I would have considered being the best from 2020 to now would have been preferable to this, and find this possibility of the Series X to have a big upgrade really small, but time will tell. COD, if exclusive, would have helped. But at it is they will need to wait more than a decade for that to happen. It will help anyway, just less IMHO. As for not doing the same game, they are the one to have a frontal match with Sony. They wanted to not be beat on price or performance, and made the S/ strategy to accomplish that. They wanted to have exclusives like Sony have, and got studios and publishers to do so. They will maybe even copy the Dualsense in the next few months/years. You want them to not allow their consumers to have the full power of their premium console for years just for Xbox to say to Sony that their current console is comparable to a PS5 Pro that have yet to be officialy announced.
No this will be very cheap for Sony here is nothing expensive or state of the art.In November 2024 bade digital PS5 will drop to 399 or 349. Digital Pro PS5 will be 499 not one cent more.for both of you want disc drive you can buy one for 100 .Sony makes on disc drives 90 win so even if they would sell a console for 50 loss they will make 50 win if someone buys disc drive.
I have tried to warn people to keep expectations in check
Raod to the PS5 2.0 featuring 10.5 GBps ssd. A second Super secret sauce IO block. 3D ears.
You're forgetting that they (and MS) had to raise hardware prices two years in to maintain profitability. The era of cheap parts is over not because of the parts themselves but because of currency devaluation. It will be expensive relative to past hardware but not to us because in a year 700 will still be far cheaper (relatively) than a 600 PS3 was 15 years ago.
Some games can benefit from Dual issue 60 vs 72CU
Some not
It's gonna be based how Sony devs will use it
Not if it's custom.
Mark Cerny did custom work on Zen2.
Which resembles Zen4c FPU.
No only that, like I said before, the PS5 Zen2 Cores looks like half Zen4c.
The similarities between the PS5 Zen2 Cores and Zen4c are too much to ignore. Assuming Mark Cerny can't do customizations to Zen4c or even Zen5c to make it run PS4/PS5 games doesn't make sense to me.
I mean, he re-engineered an AMD GPU compute unit, creating the Tempest Engine and made the PS5 IO Complex. Using Zen4c or Zen5c in the PS5 Pro is possible with him around.
In terms of performance, it doesn't matter what he says. It reported from Tom that the PS5 Pro will have a performance 8k mode.
To achieve that, we're going to need to get as much out of the console as possible, which means no bottlenecks.
True, but the L3 is twice that in current gen consoles,like Ryzen 6,000 mobile.
Ryzen 7040 mobile are Zen 4 e.g. 7840U's 8 cores has 16 MB L3 cache.
RDNA 2 has aging RT cores.*Sigh*
14 teraflops of RDNA 3 with dedicated RT intersect, traversal, and ML upscaling hardware is far more powerful than a 7700xt. Maybe if I use the DF example to translate RT performance to teraflops:
Using this method, you can roughly estimate PS5 Pro to be ~30 TF RDNA 2 with RT workload vs 10TF RDNA 2 for base PS5.
But I think it's a silly and convoluted way to look at it. I really thought we were over this TF stuff...
RTX 4090 is like 128 CU (512 TMUs) RDNA 3.5 beast.
You're a known Playstation hater so I don't know why you're here acting like you're impartial.
14tf + 4tf for the win to mimick the PS4 14CU + 4CU genius strategy. Cerny is going directly to the jugular.
Since the only consoles which use Nvidia hardware are Switch and Super Switch (future release), it's not super relevant to discussions of console gaming. Obviously if you are a PC gamer, your choices are Nvidia or nothing.
Not if it's custom.
Mark Cerny did custom work on Zen2.
Which resembles Zen4c FPU.
No only that, like I said before, the PS5 Zen2 Cores looks like half Zen4c.
The similarities between the PS5 Zen2 Cores and Zen4c are too much to ignore. Assuming Mark Cerny can't do customizations to Zen4c or even Zen5c to make it run PS4/PS5 games doesn't make sense to me.
I mean, he re-engineered an AMD GPU compute unit, creating the Tempest Engine and made the PS5 IO Complex. Using Zen4c or Zen5c in the PS5 Pro is possible with him around.
In terms of performance, it doesn't matter what he says. It reported from Tom that the PS5 Pro will have a performance 8k mode.
To achieve that, we're going to need to get as much out of the console as possible, which means no bottlenecks.
Not if it's custom.
Mark Cerny did custom work on Zen2.
Which resembles Zen4c FPU.
No only that, like I said before, the PS5 Zen2 Cores looks like half Zen4c.
The similarities between the PS5 Zen2 Cores and Zen4c are too much to ignore. Assuming Mark Cerny can't do customizations to Zen4c or even Zen5c to make it run PS4/PS5 games doesn't make sense to me.
I mean, he re-engineered an AMD GPU compute unit, creating the Tempest Engine and made the PS5 IO Complex. Using Zen4c or Zen5c in the PS5 Pro is possible with him around.
In terms of performance, it doesn't matter what he says. It reported from Tom that the PS5 Pro will have a performance 8k mode.
To achieve that, we're going to need to get as much out of the console as possible, which means no bottlenecks.
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Higher res 4sure, more frames yes but not 30 to 60fps jump, think of it more like, if gta6 dips to 25-26 in some fast driving sequences on base ps5, pr0 will be able to hold stable 30 no matter what.
Was it not Xenon ?
That's the name of its processor, if I'm not mistaken.
Both the cpu name and the Prototype name were Xenon and the gpu Xenos
40fps modes should be achievable though. Which would be better than nothing.
Cpu in ps5pr0 is supposed to be same zen2 just with bit higher clocks, if game gonna dip on base ps5 below 30, u wont get 40fps on pr0, again according to the leaks, who knows, maybe they are all wrong and we getting not 60 to 70% stronger gpu and 10-15% higher clocked same zen2 cpu but some bigger leap, but if not- manage ur expectaction xD
The assumption is your case is that the bottleneck is the cpu. This is highly dependent on the game.
Will still buy one, because 8 years is too damn long for same console hardware for me, but that sucks if it ends up being the case!
Nowadays with fsr2 and dynamic res, its relatively easy to avoid gpu bottleneck, will be even easier on ps5pr0 with next gen games, think of it like this, 30fps game, cpu and gpu heavy aka next gen only, and it has to run on hardware close to rx 7800xt/rx 4070 gpu wise, but cpu wise its similar/bit weaker from old trusty r7 3700x that even when it launched, mid 2019, wasnt fastest cpu around
