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Doctor Who: Time Of The Doctor |OT| 11's hour is over now... The clock is striking 12
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It seemed like a really big waste of a genuinely decent story arc. How does a Timelord approach life when he's used up all of his regenerations? We saw how the Master dealt with it in the 80s, but how does a good man like the Doctor deal with it? How does his thirst for adventure and excitement, his putting his ass on the line every time the universe is in danger change when he knows he's just one mis-step from the end of the road?
But no, let's just casually mention the regeneration limit for the first time since Who came back, retroactively make the Eleventh Doctor the Thirteenth and throw a deus ex machina at it to make it go away in about ten minutes.
Those lyrics always made more sense for the Doctor regenerating than Akhaten waking up
HassanJamal
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Oh man, Im gonna miss Matt Smith's Doctor, my favorite Doctor :'C Twas a good send off and its pretty great this ep wrapped up all the things that were left unsolved EXCEPT for who gave Clara that number to call the Doctor. Guess material for S8 then. Gluck to Capaldi and his new future as the Doctor.
If Moffat has any sense in him, he will use this opportunity to keep Doctor and Clara in the TARDIS in s8e1. Perfect timing to show us for the first time directly how the TARDIS changes from one Doctor to another.
You mean the set/TARDIS desktop? I don't believe they're changing it.
If Moffat has any sense in him, he will use this opportunity to keep Doctor and Clara in the TARDIS in s8e1. Perfect timing to show us for the first time directly how the TARDIS changes from one Doctor to another.
Can the doctor be in the tardis while it regrows?
We've already seen how The Doctor handles himself during his last regeneration. Even though we just found out that he's 12th Doctor, he himself knew this whole time. He didn't just forget about The War Doctor.
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Rewatched Time of the Doctor again as it actually airs here, I like it more than the first time over.
Still don't like that it just kinda glosses over the actiony bits but other than that my only real problem with the episode is the awkward few minutes with Clara's... aunty? Stepmum? whatever... after she gets sent home the second time. That, and it's kinda silly that Moff rushed to be the one to do the regeneration limit story only to have the resolution be "Clara pleads with a crack in the wall and Time Lords just kinda pop some energy out through the hole." The Time Lords giving him more was pretty much always going to be the resolution, it was just kinda doofy how it was done.
Not super great, but decent enough.
aaaand "Raggedy Man, goodnight" got me again
Still don't like that it just kinda glosses over the actiony bits but other than that my only real problem with the episode is the awkward few minutes with Clara's... aunty? Stepmum? whatever... after she gets sent home the second time. That, and it's kinda silly that Moff rushed to be the one to do the regeneration limit story only to have the resolution be "Clara pleads with a crack in the wall and Time Lords just kinda pop some energy out through the hole." The Time Lords giving him more was pretty much always going to be the resolution, it was just kinda doofy how it was done.
Not super great, but decent enough.
aaaand "Raggedy Man, goodnight" got me again
I really don't understand the hate for Tennant's exit. Anyway, "I don't want to go" had a larger impact on me because I didn't want to see Tennant leave. Smith's final line initially didn't do much for me, but after watching it over and over, I do get pretty sad.
UnblessedSoul
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I liked the regen episode, his line was better then I dont want to go lol, I just wonder if Capaldi will be good enough, it took a while for Matt Smith to find his groove so who knows.
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At least you can talk. Who are you?
I wonder if because he now has a new set of regenerations, he might have to relearn a few things, like flying the TARDIS, coming from his "Do you know how to fly this thing?" remark. Or maybe I'm just looking into it too much and he's having a memory blank because he just regenerated.
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Makes me think the part was originally written to be River Song but Alex Kingston couldn't make it or something.
SpectreFire
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I wonder if because he now has a new set of regenerations, he might have to relearn a few things, like flying the TARDIS, coming from his "Do you know how to fly this thing?" remark. Or maybe I'm just looking into it too much and he's having a memory blank because he just regenerated.
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New thread should be:
Doctor Who Series 8 |OT| Fuckin' Time Travel
Well, it almost happened in Matt's first episode. Pool in the library and all of that...
I wonder if because he now has a new set of regenerations, he might have to relearn a few things, like flying the TARDIS, coming from his "Do you know how to fly this thing?" remark. Or maybe I'm just looking into it too much and he's having a memory blank because he just regenerated.
