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Xbox: "These [E-Day and Clockwork] are not timed exclusives. Games already announced for multiplatform releases will stick to that plan"
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nial
Member
Like I said:
And it's not like they get a cut from every Steam sale. What is Microsoft gaining from the same people that were already using Windows for literally anything else buying their games on someone else's storefront?
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LostDonkey
Member
So Microsoft doesn't make any money from Xbox games sold through Steam?
For some, it's probably nothing... Those who have been wanting it to disappear since 2000.
Clearly, everyone's enthusiasm varies, but the existence of people wanting to compete fiercely (even if they don't ultimately achieve the desired results) always translates into pressure and more effort from everyone else to avoid being outdone or falling behind.
It's as simple as comparing Xbox's attitude now to that of recent years to see that something has changed.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Asha's balls in my throat?
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MisterXDTV
Member
They make the same money they make when they release them on PS5
LOL
So it's not MS ecosystem
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Goalus
Member
Last time I checked I wasn't Jez Corden.
You however are clearly a Steam cuck.
Witchilich
Member
Not just PC. Back then they only released these on Microsoft Store. Steam is a completely different platform. This is no more exclusive to one platform.
Seiryu21
Member
I don't think steam cucks are the ones pretending that steam is part of the Microsoft ecosystem lmao.
Goalus
Member
Of course not, but as I said only Steam cucks pretend that the Microsoft Store doesn't exist.
nial
Member
They do in the same way they make money from Xbox games sold through PS5. How can we struggle with such a simple concept
Witchilich
Member
Yes.
It says on the very first line of the snippet in OP.
Does Microsoft understand what they are saying?
DreamcastSkies
Gold Member
I am. Xbox has better IP than Playstation. It's time they sell it
Doom, Elder Scrolls, Gears, Forza, etc vs God of War and The Last Of Us. This is a no brainer.
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gametimedecision
Gold Member
That doesn't go against anything he said?
Topher
Identifies as young
Windows is an open platform so it isn't an ecosystem beyond its own store. Saying "also on PC" equates to Microsoft ecosystem is not necessarily true.
Goalus
Member
The Sony customer support is finally here, great.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Asha's balls in my throat?
It says it's Xbox console exclusive. What underlying message are you seeing that no one else is?
Seiryu21
Member
It definitely exists, which begs the question of why aren't Microsoft games exclusive to said store?
Mr.Phoenix
Member
Apparently, it being on PC also counts as it being exclusive as of today.
Hell, at this rate, we should start saying third-party console exclusive for their games that aren't on the Switch 2.
Fixed.
Lord Malachite
Gold Member
I'm sure these games will remain "Xbox console exclusives" until they fail to recoup the expense of making them.
There is some logic to keeping Gears Of War: E-Day exclusive as only a single title in the franchise is available on other consoles. If Xbox did really want to "prime the PS5 pump" for it, I imagine they'd be scrambling to dump all the other games there to build an audience for it. The game looks pretty good to me. But as a PS5 gamer without access to almost the entire franchise, if it were comibg to PS5, I wouldn't buy it because I'm not invested in the series.
Clockwork Revolution intrigues me enough that if it comes to PS5, I'll buy it. At the same time, if it really does stay Xbox console exclusive forever, I won't be shedding tears and port begging. It's interesting enough I'd try it. My game catalog is also large enough it won't keep me up at night to not have it.
Wishing Xbox success with their strategy. I'm very unconvinced it will work, but it will be interesting to watch them try and I'll gladly help myself to some humble pie if proven wrong.
There is some logic to keeping Gears Of War: E-Day exclusive as only a single title in the franchise is available on other consoles. If Xbox did really want to "prime the PS5 pump" for it, I imagine they'd be scrambling to dump all the other games there to build an audience for it. The game looks pretty good to me. But as a PS5 gamer without access to almost the entire franchise, if it were comibg to PS5, I wouldn't buy it because I'm not invested in the series.
Clockwork Revolution intrigues me enough that if it comes to PS5, I'll buy it. At the same time, if it really does stay Xbox console exclusive forever, I won't be shedding tears and port begging. It's interesting enough I'd try it. My game catalog is also large enough it won't keep me up at night to not have it.
Wishing Xbox success with their strategy. I'm very unconvinced it will work, but it will be interesting to watch them try and I'll gladly help myself to some humble pie if proven wrong.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
So they're saying these are permanent exclusives (console-wise), basically? That's interesting, and I guess they'll be doing that with more games going forward.
At least they gave an official statement on that; more than what SIE's publicly stated but they've got a business segment coming tomorrow, right? Then I guess we should expect something there.
If not, then I see no reason to not expect Wolverine, Laufey, Saros etc on PC/Steam 12-15 months post-launch.
At least they gave an official statement on that; more than what SIE's publicly stated but they've got a business segment coming tomorrow, right? Then I guess we should expect something there.
If not, then I see no reason to not expect Wolverine, Laufey, Saros etc on PC/Steam 12-15 months post-launch.
Mownoc
Member
Their games work on SteamOS lol.
LostDonkey
Member
So how are they giving away their games then, that's the question I'm asking. They're still collecting revenue by releasing them on another platform. Be it PC, Steam, PS5 etc...
I'm not the one claiming MS is giving away their games here.
