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[jaxpunk]

don't forget vore

Well while that is weird, you aren't actually going to vore it up unless you swim with whales or something. Who knows.


Putting your dick into a kids fur suit, sadly I could see happening alot easier.

 

[Valnen]

Might be worth it to consider the the problem from the perspective of FuzzyOtterBalls, one of the Twitch admin:

With twitch as big as it is now they probably need to ditch the volunteer modding and move to paid employees only. This isn't a small niche website anymore, but a huge service for huge products.

 

[Sendou]

With twitch as big as it is now they probably need to ditch the volunteer modding and move to paid employees only. This isn't a small niche website anymore, but a huge service for huge products.

Yet the one causing the most problems here is a paid employee.

 

[Grakl]

underage gay fursona

I've seen it all, do I just unplug the internet now?

You haven't seen anything

 

[RooMHM]

Probably because the stream is his job and his only source of income

And because the whole story is just as unimportant as it seems to be? Nothing was gainec, nothing important was lost. There is no pride to defend whatsoever. It s all very silly.

 

[kick51]

Everyone realizes the level-headed guy in this discussion is named FuzzyOtterBalls, right?

you should see IamACatRapist420's musings on the nature of suffering

 

[jaxpunk]

You haven't seen anything

Shock me

 

[DataGhost]

And because the whole story is just as unimportant as it seems to be? Nothing was gainec, nothing important was lost. There is no pride to defend whatsoever. It s all very silly.

Except for the fact that part of the story, you almost lost your job and income to sustain yourself....yea, the whole story was unimportant

 

[Valnen]

Yet the one causing the most problems here is a paid employee.

And him being the only special case probably makes him harder to punish. I'm saying throw out the old moderation system and start over, this time with only professionals.

 

[mitch1971]

That seems pretty stupid. Twitch makes all this headway into being the premier videogame streaming site and they're willing to risk it all over one guy who can't control his behavior?

In owhat way are they risking it? They have millions of console owners lining up to fill the places of banned members. Twitch are sitting pretty, and arrogance is probably rife among the ranks at this present time.

 

[RooMHM]

Except for the fact that part of the story, you almost lost your job and income to sustain yourself....yea, the whole story was unimportant

What I m saying is that the point he fought for was totally not worth it, even if he wasn t losing his job.

 

[ab.aeterno]

First, I m not sure I would consider what most people did wasn t harassment. Sure they followed the supposed leader but posting "remove horror"s hardly harassment to me even if spammed. Thats just how twitch works (sadly).

That's only what we know about. I would assume, perhaps because I'm a cynic or because I've been around places like Reddit long enough to know, that he's probably getting a lot of directed, private harassment going beyond a hash tag campaign. I mean, someone tangentially involved in the Jurassic Park Jeep debacle/witch hunt was getting doxxed and death threats, and they hadn't even worked at the company accused in months, IIRC.

Mob mentality is real, and there have been way too many instances of gamers harassing people into submission to ignore or pretend that this doesn't happen.

Shock me

Oh dude, you don't issue that kind of challenge on the fucking Internet. You have no idea how deep that rabbit hole goes, trust me.

There hasn't been a worse case of curiosity since Pandora said gee this box looks pretty fuckin awesome I should see what's inside.

Spoiler

Gods save you

 

[ab.aeterno]

Edit: Whoops, double post. Please ignore.

 

[RooMHM]

That's only what we know about. I would assume, perhaps because I'm a cynic or because I've been around places like Reddit long enough to know, that he's probably getting a lot of directed, private harassment going beyond a hash tag campaign. I mean, someone tangentially involved in the Jurassic Park Jeep debacle/witch hunt was getting doxxed and death threats, and they hadn't even worked at the company accused in months, IIRC.

Mob mentality is real, and there have been way too many instances of gamers harassing people into submission to ignore or pretend that this doesn't happen.

I don t deny it but I doubt it came from the speedrunning community suffering from all this.

