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Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?

  • Yes, will be approved without changes.

    Votes: 221 24.9%

  • Yes, will be approved but with structural changes to ABK.

    Votes: 102 11.5%

  • Yes, will be approved but only with behavioral concessions.

    Votes: 262 29.6%

  • No, will not be approved.

    Votes: 301 34.0%
  • Total voters
    886
  • Poll closed .
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C2brixx

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adamsapple said:
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So catty.
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Kilau

Kilau

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Three said:
When's lulu going to admit this just makes her a lot of cash in Activision stocks she owns. As if MS isn't an "entrenched" player in most tech industries including gaming. The FTC and CMA aren't the public's enemy no matter how much these big corps will lobby that argument.
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They way she talks about Sony, it's almost like Activision never intends to deal with them again. :pie_thinking:
 
Kilau

Kilau

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Bernardougf said:
Whatever the outcome is.. the aftermath of this whole circus is going to be pretty interesting... especially from Sony.. since I have a pretty good idea what MS is going to do
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No idea what Sony will do, don't care honestly but MS told us what they are going to do.
Three said:
Well, she might be a MS employee soon so she's doing her part.
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They will probably keep ABK separate like they have Zenimax.
 
StreetsofBeige

StreetsofBeige

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Three said:
When's lulu going to admit this just makes her a lot of cash in Activision shares she owns. As if MS isn't an "entrenched" player in most tech industries including gaming. The FTC and CMA aren't the public's enemy no matter how much these big corps will lobby that argument.
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A lot of people have made money on Activision. The shares are at $91 right now. Ive made money too. People have had over a year to make money on this since the stock had been dabbling in the $70s range for almost an entire year, only bumping up to the $80s lately. And now finally breaking $90.
 
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Three

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StreetsofBeige said:
A lot of people have made money on Activision. The shares are at $91 right now. Ive made money too. People have had over a year to make money on this since the stock had been dabbling in the $70s range for almost an entire year, only bumping up to the $80s lately. And now finally breaking $90.
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Good for those that did, but I'm pretty sure that's her main driver and not some concern about "entrenched" companies. Entrenched companies is exactly what the FTC are against and are trying to fight one of the biggest entrenched companies out there. As if she isn't in one too and gives a shit about the FTC's mandate. she probably owns a lot more shares than you or other individuals judging by the shared GHG figure, that's what she cares about.
 
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Chiggs

Chiggs

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Pipoqueiro said:
Why are they considering the FTC's defeat as a closed deal? Someone explain to me since I didn't follow anymore?
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Because the CMA were a bunch of tag-a-longs to the FTC, and now that the FTC's case is basically dead in the water, the CMA looks increasingly dumb for opposing the deal...not because Microsoft deserves to buy anything it wants, but because the CMA went along with the FTC and is now left twisting in the wind with flimsy reasoning...even though the deal has been approved by most regulatory agencies around the globe.

Please don't interpret any of this as pro-MS, either. I have no delusions about this deal; it's commentary on the state of the FTC and CMA.
 
StreetsofBeige

StreetsofBeige

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93xfan said:
If I was MS, I’d leverage these games a ton while drawing people over to Gamepass.

Sony wants the next Diablo? What will they give in return? Even having them loosen Sony’s grip on 3rd party exclusives would be great. FF7 remake and Silent Hill 2, for example
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For me, I'd just keep selling Activision games on PS as normal, but delay them 3 to 6 months. But also sell and Game Pass all the Activision games on Xbox and PC like their other first party games.

You'll get some PS gamers transitioning over (the hardcore COD gamers on PS who cant wait), but you'll also get sales from all the PS gamers who dont care and will wait 3-6 months.

Best of all worlds. Cutting off PS sales completely is a risky chop since only so many will transition over.
 
James Sawyer Ford

James Sawyer Ford

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StreetsofBeige said:
For me, I'd just keep selling Activision games on PS as normal, but delay them 3 to 6 months. But also sell and Game Pass all the Activision games on Xbox and PC like their other first party games.

You'll get some PS gamers transitioning over (the hardcore COD gamers on PS who cant wait), but you'll also get sales from all the PS gamers who dont care and will wait 3-6 months.

Best of all worlds. Cutting off PS sales completely is a risky chop since only so many will transition over.
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So the goal being to lose a shit load of money with this strategy?