Witchilich
Member
You clearly don't understand what I am saying.
It says it's Xbox console exclusive. What underlying message are you seeing that no one else is?
Is it really?
Shubh_C63
Member
We learned these terminology after the Tomb Raider timed exclusive debacle.
Console exclusive means no other console will have this game except Xbox. PC/Steam/WStore is not a console.
Topher
Identifies as young
If "PC IS Microsoft" were true then Microsoft wouldn't have to sell games through Steam
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Asha's balls in my throat?
DEAD ORIGINAL
Member
Xbox basically said our house is better than yours PS5, then invited him in for dinner and then let him sleep with his wife, oh but you're not getting ice-cream as well PS5.
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graywolf323
Member
expecting Xbox to be consistent is a folly, they have no idea what the fuck they're doing and haven't for 15 years at this point
MisterXDTV
Member
Witchilich
Member
Back then they didn't release in Steam. Halo MCC was 1st released on Steam. I think around 2020 they started released day one on steam. So its not back to old days.
MisterXDTV
Member
Because nobody buys PC games from their store....
Goalus
Member
Why isn't Heinz Ketchup exclusive to Walmart? I think they want to extend their potential customer base.
Mr Moose
Member
Unfortunately, yes.
nial
Member
Is this some sort of trolling? It looked like you actually managed to keep up with the conversation, even if making a completely wrong point here:
And now you're saying "but they are not giving away anything if they still make money off it!". What are you even talking about, you were the only one bringing up the wording of "giving away" in this conversation.
Seiryu21
Member
Yup, because most of their fans are actually on steam and not the console. The entire business is hilarious.
Fabieter
Member
They same amount they are making on ps5
PauloRoberto
Member
I dont think so... Jeff said that E-Day would not be announced for PS5, but now he is saying a PS5 build is ready. For me that indicates a higher up commercial decision (think about Ghost of Yotei cancelled PC port, it's almost the same case [almost because officially tis never existed, but E-Day is annouced for PS5 previously]).
The difference is that MS today is not strong enough to guarantee that this kind of release will sustain it self on xbox with game pass and pc with steam... heck, they wasted US$ 10 bi on bethesda for starfield and that was a bigger fart in the wind in the end...
ExtendEmbraceExtinguish
Member
Their goal is xboxpc or pc.
Rac3r
Member
Dumb. This is one game that desperately needs a big active player base to sustain the multiplayer. Pretty sure Playstation makes up the biggest share of sales and active users on Gears Reloaded (a remaster of a 20 year old game). Why cut off that userbase when Gears 4 and 5 are virtually dead online and you're trying to revitalize the series? Feels like they're setting this game up for failure. The same group of idiots cheering this on will be silent when the game is dead 6 months after release.
Seiryu21
Member
My only point is that if Microsoft is trying to sell their own ecosystem, then putting games on steam is the exact same as putting them on PlayStation. Neither are a part of their ecosystem.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Eh, it's a fairly minor commitment - 2 exclusives so far.
It's pretty clear that you need exclusives to bring people into an ecosystem and once there you can make money on first and third party sales as well as subs, etc.
I expect Xbox will announce more exclusives to try and seduce more players in down the line. I expect they'll end up on a similar path to sony in the future - single player story games will stay locked to the host platform while games that will benefit from a bigger player base to make it viable, like Marathon (!) will go multiplatform.
I'm interested to see what Xbox are prepared to do to shore up their platform going forward (I'm not convinced one game per year is enough!) but give than the new administration has only been running things for a few months, I would assume that most of what we see for a while will be decisions made by the old admin. I expect that they'll be trying to work out what is just enough to help people get onboard with their platform. Where that line is, is the interesting part.
It's pretty clear that you need exclusives to bring people into an ecosystem and once there you can make money on first and third party sales as well as subs, etc.
I expect Xbox will announce more exclusives to try and seduce more players in down the line. I expect they'll end up on a similar path to sony in the future - single player story games will stay locked to the host platform while games that will benefit from a bigger player base to make it viable, like Marathon (!) will go multiplatform.
I'm interested to see what Xbox are prepared to do to shore up their platform going forward (I'm not convinced one game per year is enough!) but give than the new administration has only been running things for a few months, I would assume that most of what we see for a while will be decisions made by the old admin. I expect that they'll be trying to work out what is just enough to help people get onboard with their platform. Where that line is, is the interesting part.
Witchilich
Member
Well shit you believe even with being forced to create an online account and being unhackable so that its forever stuck with being forced to create an online account, the fact that all first party physical releases require a day 1 patch and don't contain the full game on disc, a 9th gen console with only having 50 GB space on physical discs (so they don't care about physical releases) and backwards compatibility requiring you to download the game even if you own the game physically is a video game console. That is a PC and it has DRM built into it.Yeah, no shit. No one can.
MisterXDTV
Member
Fabieter
Member
January 2019: Office 365 apps became officially available to download directly from the Mac App Store for the very first time.
Microsoft as a business doesnt care about exclusive besides xbox.
Mr Moose
Member
What?Already back to that
Already back to that lame argument? Damn that was fast.
The title of the Xbox page says return of exclusives. If it's only on the Xbox store, sure, but it isn't. So it isn't exclusive. Their title is misleading.