Wait, what well? The one by the dead body near Firelink Shrine?
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I got Dark Souls. Now what?
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Wait, what well? The one by the dead body near Firelink Shrine?
IndieJones
Member
You've gotten Dark Souls, now you have to "get" Dark Souls.
The hook is that it's the most well-designed exploration RPG and one of the most well-designed action-combat RPGs in recent memory. Dying a lot is pretty incidental to the whole package.
Keyser Soze
Member
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but you actually drop all souls when you die no matter when you picked them up. Bonfires have nothing to do with it. I sounds like you're saying bonfires allow you to "bank" your souls.
H_Prestige
Banned
Yup, my mistake.
I'm not sure I would call in it happiness...
No monster can hurt you in the well. Crestfallen Warrior is always raving about that place.
Kenshin001
Member
Take it back and get Demon's Souls.
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
How does one go crabbing?
sixteen-bit
Member
Take it back for the inferior game? That's strange.
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
I think they're about equal. Demon's Souls might be a little better because it doesn't have the command queue glitch though.
I didn't play Demon Souls so I went into Dark Souls not knowing what to expect. First hour I loved the game, three hours later I was ready to break the disc and never play the game ever again. Gave the game one more chance and it finally clicked. Loved absolutely every moment after the initial learning curve. Just be patient and don't give up.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Robot Pants
Member
this is what I came to post.
arglebargle
Member
the game is hard, but not as hard as people say. you will die, but its more likely that you will die because you got impatient. i have played less than i would like so far so as an also kinda new-ish player (who has spent a lot of time with demons souls) my advice is:
be patient
spoil yourself as little as possible, enemy designs are awesome to see for the first time in game, and figuring out stuff for yourself is rewarding
go up after leaving the firelink shrine
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i have a question, actually. in demons souls its sorta received wisdom that starting as a royal is "easy mode" is there an equivalent in dark souls? not that im going to play that way, just curious.
be patient
spoil yourself as little as possible, enemy designs are awesome to see for the first time in game, and figuring out stuff for yourself is rewarding
go up after leaving the firelink shrine
edit:
i have a question, actually. in demons souls its sorta received wisdom that starting as a royal is "easy mode" is there an equivalent in dark souls? not that im going to play that way, just curious.
Oracle Dragon
Member
The game is fantastic, but the difficulty is quite overrated IMO. If you try and play this game like it is God of War, you will think it is very hard and die constantly (and quickly). If you realize that the pace of the game is much slower, it is about being cautions and playing it safe, you will not find it hard or unfair. The most important thing is don't get greedy in combat. There is always this temptation to just try and get in that one more strike, and that's when you take a beating.
Raise shield, bad guy clangs of your shield, drop shield, 2x light strike or 1x strong strike, repeat. When exploring, walk around with your shield UP, don't run. Being patient will solve virtually all of your combat and exploration related problems.
I agree it is a poor gift for a newbie, but you can't change your gift in NG+ so if he gets hooked, he's can't change his gift. I suppose it doesn't really matter anymore anyways, as you can buy the Master Key for souls in 1.05 IIRC.
Raise shield, bad guy clangs of your shield, drop shield, 2x light strike or 1x strong strike, repeat. When exploring, walk around with your shield UP, don't run. Being patient will solve virtually all of your combat and exploration related problems.
I agree it is a poor gift for a newbie, but you can't change your gift in NG+ so if he gets hooked, he's can't change his gift. I suppose it doesn't really matter anymore anyways, as you can buy the Master Key for souls in 1.05 IIRC.
SUBZERO-08
Member
Don't worry, it's not that hard. You'll die, but only cause you fucked up. Just don't go running around without checking your surrounding, and keep your shield up. Always.
Yeah. Any action-y games I die way more than in the Souls games.
I think people just aren't used to taking things slow.
I know I died more in a single room in UC3 (
the room with the fountain and fire head guys
To Far Away Times
Member
I wish Demon's Souls had the same difficulty but the penalty for dying wasn't as high. It's not a terribly difficult game, just a punishing one. Still an awesome game though.
Oracle Dragon
Member
Pyro is probably about the same, though maybe Warrior. Royal was "easier" than others because the first thing people would do is run and get the crescent falchion and be very strong for the first portion of the game with the magic scaling + Royals magic stat. Pyro has strong magic at the start (that needs no stats), and Warrior (or anyone with 16 STR) can get a sword quite early on that lets you 1-shot most normal enemies.
