WTF is happening with lazy ass devs... This is Tomb Raider 2013:
The fact that we can't expect better textures than a 13 years old game is crazy. 13 years before Tomb Raider 2013 and we had CS, Soldier of Fortune, Deus Ex etc... Now that was a big jump.
I don't understand.Wolverine tree vs. UC3:
man with that Uncharted3 trees you unlocked core memories. GenZ these days would not know how much i was in anticipation of the game after playing U1/U2 - lurking NaughtyDog forum each day for 3 month, completely lost my mind.Wolverine tree vs. UC3:
Clearly the wolverine tree is nowhere near the fidelity of uncharted, but I'm curious if it's such a poor quality tree because it's fully destructible?Wolverine tree vs. UC3:
To be fair, the trees are not even fair to compare. The Wolverine tree is supposed to look flat and old with no bark. It is a little low texture, but not worth this reaction to it. The massive yellow sand dunes in the demo, those looked far and away the least next-gen aspect of the trailer. Zero textures to be foundWolverine tree vs. UC3:
I think it still reads as next gen just cause of how long her hair is which is alot more complicated to simulate because of the massive increase in interacting surface area. It wasnt as good looking as i would hope but still quite impressive looking.
I also saw some hairs compenetration...sorry but i'm not impressed.
Maybe "impressed" isnt the right word but i do think it looks pretty cool.
Its looking really good durning cutscenes, gameplay tho is 60fps so something had to give, imho its still pretty impressive all things considered but for sure gta6 thats 30fps(maybe 40 on pr0?) looks so much better.
I mean it's worse that the same company put out some absolutely blinding looking games in RE:9, Pragmata and even DMCV still looks impeccable for a last gen title.WTF is happening with lazy ass devs... This is Tomb Raider 2013:
The fact that we can't expect better textures than a 13 years old game is crazy. 13 years before Tomb Raider 2013 and we had CS, Soldier of Fortune, Deus Ex etc... Now that was a big jump.
That wolverine shit made by same team who make those graphics above and both are linear not open world, no excuse to this bullshitWolverine is lacking volumetrics. Alan Wake 2 has baked lighting but uses post processing effects to give the game that next gen look. wolverine is too clean. the assets are too basic. ps3 quality at best. they are wasting their gpu on rt reflections which isnt even needed in a game like this. especially since they only apply them to mirror like objects.
ratchet inexplicably looks better. probably because assets look next gen. lighting is enhanced by volumetrics. its a shame because the leaked docs showed they had grand plans for their engine for this gsme buit sonys probably rushing them like they did with spiderman 2.
God of war Faye cutscenes and gameplay are identical on all things except camera positionIts looking really good durning cutscenes, gameplay tho is 60fps so something had to give, imho its still pretty impressive all things considered but for sure gta6 thats 30fps(maybe 40 on pr0?) looks so much better.
We got decent IQ and 60fps, so graphical fidelity had to be below 30fps games that have poor IQ, no way to avoid it unfortunately with closed platform which ps5 is.
They had to make game run decently/have ok IQ on base ps5(which is about 3,5x weaker from ur 4090 in raster, even worse if we add rt and ai upscaling) so things couldnt be helped unfortunately
What i totally agree and there is no excuses for are those horrible textures at times, insomaniac trully embraces their inner square/ff7remake here
There is no way they didnt have enough budget nor devtime for this game, given its such a popular IP, so no idea whats happening, 60fps target on base ps5 could directly impact cpu heavy settings(lvl of detail, pop in, complexity of npcs etc) and iq obviously but textures should be rocksolid across the board which isnt the case even in the gameplay trailer, who really knows how much worse they gonna look at times durning rest of the game
Saying all that im sure i will buy the game on my ps6 whenever it launches tho
Wolverine is lacking volumetrics. Alan Wake 2 has baked lighting but uses post processing effects to give the game that next gen look. wolverine is too clean. the assets are too basic. ps3 quality at best. they are wasting their gpu on rt reflections which isnt even needed in a game like this. especially since they only apply them to mirror like objects.
ratchet inexplicably looks better. probably because assets look next gen. lighting is enhanced by volumetrics. its a shame because the leaked docs showed they had grand plans for their engine for this gsme buit sonys probably rushing them like they did with spiderman 2.
Got 0 gripes with graphical fidelity of new gow here, art direction/protag/sidekick/dialogues- big time, but its offtopic here
Yes I truly don't know what they doing with spiderman 2 and Wolverine lol they looks generation behind ratchet
Hope we get another one someday. For some reason, I like this IP.
I mean even the RT reflections of Wolverine look ridiculous when compared with what CDPR achieved on CP77Wolverine is lacking volumetrics. Alan Wake 2 has baked lighting but uses post processing effects to give the game that next gen look. wolverine is too clean. the assets are too basic. ps3 quality at best. they are wasting their gpu on rt reflections which isnt even needed in a game like this. especially since they only apply them to mirror like objects.
ratchet inexplicably looks better. probably because assets look next gen. lighting is enhanced by volumetrics. its a shame because the leaked docs showed they had grand plans for their engine for this gsme buit sonys probably rushing them like they did with spiderman 2.
Don't know if king, but it has such a timeless, clean look and yeah amazing job simulating the bounce light and all that.Hair was clipping in that demo. It's still early build probably, I wonder if they will improve it in next showing.
Is Mirror's Edge still the king of baked lighting?
One of the first games to simulate GI and AO (no SSAO at all) and results are still impressive.
Totally agree with you. This is super depressing.
There is way too much deformation, self shadowing, light reactivity and visible noise for it to just be hair cards. Clipping can still happen with hairstrands too as that comes down to the physics. They seem to heavily constrain how far it can displace, but it certainly looks like hairstrands. Instead of individual strands moving independently, they are clumping them in small groups so they move together. Pros and cons to that approach, but it certainly helps with performance.
Pushing rainbows of color and adding some hair tech (possibly; I'll check my screenshots of Ragnarok at home later; vaguely remember Cif and Turd having similar hair) is very far from "really cranking things up visually".
Technically it looks about the same as Ragnarok. The difference is in the art direction.
Web pic while I'm at work:
Some improvements to cards, possibly switch to strands, add YouTube compression on top and you get Faye.
There is way too much deformation, self shadowing, light reactivity and visible noise for it to just be hair cards. Clipping can still happen with hairstrands too as that comes down to the physics. They seem to heavily constrain how far it can displace, but it certainly looks like hairstrands. Instead of individual strands moving independently, they are clumping them in small groups so they move together. Pros and cons to that approach, but it certainly helps with performance.
Notice lighting changes, self shadowing and response throughout and especially what happens after the jump when she is back on her feet. The only part that sticks out as a sore thumb is the canned jump animation itself. Could use some motion matching there to make it smooth:
Subtle movement of Individual hair strand "clumps" and fly away:
Significant deformation :
Has a lot of room to improve with noise and clipping though. Hopefully that can be addressed with polish.
Pragmata hair looks way cleaner with far less visual issues than GoW. But I find it a bit distracting with it having unrestricting motion and exaggerated bouncing and sliding all over the place. They did it better in RE Requiem for Grace imo, with shorter hair naturally making it more subtle. But i think overall, Rage in GTA6 and Frostbite have the best hair systems.
