Kataploom
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Oh no, buddy they aren't, these are products people want
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Xenoblade Chronicles 1, 2, and 3 Nintendo Switch 2 Edition announced (XBC available later today; XBC2 on July 30; XBC3 on December 3)
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March Climber
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Whether people want it or not is irrelevant. The issue with a statement like the one I put in quotations is the fact that 99% of these companies don't put all of their developer manpower into simple remasters with slight additions, and a large percentage of remasters are done by separate companies known for remasters anyway. However for some reason, it's the first sentence people say when you ask them why they don't want a remaster.
tl;dr it's a moot point.
Touch fuzZy. get BizZay
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These muppets have no clue what they're talking about and it seems like half the people ITT have forgotten what the issues with XBX are.
The game not being native 4k and therefor a bit soft isn't the issue, it's this shit:
Warping/deforming textures everywhere as soon as you start moving the camera (and this also affects ground textures, everything you see) and I can't see this anywhere in the XB1 footage they've provided. The foliage/trees in the distance look a bit shimmery but not nearly like what is going on in XBX, the ground also looks kinda fine. I also don't see it in the raw footage @alf717 provided (but I do wish he had not moved the camera as much as he did).
I'll wait for DF to take a look at it, but from what I am seeing it's definitely not comparable at all.
yeah I watched the whole vid without seeing anything like that
man that SUCKS for XCX on switch 2 tho, nasty
Touch fuzZy. get BizZay
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that would lick literal ball sack
they said Pyra and Mythra will "get new equipment" but we don't know what that means yet so we could be jumping to conclusions
NeoIkaruGAF
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Madjaba
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What kind of censoring ?
Pejo
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Not much to go on right now, but supposedly some insider gave a wink and nudge about this bit:
Could be nothing, could be extra new stuff that doesn't supplant the old stuff, we'll have to wait and see.
Dr.Morris79
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mèx
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I interpreted that as new optional skins for Pyra and Mythra. They are the most popular characters in the Xenoblade games so I don't think they will change their default outfits, it would be completely idiotic.
Pejo
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Counterpoint, the Tokyo Mirage Sesssions Censorship driven by Treehouse:
Idiocy be damned, Treehouse should never be trusted or shown goodwill. This is just one of many examples.
But as I said, I'll wait and see.
delishcaek
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If they were to censor, why stop at Pyra and Mythra? Now we can control blades, T-elos has a much more detailed butt under her skirt. Kona with her stripper skirt and kinda thong is also questionable. Then all the unlockable swimsuits and Nia's upskirtable dress.Counterpoint, the Tokyo Mirage Sesssions Censorship driven by Treehouse:
Idiocy be damned, Treehouse should never be trusted or shown goodwill. This is just one of many examples.
But as I said, I'll wait and see.
I know, never say never, but I don't buy it. Treehouse only butchered the script, but they never changed anything visually in XB2. Even when people thought they censored Mythra, it was just the optional Smash Bros outfit, so I don't think they're going to change anything now.
BennyBlanco
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This will be the true test for xb2 censorship
mèx
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Lucky you, you have yet to experience absolute peak.
cireza
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This is the single occurrence I can think of of censorship actually making a game significantly worse, because an entire part of the game (2nd or 3rd dungeon) didn't make any sense anymore as the characters were not revealing their body, yet the text and everything remained the same.
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
I played for a few hours last night on my TV. It definitely drops frames here and there but it's much better than playing at 30.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Pretty strange way of wording it, but not too surprising. Torna was sold separately (both physically and digitally) so they're just giving people who bought it standalone the free upgrade. If you bought it as DLC to the main game, you'll have to buy the upgrade to the main game to get the benefits on the DLC.
German Shocks
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That's crap. Existing owners of the DLC should get a free upgrade, too.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
The problem is that the DLC version of Torna is "built in" to Xenoblade 2. You have to launch Xenoblade 2, then select "Torna - The Golden Country" from the main menu. If you bought it standalone (either physical or digital) it's a whole other icon on your Switch home screen.