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When the regeneration is taxing on the body, he will have temporary amnesia. It happened with 7 into 8.
Regeneration is very unstable as it is, look at 9 into 10...he was asleep for hours. 5 into 6...he went crazy.
I would highly expect it to be temporary.
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Anyway, my thoughts. It was a decent episode, not the best but great nonetheless. Everything fit together in a nice package and the ending was starting to get me...then it got me. I shed a manly tear.
Does it though? Who's to say that he wont meet his final end in Trenzalore in the future, or that's where he puts his grave
Pretty much. Now we just need to learn how she did it.
There was a part in the episode where the Church of the Papal Mainframe had said that a splinter group engineered a child (River Song) and sent her back in time to kill the doctor. Perhaps Lem is Amy/Rory's child grown up in the future but gone back in time (or forward depending on when) to start the Church but couldn't do anything to stop her own indoctrination as a killer. So perhaps there's two River Songs but the only thing that changed is what they did after the indoctrination.
paradox121
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Doctor Who finishes second for the day in overnight ratings with 8.3m.
Which is fantastic for the show. For non UK people Christmas Day is quite the TV battleground, and so to be the second most watched show of the day is a real achievement. Even better, it beat out Coronation Street on the other side which has always been a bit of a rival.
Which is fantastic for the show. For non UK people Christmas Day is quite the TV battleground, and so to be the second most watched show of the day is a real achievement. Even better, it beat out Coronation Street on the other side which has always been a bit of a rival.
Harlock
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Maybe he already relearn when this happen.
The funny part is that the amnesia thing is like phoenix wright games, when phoenix is hit in the head or something like this and become a reason to show how to play the game.
killer_clank
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Massively low ratings compared to previous Christmas Day's across the board to be fair, but still good for Doctor Who it's able to beat out the soaps.
Given Doctor Who's massive time shift ratings it could possibly be the most watched show of the day in the end, which would be an amazing achievement as well.
paradox121
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Yeah ratings have been sinking slowly over the last few years for everyone. I'm guessing people are more dependent on iPlayer etc. Which is equally somewhere where Doctor Who thrives. Really does support the theory that overnights are becoming increasingly irrelevant though.
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Who would have got ten million had it been opposite Emmerdale, as normal. In fact, it had a big peak for the regeneration, with Corrie having finished early.
Mrs. Brown's Boys was always likely to top the day. It's quietly and subtly become the biggest comedy on the air- it was top for Christmas week last year without actually being shown on the day itself! It timeshifted monstrously, too, so don't expect Who to overtake it.
With that said, timeshift should be really good for Who as well. VOSDAL viewings (viewings after the first showing and before 2 in the morning of the next day which contribute to the overnights) are much less of a factor, and Doctor Who normally does a lot of business in the VOSDAL. It was basically a score draw with Coronation Street, too, with very similar ratings, which undoubtedly damaged the potential ratings for both shows. Corrie will timeshift, but far less than Who will.
Honestly, when all is said and done, I could see a final figure for TTOTD heading towards the sort of rating that The End of Time Part One got, give or take a million. Considering how much more promotion that episode got than this one... well, that's not bad at all.
Mrs. Brown's Boys was always likely to top the day. It's quietly and subtly become the biggest comedy on the air- it was top for Christmas week last year without actually being shown on the day itself! It timeshifted monstrously, too, so don't expect Who to overtake it.
With that said, timeshift should be really good for Who as well. VOSDAL viewings (viewings after the first showing and before 2 in the morning of the next day which contribute to the overnights) are much less of a factor, and Doctor Who normally does a lot of business in the VOSDAL. It was basically a score draw with Coronation Street, too, with very similar ratings, which undoubtedly damaged the potential ratings for both shows. Corrie will timeshift, but far less than Who will.
Honestly, when all is said and done, I could see a final figure for TTOTD heading towards the sort of rating that The End of Time Part One got, give or take a million. Considering how much more promotion that episode got than this one... well, that's not bad at all.
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Mrs browns boys is the unfunniest pile of shit I've ever seen, THAT was number one on Xmas day?
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In other ratings news, they've calculated the timeshift for The Day of the Doctor in the four weeks that followed it, as well as the standard +7 timeshift. It's added on another 426,000 unique viewers since the final figures came out, and so has now been watched by 13,266,000 viewers in the UK alone.
