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[GHG]

The existence of UNP only compatible clothes.

Your characters have clothes?

 

[PaintTinJr]

Yeah this is definitely the same nonsense from the ABK thread.

Luckily there’s a disc in the standard edition so no need for legal action there.

Well that's good news, it really shouldn't be this complicated to know if a game is getting delivered by the de facto smart delivery method too

 

[Solidus_T]

How long until a boxed game is just a code for gamepass?

 

[Disco Dave]

 

[Fredrik]

Seems to be a practice now, some of the latest collector's edition don't have a disc, the game is a digital code

But why? Makes no sense. If I’m paying a lot I don’t want to see some cheap ass publisher trying to save a few bucks by skipping the disc.

I’m on Steam here though so nothing affects me personally.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Single player only games need a disc option.

 

[MasterCornholio]

No 2nd hand sales? I can't think of anything else to be honest.

 

[Warablo]

I think more collectors edition should do this, maybe they could include like a non playable disc display as an extra.

I wouldn't want a disc because I am all digital.

 

[cireza]

so revisionists can't say the Last Guardian didn't ship with a 60fps mode for instance.

Imagine this happening. It would be absolutely terrible for humankind.

 

[adamsapple]

FYI since the tweet this topic is for has been deleted, this is the latest 'official' communication from any Bethesda support about the disc thing.

Bethesda ES mentioned a disc as early as June 13th.

 

[Ozriel]

Well, it seems now it just game codes in a shiny box.

I see. So one case that just came to light today, and remains unconfirmed at the moment is what you expect the media and consumers to have reacted to?

Well it has been 10 years...

...and Phil's hammered down his "nice guy/one of us/gamer" sales persona pitch. Something Mattrick didn't do because he actually cared about substantive results and being a regular businessman (in spite of his failure).

Lol, so you knew the Standard edition was going to ship with a physical disc and you still put up this paragraph attacking Spencer for taking discs away?

 

[Roxkis_ii]

I imagined most people playing this via gamepass on console, but I didn't consider people with shobby or metered internet connections.

 

[adamsapple]

French retailer says there will be a disc.

As always with him, no information verification and a lot of toxicity on the background of Console Wars. Starfield is not listed as CIAB by our vendors. There will therefore be a CD until proven otherwise

 

[Twinblade]

So what's the point in selling collector editions or physical copies of the game when you can't actually have a physical game disc? Dumb. Now in my defense, i was gonna play it aka gamepass anyways. Saves me $70.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

This didn't surprise me at all. I figured the game is going to be way too big to fit on one disc so either just a portion of the game would be on disc or it would be a complete download.

 

[Silent Viper]

Is Microsoft really your fucking savior? What a fucking shit decision.

If you dont have access to Internet in 2023 then you should not play games.

Deal with it and stop crying you entitled gamer.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

The future is digital, with no way to trade, give away or sell your games. And they are not really yours either.

Well as far as the game is not being yours, you could always support drm-free platforms like GOG. But it seems nobody wants to and rather support Steam even if the same game is on both platforms.

With GOG you can at least back up your game on physical media and keep it.

 

[Putonahappyface]

Only standard version will have a physical disc

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Tweet was deleted. Hopefully a mistake

Tweet has now been deleted. Somebody making up bullshit?

Doubtfully.

The game is probably too big to fit on one disc. So you may get a disc but you're still going to have to download a large chunk of the game.

Because I seriously, seriously doubt they are going to release this game as multiple discs in a package.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

I'm just surprised people have the energy to make the same posts every time an end to physical is mentioned.

At this moment in time, given the number of day one patches, online integration, acceptance of terms and conditions that goes on, I'm not sure that this represents any extra corporate control, aside from not being able to trade it.

But, this is also said every time, so having triggered the irony meter, I'm off!

Yeah does anyone REALLY want to play a Bethesda game without patches?

 

[adamsapple]

Yeah does anyone REALLY want to play a Bethesda game without patches?

Let's have a coupe of folk play Skyrim PS3's version 1.0 for a few hours and see how that experience holds up.

 

[Topher]

I'm just surprised people have the energy to make the same posts every time an end to physical is mentioned.

At this moment in time, given the number of day one patches, online integration, acceptance of terms and conditions that goes on, I'm not sure that this represents any extra corporate control, aside from not being able to trade it.

But, this is also said every time, so having triggered the irony meter, I'm off!

Taking away the ability to sell/trade is the crux of corporate control. Dismissing that as an "aside" is also ironic.

Let's have a coupe of folk play Skyrim PS3's version 1.0 for a few hours and see how that experience holds up.

Why would anyone have to do that?

 

[Krathoon]

OH. The game is on Gamepass? Well, shit. I will just play it on that for a while. I may get it through Microsoft then.

I am always lerry about the Microsoft Store. They don't have the best track record for long term support like Steam.

Microsoft has this bad habit of abandoning things like the Kinect. That still annoys me.

 

[adamsapple]

Why would anyone have to do that?

Thought experiment.

-

It was in reply to the post about playing an un-patched Bethesda game.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Oh hell naw.

 

[Krathoon]

Still, Microsoft still supports the 360. I will have to fire it up.

One thing I noticed is that it did not download all my games licenses when I imported a hard drive to one.

