around to Morgan more in the last couple of episodes, especially when compared to Rick. I'd actually be happy with Carol and Morgan meeting in the middle and retaining their badass ways but not killing everything that moves.
He talked about having children. That is kind of a death sentence.
That's fair. Honestly I got pretty tired of him calling her "bitch" during the scene.
Good point. That's the other part if it that didn't sit well with me. Plus the dude did a God awful job in that role (probably was the content he had to work with). All around just an abysmal addition to an otherwise very good episode.
When Rick tells Maggie something like "we all made it, we always made it" I was just thinking: well, except for her dad and sister you know. All her family got killed. But sure, it always worked out, Rick.
Where's the clip?
He was doing another show at the time when he had to fly out and film this scene. He will probably adjust now that this is his main gig.
They won't kill Rick. He needs to see how bad he fucked up.
Makes sense. I'd probably lose interest in this show if it wasn't for him anymore.
Same. Andy Lincoln carries the whole show for me. He has for a while now.
I don't think he told. He just got caught. An empty RV was enough info for them already.
what do you mean it makes sense? dragging it out just to milk it for longer isn't cool imo.
wait, you know that for sure?This guy is dead:
filler by necessity because of a shortened budget? damn. there are a few people who say they like season 2, some people in this thread say so, but this is one of those case how it can sorta be proven, objectively to suck because of what happened behind the curtains.
I see. Well, that much doesn't really concern me as a fan coz I didn't start watching till season 4. So it is what it is. I mean, who knows. If they kept Sophia's character alive, many things could've been different. Carol may've been killed already, there may not have been an Enid, etc.
Just cannot stand the way he talks and acts, it's silly and shallow but the character does literally nothing for me.
so you just don't like the character. i guess that's fair.
that's not true. even if it wasn't a "main" character that got Lucille'd the shock value and impact would have still hit me. Any one of our Alexandrians. Just the simple fact that it wasn't shown at all, fucked everything up. It was a testament to how fucked up season 6 was, in my opinion.
Yeah pretty much, it's on me I guess. I won't knock others if they like him