It's hard to put these figures in context, as we have so little to compare them to, but I believe BARB are rolling out Live+28 as a standard at some point next year, so we'll see more of these as time goes on.
The lowest common denominator, I guess.
I mean, I don't mind Mrs. Brown's Boys much, but I don't see why it's the biggest show of the day. Horses for courses, though!
It's hard to put these figures in context, as we have so little to compare them to, but I believe BARB are rolling out Live+28 as a standard at some point next year, so we'll see more of these as time goes on.
The lowest common denominator, I guess.
I mean, I don't mind Mrs. Brown's Boys much, but I don't see why it's the biggest show of the day. Horses for courses, though!
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ooooooh that was it 
A great run, Mr. Smith, I'll be missing you a lot!
And a great start for the new Doctor I'm excited for how his season(s) will pan out.
A great run, Mr. Smith, I'll be missing you a lot!And a great start for the new Doctor
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I do like Twelve's little leitmotif at the end. Dunno if they'll keep it, or if it'll just be an initial concept like The New Doctor was, but I like it anyway.
Also, it absolutely killed me when they brought back Four Knocks.
Also, it absolutely killed me when they brought back Four Knocks.
paradox121
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Imagine a badly acted pantomime with loads of jokes about an old woman's body parts, made funny because said old woman is incredibly dirty and uses the word 'fuck' liberally.
Yeah, I don't get it either. But all my middle-aged relatives love it. Must be a generational thing.
shanshan310
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I'm so torn over this episode. I loved 11 and I'm so excited for 12, so there's mixed feelings all round. There was so much about the episode that bothered me, even though I enjoyed it. I felt that the huge time leap and the doctor aging didn't really serve a purpose or make it feel grander in scale, nor did all of the "doctor's enemies" being there. Just having the daleks and the silence would have been ample already.
The doctor dying for the town and realising that river song must have given him her regenerations would have been so much better than the random beam of light down from the sky. That was pretty moment ruining for me.
Yeah, I think it was a great final line ;.; I even shed a couple of tears when Amy popped up even though she annoyed me to no end.
The doctor dying for the town and realising that river song must have given him her regenerations would have been so much better than the random beam of light down from the sky. That was pretty moment ruining for me.
Yeah, I think it was a great final line ;.; I even shed a couple of tears when Amy popped up even though she annoyed me to no end.
Nicktendo86
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I know, my in laws love it. My wife and I were looking at each other with confused faces last night thinking what the hell is this? Lol
Enjoyed that a lot, though we got some crazy production choices towards the end. First up it's very-clearly-not-Caitlyn-Blackwood as Young Amelia, followed by very-clearly-wearing-an-awful-unstyled-wig Karen Gillan. Add in that dicey split-second regeneration and you've got one really weird ending.
Still enjoyed it. Will definitely need a rewatch to take it all in though.
Still enjoyed it. Will definitely need a rewatch to take it all in though.
Baleoce
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This was also a "reset" regeneration that we've never seen before, so there might be some unexpected side effects of that that's gonna play out in the first ep or two.
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They aren't really production choices, though. Caitlin Blackwood is a teenager now- in fact, she's almost as tall as Gillan herself!
KG had a shaven head for Guardians of the Galaxy, so the wig was a necessity.
KG had a shaven head for Guardians of the Galaxy, so the wig was a necessity.
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Really great ratings, massively impressed. I really hope the mountainous amount of past lore dealt with and tidied up doesn't turn casual viewers/newcomers of returning!
Rewatched it this morning. Better in the places it succeeds on a second viewing, the same in the places where it falls flat, I think!
The New Doctor wasn't really a concept piece, Gold threw it together by dropping a MIDI guitar over a piece of score from Part One (the chase through the junkyard that culminates in The Master being abducted by the Naismiths.) - but seeing as this is all original, this stands a much stronger chance of showing up again... Which is good. It was nice.
Rewatched it this morning. Better in the places it succeeds on a second viewing, the same in the places where it falls flat, I think!
The New Doctor wasn't really a concept piece, Gold threw it together by dropping a MIDI guitar over a piece of score from Part One (the chase through the junkyard that culminates in The Master being abducted by the Naismiths.) - but seeing as this is all original, this stands a much stronger chance of showing up again... Which is good. It was nice.
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