The regulators said this wasn’t realistic
 
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StreetsofBeige

StreetsofBeige

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ManaByte said:
The lifetime of a COD game is 12 months. Delaying it six months on a platform is suicide.
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People play older COD games all the time. And for the PS platform, whether its delayed 1 month, 3 or 6 doesn't matter (I just tossed out a 3-6 month range as a suggestion). They are playing what they got on their platform and it'll be the norm for that user base.

And even if the game does bad because it has a staggered release, then they'll transition more to Xbox or PC and get it day one.
 
StreetsofBeige

StreetsofBeige

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Three said:
How? The crossover is less than 20%, it's just even lower when it comes to xbox owners. I doubt the 50% are going to be happy buying COD on Switch instead.
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If COD has the pull it does (which everyone seems to think it's the behemoth franchise), then people will switch to another platform. No different than PS4/Xbox One. 360/PS3 were close in sales. PS4 took off due to having better performing games where it outsold One by over 2:1 margin. And lots of those gamers were Xbox gamers. So if COD has enough pull, then you'll get are PS gamers going Xbox/PC for COD.
 
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Three

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StreetsofBeige said:
If COD has the pull it does (which everyone seems to think it's the behemoth franchise), then people will switch to another platform. No different than PS4/Xbox One. 360/PS3 were close in sales. PS4 took off due to having better performing games where it outsold One by over 2:1 margin. And lots of those gamers were Xbox gamers. So if COD has enough pull, then you'll get are PS gamers going Xbox/PC for COD.
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Sure, but Arthands was trying to say it doesn't affect people because they'll just buy the game on another system they own. 80% of people don't own them, 50% own a switch but I doubt most would be happy to go from a PS5 to a Switch for playing CoD.
 
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BiohazardX95

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StreetsofBeige said:
If COD has the pull it does (which everyone seems to think it's the behemoth franchise), then people will switch to another platform. No different than PS4/Xbox One. 360/PS3 were close in sales. PS4 took off due to having better performing games where it outsold One by over 2:1 margin. And lots of those gamers were Xbox gamers. So if COD has enough pull, then you'll get are PS gamers going Xbox/PC for COD.
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PC and Playstation Best combo no need for an Xbox lol (just joking)
 
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best

thicc_girls_are_teh_best

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Bernardougf said:
Whatever the outcome is.. the aftermath of this whole circus is going to be pretty interesting... especially from Sony.. since I have a pretty good idea what MS is going to do
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They (Sony) better get ready to announce another showcase at the very least.

And on a more serious note, start locking down a couple of close 3P publishers (and developers) and pumping investments & share purchases into many of the other big and middle-sized 3P pubs on the market.

Just "staying the path" isn't going to be enough to ward off Microsoft's publicly leaked endgame, or other big tech companies likely eying a few publishers of their own and capable of similar foreclosure strategies of some or all content.

93xfan said:
If I was MS, I’d leverage these games a ton while drawing people over to Gamepass.

Sony wants the next Diablo? What will they give in return? Even having them loosen Sony’s grip on 3rd party exclusives would be great. FF7 remake and Silent Hill 2, for example
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And yet I don't see you asking Microsoft to loosen their grip on 3P exclusives. Echo Generation, Ravenlok, The Gunk, Space Jam, STALKER 2, Ark 2, etc.

Basically you're saying Sony's not allowed to have any exclusives unless they're 1P, which is dumb. Especially when ignoring the 3P exclusives Microsoft have (timed and full). It's a double standard.
 
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Ginzeen

Ginzeen

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Bernardougf said:
Whatever the outcome is.. the aftermath of this whole circus is going to be pretty interesting... especially from Sony.. since I have a pretty good idea what MS is going to do
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This is pretty much a done deal based on everything that was said today. Barring something very unexpected, this is done. The chance of this deal failing is probably at the same odds the FTC needed to get their emergency stay at the 9th circuit.
 
StreetsofBeige

StreetsofBeige

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93xfan said:
If I was MS, I’d leverage these games a ton while drawing people over to Gamepass.

Sony wants the next Diablo? What will they give in return? Even having them loosen Sony’s grip on 3rd party exclusives would be great. FF7 remake and Silent Hill 2, for example
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Sony will bend.

You can tell they'll wheel and deal when push comes to shove since the MLB supposedly told them if you dont make Xbox and Switch baseball games you lose the license (at least that's the common theory thrown around).

Sony has made MLB The Show on Xbox 3 years in a row.
 
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