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The Xbox Story, how Microsoft Squandered Their Reputation Overnight.

MormaPope

Banned
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Microsoft pitched the original Xbox as a hardcore gaming console. While I sorta cringe at the wording and idea of the pitch, the original Xbox was indeed that. While the PS2 had a slew of exclusives and an incredible software lineup, the original Xbox felt different, unique.

There wasn't a Western competitor as ambitious as Microsoft was with the Xbox. While the Gamecube and PS2 were very Eastern in software and design, the Xbox was completely Western in software and design. Plenty of PC games got ported to the Xbox, performance for most games was much better on the Xbox.

The Xbox help bring Western developers to the console space. Of course there were Western developers working on console games long before the Xbox, but the Xbox as a whole brought a different and unique flavor to gaming.

Flash forward to the 360.


Such abysmal hardware failure, inexcusable, but what the 360 brought to the table in it's first 5 years was incredible. Interactivity with marketplaces and other people was hinted at during the original Xbox, whatever interactivity happened on the Xbox felt like an incredibly neat extra or bonus with the console.

The 360 was built around that idea. No longer did you have to subscribe to magazines to get demos, expansions to games could be bought and downloaded from the console itself, you can talk to a friend during any game at any time with a few clicks of a button.

None of those things are new for PC owners, but it felt amazingly intuitive on a console. No longer were you alone in a room with whatever is in your grasp, you were part of an online ecosystem in which functionality within the console realm was increased tenfold.

The software lineup for the 360 was also fantastic. Retail exclusives died down in the past couple of years, but the initial wave of exclusive games on the 360 were great. You had a gardening sim with pinata animals, you were a CSI detective caught in one of the worst parts of town, you scaled skyscrapers and your car can morph due to the experience it gets.

XBLA brought smaller games into the limelight for console owners, no longer were people restricted to experiences at retail. For $10 or $20 you can get a game that's equal to the experience of a $60 game.

Some really hated the end game for the 360, where apps and Kinect became a new priority. Due to the actual software on the 360 though, I didn't care. I had and still have software to play and experience, third party developers have picked up the 360 and carried it outside the door.

Onto the storm clouds.


You know how I just talked about interactivity and being able to benefit from it? What if you still had those same pros from before, but added in a avalanche of cons?

Used games becoming new game passes, having to be online during a 24 hour period to play games, period. Xbox Live Gold probably still on the table, Kinect has to be plugged in so Microsoft can sell the Xbox at a higher price.

It doesn't matter what good can come from these current proposals, Microsoft is using the online infrastructure they have in place to impede on what have been traditional practices. Publishers and Developers may benefit from these systems, but at the cost of having a balanced business relationship.

Interactivity and "Always on" can bring fantastic changes and benefits to console owners and all of gaming. But those changes won't matter if the user feels restricted and bound to following a regiment so these changes can occur, progress is more than something new or different, progress is making something in the past better than it used to be.

The Xbox One isn't an instant failure, and polices can be changed while keeping what makes some of the changes sound fantastic. But at this moment, I don't feel inclined to invest in something that has such a haphazard treatment of it's user base.

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I'm pretty sure most people on these forums already hated Microsoft before the Xbone event. All of this is just more of the same.
 

jwk94

Member
Ok, this is kinda harsh. I understand all of the negative press around the console, but Microsoft entered this business to penetrate the living room. That goal is being realized with the Xbox One.
 

Alchemy

Member
The original Xbox was a fucking monster. It even has a couple of games running at 720p. Fucking loved my Xbox.
 

electro

Banned
Why does everyone reference that hideous picture of Steve Balmer - that image is sure to visit me in my nightmares at some stage.

Hopefully Microsoft make a splash at E3, it's now or never.
 

TigerKnee

Member
Yes and GAF is the telltale sign of a console's success.

Myself along with most of my friends are getting it day one.
 
Ok, this is kinda harsh. I understand all of the negative press around the console, but Microsoft entered this business to penetrate the living room. That goal is being realized with the Xbox One.
Should have brought more lube, cause it's going to take a while at this rate.
 

MormaPope

Banned
I'm pretty sure most people on these forums already hated Microsoft before the Xbone event.

And?

My point is Microsoft took what was appealing to Xbox/Xbox 360 fans and are being overly aggressive towards what the user does, using the systems they have in place to do so.
 

ShOcKwAvE

Member
Really sick of these foolish threads. How any of you take video games so seriously is beyond me. You won't even wait three weeks for MS to show you the games?
 

MormaPope

Banned
This was always their end game.

The original Xbox had almost the same feature set as the Gamecube and PS2. At the time Microsoft heads felt the way to the living room would be by a videogame console.

The 360 had a lot more interactivity and features, which both benefited games and any service they could plop onto the 360.
 

emb

Member
Yeah... it feels like the first Xbox was just an attempt to get a foot in the door. The 360 was made to secure MS some popularity and reputation so they could finally dominate at this point. And this is what they do?
 

Sydle

Member
Way too early to tell given the mixed reactions. We simply don't have enough of the game side of things to begin to suggest how this will turn out and there's plenty of time for MS to put their cash to use to set the tone straight.
 

MormaPope

Banned
It was terrible but I'd wait till after E3 to make definitive statements like this.

Dude, it hasn't even been 2 days since you first laid eyes on it.

Yes and GAF is the telltale sign of a console's success.

Myself along with most of my friends are getting it day one.

God the doom and gloom is tiring.

Really sick of these foolish threads. How any of you take video games so seriously is beyond me. You won't even wait three weeks for MS to show you the games?

If you read my OP, you would've seen that I said it doesn't matter what software is available. I'd rather miss out on Xbox One features and exclusives and just build a PC or get a PS4.
 
Didn't read the rant, but that pic of the new Xbox One and controller actually looks really sexy compared to the old toy-like hardware.

I wasn't a huge fan of the design, but at that angle it does really look high end and sexy. Still like classic Kinect better though.
 
And it shows how outdated the plan is.

In the world of smart devices, smart tvs, roku, Apple TV, and dvr's, a do everything living room device already seems like a dinosaur.

This is the biggest flaw in their plan. By the time they got into the position to execute the "dream" they've had since they entered the console space, it was already an outdated notion.

Not that anyone over there actually realized that...
 

wages

Banned
It's insane the amount of jihad sony fanboys that are crawling the web these last couple of days. Mods are on vacation (not necessarily here but on other forums) and SDF types are letting their balls hang out.

I'm cool off of all the trolling.
 
And it shows how outdated the plan is.

In the world of fast evolving smart devices, smart tvs, roku, Apple TV, and dvr's, a do everything living room device already seems like a dinosaur.

Just what I was going to say, they realized their plan but after it no longer really matters.
 

MAX PAYMENT

Member
So much effort and reaction to a one hour presentation that didn't show much.
I think people should calm down and wait for e3.
 

Tookay

Member
Ok, this is kinda harsh. I understand all of the negative press around the console, but Microsoft entered this business to penetrate the living room. That goal is being realized with the Xbox One.

Okay, and?

Now that it's finally coming to fruition, some gaffers are having none of it.

Just because they stated their intention, doesn't magically justify everything that comes from it.
 

MormaPope

Banned
It's insane the amount of jihad sony fanboys that are crawling the web these last couple of days. Mods are on vacation (not necessarily here but on other forums) and SDF types are letting their balls hang out.

I'm cool off of all the trolling.

The 360 was my main console this gen, switched to the Original Xbox towards the end of the previous gen. I'm sorry my words make you think I'm trying to be malicious.
 
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