 

[Moral Panic]

The idea that asking a company to remove an employee due to his behaviour counts as harassment is troubling.

 

[ab.aeterno]

I don t deny it but I doubt it came from the speedrunning community suffering from all this.

That's fair enough.

 

[BakedSardine]

 

[Fotheringay]

Damn. I certainly wasn't expecting to find this on reddit when I woke up. What they don't address in there is not that JUST that one thread got deleted, but several others, which did not include personal information were vanished. I made a few to test on /r/games and /r/twitch, and I believe another GAFer did as well, all pulled within minutes.

 

[Parallax Scroll]

how did the twitch admins even catch the speedrunners if they are so fast

 

[DataGhost]

They just censored the twitch thread which followed the rules on r/gaming and was on front page

 

[Wilsongt]

how did the twitch admins even catch the speedrunners if they are so fast

Bah dum tish

 

[Mudkips]

The absolute worst thing about Twitch is those fucking faces and shit that get spammed.
I don't often watch shit on Twitch, but when I do I have only the player open, not the chat, the channel page, etc.

The absolute worst thing about Reddit is the Reddit.

 

[RockTurtle]

Of course twitch admins would find a way to butt heads with one of the most harmless groups of people on earth (speedgamers.)

But even dealing with groups that "deserve" some kind of action (FGC), they tend to go about it in the shittiest way and air it out publicly in chats.

they've got that MS and Sony money now, so basically, we're fucked.

Shit, the FGC can't get a fucking break

EDIT: r/gaming just removed the twitch thread. things about to go HAM!

 

[Zomba13]

Damn. I certainly wasn't expecting to find this on reddit when I woke up. What they don't address in there is not that JUST that one thread got deleted, but several others, which did not include personal information were vanished. I made a few to test on /r/games and /r/twitch, and I believe another GAFer did as well, all pulled within minutes.

Yup. I made one with all names blurred regarding Twitch staff getting reddit mods to censor stuff and it was gone within a minute or so. Didn't violate any rules either.

 

[BitStyle]

They just censored the twitch thread which followed the rules on r/gaming and was on front page

I don't understand why they're still trying to stifle legitimate discussion regarding this circumstance on r/gaming; it's just gonna blow up in their face harder.

 

[DataGhost]

I don't understand why they're still trying to stifle legitimate discussion regarding this circumstance on r/gaming; it's just gonna blow up in their face harder.

Thankfully, it's back. I'm sure the admins took action after the people who were informed about the thread contacted the admins.

 

[muu]

Ah, I love stuff like this. The internet is there for free speech, right up until free speech hurts the bottom line of whatever site you're speaking thru. It'll be interesting to see what comes out of this.

 

[Costia]

They just censored the twitch thread which followed the rules on r/gaming and was on front page

It is still on the front page...
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1r4r5c/twitchtv_speedrunners_banned_by_admin_abusing/
The website it was linking to crashed due to all the traffic, but there is an image of it in the comments.

Edit: nm . apparently it was temporary or something

 

[charsace]

Dude is gonna ruin twitch over stupid shit. The damage is already done. People will start jumping ship.

 

[Spookie]

Dude is gonna ruin twitch over stupid shit. The damage is already done. People will start jumping ship.

Where to and so what? The void will be filled by console owners jumping on the twitch bandwagon. I'm not defending this behaviour on both sides, but there isn't half a large amount of hyperbolic horse shit being flung around.

 

[Uncle AJ]

What truly sucks about all this IMO is that Twitch has grown into such a large entity that losing the support of a handful of speedrunners affects them as much as a pebble being chipped off Mount Rushmore. Between all of the million-plus-viewer MOBA streams that bring in the majority of their traffic, and working with Sony and Microsoft in official capacities, the Twitch management probably doesn't feel any obligation to keep supporting "the little guy." Twitch can continue to operate as it always has in spite of this controversy.

 

[Dorygrant]

As a long time lurker in the community it does make me upset they are messing with speedrunners. I wonder how long this will go on and if it will effect future streamers.