TigerUppercut
Member
Rush headfirst into everything and brute force your way through the game. Get two cestus and punch everything to death.
revolverjgw
Member
Keep pyro magic in mind. I suck at combat but a maxed out flame will take down every boss in about 15 seconds. They'll see your Combustion and Iron Flesh and lie down like they're in a Nintendo game. Got me through some frustrating encounters.
Didn't the patch nerf pyromancy? I haven't played since I finished, so I never checked out the patch. But I'm pretty sure I read the damage was reduced and Iron Flesh is kind of useless now.
revolverjgw
Member
Maybe, I haven't played it since the patch. Good thing I finished it early then. I really think I might have given up on a few of those bosses.
Pyromancy in general is still good, though its overall power was reduced by the patch. Iron Flesh got nerfed hard, and using it against bosses is pretty suicidal anymore.
yellowjacket25
Member
It's a different kind of dying. In the souls games dying can cost you a lot of time and possibly a lot of souls, which makes the dying seem a lot worse. That creates a fear of dying and a need for more careful gameplay. In Uncharted I have never really cared if I die. I will go in guns blazing. If I die, oh well. The last checkpoint was probably 30 seconds ago.
PS3. Game is identical on 360 and ps3, but the community is much larger on ps3.
Phonomezer
Banned
Be prepared to get frustrated for the first few hours. The game can feel fairly overwhelming at first because of its open nature, but stick with it until it clicks because it's an awesome game.
Still haven't finished it here
Still haven't finished it here
Ozzykamikaze
Member
I lol'd and I know exactly what you mean. It's like the game has too high expectations of you and you don't want to disappoint it.
IonicSnake
Banned
Pretty much this.
Also, don't try to be a hero, there's a reason there are so many heroes souls out there in the world.
You won't really die THAT much, at least not CoD levels, that game is just mean with those monster closets.
As others have said, all you need is a little patience, which can be hard if you hit a wall and start getting frustrated, just take it slow.
As for actual advice, start off with a shield and a spear, makes getting used to the game easier.
As others have said, all you need is a little patience, which can be hard if you hit a wall and start getting frustrated, just take it slow.
As for actual advice, start off with a shield and a spear, makes getting used to the game easier.
Shin Kojima
Banned
Just don't listen to the people who tell you you need a guide to complete the game.
SpaceBridge
Member
Hows the saving system in Dark Souls? One of my pet peeve in Demons Souls was that I couldnt just play it for a bit, I had to invest long stretches of time.
Air Zombie Meat
Member
You can save and quit at anytime and the game will put you back right where you were.
SpaceBridge
Member
Wow, really? Thats soooo awesome.
Is there a pause screen now, incase I get a call?
There's no direct pause function, but if you quit to the main menu you'll be standing exactly where you were when you quit when you load your game. It's what to do when you need to leave the game alone for a spell.
Discotheque
Banned
Open that door in the tower in undead burg (the one before you go up the stairs to fight your first legit boss taurus demon) and you'll see some giant dude in heavy armor named Havel.
Slap him a couple of times with your sword and walk away from his lethargic swings and you'll get a great ring.
Slap him a couple of times with your sword and walk away from his lethargic swings and you'll get a great ring.
don't worry too much, and enjoy the atmosphere.
- at the start (fire link shrine) if you head into a graveyard with skeletons, turn around. That area is really hard and so save it for later. You want to go up the stairs towards the bridge.
- When you level up using souls, only put as many points into DEX/STR as you need for the weapon you want to use. Anything else put into endurance to help your stamina, at least up to 40 points.
- decide what you want to do - magic/massive weapons/balance. You can add other things in later though. e.g. I was a wanderer so melee, and then found a glove later to do fire spells.
- when you die, you only drop souls/humanity, not any items you pick up. You can go back to where you die and collect your souls. But if you die before you get there, they're gone. You can use this to do suicide runs to pick up items if you want, you know you'll lose your souls but you'll keep whatever it was you picked up.
- don't cheese the dragon on the bridge
You'll have a great time, just explore
- at the start (fire link shrine) if you head into a graveyard with skeletons, turn around. That area is really hard and so save it for later. You want to go up the stairs towards the bridge.
- When you level up using souls, only put as many points into DEX/STR as you need for the weapon you want to use. Anything else put into endurance to help your stamina, at least up to 40 points.
- decide what you want to do - magic/massive weapons/balance. You can add other things in later though. e.g. I was a wanderer so melee, and then found a glove later to do fire spells.
- when you die, you only drop souls/humanity, not any items you pick up. You can go back to where you die and collect your souls. But if you die before you get there, they're gone. You can use this to do suicide runs to pick up items if you want, you know you'll lose your souls but you'll keep whatever it was you picked up.
- don't cheese the dragon on the bridge
You'll have a great time, just explore