The Switch 2 has a lot of stuff happening in the background when you launch a Switch 2 game vs launching a Switch 1 game in BC. It sets the CPU clock speeds, memory timing, etc. So they can't just give away the upgrade to Torna without either giving away the upgrade to everyone, or without fucking up the main game for those that didn't buy the upgrade.
At least be glad they don't make you own the Torna DLC Switch 2 Edition Upgrade Pack, which is honestly what I expected. That, or just not offering the upgrade at all to people who bought the expansion standalone.
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Shifty1897
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I've resolved to play through the series again for the Switch 2 updates but in New Game + mode so I can enjoy the story without spending the time grinding and side questing.
Danjin44
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???? People asking for years for Switch 2 version of Xenoblade games.
German Shocks
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delishcaek
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Gambit2483
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I mean, you can easily find this discounted as long as you don't mind buying used. Then just get the upgrade for $10. There's no reason you can't get this on Switch 2 for $50 or less, if you really wanted it.The first one is the only I don't have for the switch and I'm not paying $60 for it.
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Gambit2483
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It would've been better if they just included Torna on the new Switch 2 Cart. I have both the Torna DLC and the physical game card but would've like to have everything all in one place (and not taking up memory space).
Hideous Snake
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Bought the upgrade pack for the first game and doing NG+ currently
Salmorejo
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They haven't fucked up the graphics this time, right?
Hideous Snake
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Not at all. Absolute beauty and smooth! Unfortunately I did get the XCX upgrade pack too but haven't replayed it yet
Sohurmk833
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Nintendo is giving people what they want. Simple as.
If Microsoft and Sony were smart they´d do the same. Plenty of Ps3/4 games that people would like an upgrade for.
Hideous Snake
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Half of a generation being remasters and remakes isn't considered milking but this is. Cheers
Danjin44
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Exactly this! People asking fucking forever for Bloodborne PS5 upgrade but Sony just ignores it.
I'm not even asking for full remaster, just simple PS5 patch.
Sohurmk833
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Player: Hey Sony! What about your old franchises like classic God of War, Resistance, Killzone, Motorstorm, Ratchet & Clank, Sly Raccoon and so on? I´d like to have Remasters and Patches/Upgrades for those. I´d even pay for it. Just bring'em over to PS5.
Sony: Nope. You get Marathon, Concord, Horizon and Fairgames. If you don´t like that fuck off.
Player: Hey Nintendo! Can you give us some upgrades for our Switch classics like Xenoblade, Zelda and Mario?
Nintendo: Ok but you´ll have to pay 10 bucks for some of them.
Player: Alright.
BUT NINTENDO IS MILKING THE FANBASE!!!!!!
Danjin44
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Hey if that's considered "milking" then I wish Sony would milk the crap out of Bloodborne or Gravity Rush.
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Dr.Morris79
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It's a bit shit to think it's seeming ever more likely that to get the best out of those games will be emulation
Sony is so shit
Salmorejo
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I wouldn't buy PS4 ports for the PS5 because most of the original games already look nice on the PS4, but of course I want Switch 2 ports because some Switch 1 games look horrible on portable mode, like all Xenoblades.
Sohurmk833
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Don´t agree. A lot of PS4 games still run at 30 fps and often have resolutions of 1080 or below.
hardwood007
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So I can transfer my XC2 Save from my switch to switch 2, get the upgrade pack and do NG+ on switch 2 with the enhancements and added content?
Hideous Snake
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Correct. That's what I did
Gambit2483
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It's called hypocrisy. They shit their pants when MGS3, Resident Evil anything, or Silent Hill gets a Remake and even beg for a Bloodborne Remaster but as soon as Nintendo does a significant Remake of 2 of their greatest games ever it becomes "Oh those are just more remakes. Booo! So boring, Nintendo."
Salmorejo
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A bump from 1080p 30fps to upscaled 4K 60fps isn't enough for me to double dip, but a bump from 400p ~30fps to upscaled 1080p 60fps is another story.
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spookyfish
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I am not the only one, it seems.
I want all new physicals, as well, because I am insane.
LordCBH
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I mean I'm buying like my 500th copy of the Kingdom Hearts collection when that drops on the switch. Rebuying the xenoblades once is sane compared to me lol