 

[Ferrio]

Makes me glad I never did that turbo bs.

 

[Grakl]

Shock me

Lol, if that's the worst you've seen then nah, it wouldn't be responsible of me to do

 

[dave is ok]

This is fursecution, plain and simple.

Spoiler

Remove Horror

 

[TheRedSnifit]

Maybe I just didn't see enough of what was going on.
From what I have seen it doesn't look like reddit actively censored anything.
I still think reddit was flooded by a lot of fake users/trolls which caused a lot of threads to be deleted.
I really can't see why something like this would draw so much attention on it's own.

According to a quote posted earlier in this thread, the /r/gaming mod deleted the threads because it was a "witch hunt". The claims of vote manipulation didn't come until later.

So he decided it would be OK to make fun of Horror by telling a sexist joke (apparently this is considered normal behaviour by twitch users). So he got banned.

What? How was that a sexist joke?

 

[theprodigy]

According to a quote posted earlier in this thread, the /r/gaming mod deleted the threads because it was a "witch hunt". The claims of vote manipulation didn't come until later.

reddit mods completely failing at covering their asses, I am shocked

 

[Froli]

lol? This thing is even in Itmejp Subreddit.

 

[Dusk Golem]

This whole fiasco makes me happy I decided not to hop onboard with Twitch and been streaming my stuff on some other obscure streaming site.

 

[Recall]

Horror is clearly untouchable. So instead of addressing the issue they just make it so it can't be discussed making it go away in due time.

 

[snack]

Horror is clearly untouchable. So instead of addressing the issue they just make it so it can't be discussed making it go away in due time.

This won't go away. The harder Twitch tries to make it go away, the bigger it's gonna explode in their face.

 

[charsace]

Where to and so what? The void will be filled by console owners jumping on the twitch bandwagon. I'm not defending this behaviour on both sides, but there isn't half a large amount of hyperbolic horse shit being flung around.

If the favoritism is this overt some of the bigger people will jump ship. Because this guy did nothing and was rewarded with something that only the top members should have. And of course the mod abuse. I wouldn't be surprised if people started going to similar sites instead.

 

[dave is ok]

Honestly, Twitch should just move this guy to a job that doesn't have any abusable powers. If he isn't qualified for a job like that, just fire him.

 

[Recall]

Honestly, Twitch should just move this guy to a job that doesn't have any abusable powers. If he isn't qualified for a job like that, just fire him.

Twitch is about friends hiring friends.

Twitch doesn't have a headquarters where things are discussed and meetings take place, right? Or do they have a professional base?

I just imagine the whole thing bring worked on nothing more than emails and skype calls but I'm unfamiliar with how they function as a business.

 

[Vito]

At this point guy needs to be fired followed by an apology "the former employee does not represent the views of the company..."

 

[dave is ok]

Twitch is about friends hiring friends.

Twitch doesn't have a headquarters where things are discussed and meetings take place, right? Or do they have a professional base?

I just imagine the whole thing bring worked on nothing more than emails and skype calls but I'm unfamiliar with how they function as a business.

Twitch have a headquarters. They're a pretty big deal now.

That's why this type of unprofessional, childish bullshit is surprising.

 

[Foffy]

I just imagine the whole thing bring worked on nothing more than emails and skype calls but I'm unfamiliar with how they function as a business.

I think it is mostly this. There are staff members who live in entirely different countries.

 

[nubbe]

This kind of drama is actually right in the public eye now when they have millions of users around the corner

So it is time to start acting professional if they want to have continued relationships with Sony and Microsoft.

 

[dave is ok]

Here is the best run down of the entire event I could find: http://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/1r2f1k/rip_in_peace_werster/cdj10be

Also: lol

 

[Venfayth]

This kind of drama is actually right in the public eye now when they have millions of users around the corner

So it is time to start acting professional if they want to have continued relationships with Sony and Microsoft.

Yeah, but like, man, Horror is a nice guy