 

[Badlucktroll]

 

[DeepEnigma]

Thought experiment.

So they'll want to extinguish their perceived rivals after, our of pure frustration I would wager?

 

[01011001]

FALSE ALARM, only the special mega edition with the watch n shit will have no disc.

the normal version will have a disc

 

[StereoVsn]

Good.

Digital is the future. Physical games have felt archaic for two generations now (especially Xbox and PS games).

I feel like many complaining here have no problem buying games on steam. And plan on buying starfield on steam rather than Xbox, lmao.

Again, there is a lot of competition with Steam key sellers. Not so much for MS digital games. And that goes with Steam version

i mean MS uses 50GB discs so even if it comes with one it wont run, its likely a 75GB odd download on top

so a disc is kinda pointless

Again as been said many times in the thread, with disk present, even if it has 10mb only on it, you could resell or buy used.

This move prevents that and is clearly targeting reselling and used market.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Kill phyiscal already. Kill it good.

 

[01011001]

i mean MS uses 50GB discs so even if it comes with one it wont run, its likely a 75GB odd download on top

so a disc is kinda pointless

they could switch to UHD Discs any time they want. it's weird that they haven't yet

 

[Boaty McBoatface]

So they're just making plastic for no reason? Why not just sell paper codes like xbox live vouchers if they're that worried about being in retail.

 

[StereoVsn]

I'm buying it on Steam. Primarily because of the mods like GHG mentioned.

What's annoying is that MS line EA, CDPR and Ubi don't allow 3rd party Steam keys with their titles. So you wind up laying higher price (as intended I am sure).

I am still going to get it on Steam, but will wait for some patches and some mods to come out and will grab it during Thanksgiving sale or something.

 

[adamsapple]

they could switch to UHD Discs any time they want. it's weird that they haven't yet

The discs need to work on XBO / One X as well, those don't support 100GB UHDs.

 

[01011001]

The discs need to work on XBO / One X as well, those don't support 100GB UHDs.

ah yes... the Xbox One game Starfield...

 

[LavitzSlambert]

I could see this being the case for the PC version but I’d have to think the Xbox release will come with a disk. I’d also question why even bother with a boxed PC version nowadays but I do prefer physical in all forms, except when I can game share with my wife without having to buy two copies. Since couch coop went out of favor that has been the one saving grace of digital.

 

[StereoVsn]

You want Starfield CBBE and Schlongs of Starfield, admit it

That will be out in like 2 weeks or less, lol.

 

[Topher]

What's annoying is that MS line EA, CDPR and Ubi don't allow 3rd party Steam keys with their titles. So you wind up laying higher price (as intended I am sure).

I am still going to get it on Steam, but will wait for some patches and some mods to come out and will grab it during Thanksgiving sale or something.

I'm planning on buying the game from green man. Is that different than what you are talking about?

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[adamsapple]

ah yes... the Xbox One game Starfield...

Just in general lol.

I think Jedi Survivor might use a UHD cause it installs far above 50GB via disc and downloads the rest. I think it's in the range of 67 ~ GB that's copied from disc.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

FALSE ALARM, only the special mega edition with the watch n shit will have no disc.

the normal version will have a disc

I still think the entire game is not going to be on disc and it's going to require a download. The game is probably going to be too large to put on a single disc. So, you'll get a disc alright but it won't have the complete game on it.

 

[simpatico]

Nooooo! Not my barely playable unpatched discerinos! What will I ever theoretically do! Despite being extremely online to the point I post on enthusiast gaming forums, having a physical copy of games for times I don't have internet service (which is never) is of the utmost importance!

 

[01011001]

I still think the entire game is not going to be on disc and it's going to require a download. The game is probably going to be too large to put on a single disc. So, you'll get a disc alright but it won't have the complete game on it.

reselling is one big part of why some buy physical.
also it's just healthy for price development to have a normal retail version.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Nooooo! Not my barely playable unpatched discerinos! What will I ever theoretically do! Despite being extremely online to the point I post on enthusiast gaming forums, having a physical copy of games for times I don't have internet service (which is never) is of the utmost importance!

Yep. Assuming the entire game will fit on one disc which is extremely doubtful, it's going to be so buggy that it's going to require multiple patches. The disc is going to be nothing but a coaster.

 

[01011001]

Just in general lol.

I think Jedi Survivor might use a UHD cause it installs far above 50GB via disc and downloads the rest. I think it's in the range of 67 ~ GB that's copied from disc.

that was a concession made for the crossgen period, but now it has no purpose anymore.

so it should be the perfect timing to switch to UHDs now

 

[Darkmakaimura]

reselling is one big part of why some buy physical.
also it's just healthy for price development to have a normal retail version.

Maybe but as a collector myself I would not want a disc where only half the game is on it. And also like somebody said above, the game's going to require so many patches that even if the entire game were on disc, which is extremely unlikely, it's going to be a buggy mess and you're going to need some serious internet access.

But I hear you. Some people are just going to want it for the disk itself I guess.

 

[West Texas CEO]

Starfield doesn't need a disc, tbh.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

What I was saying is that I think it's good that less plastic is being used to make something.

You said "perhaps it should just be more recyclable"

I said that's not the same as not making the thing, and used "net zero" to explain that, I didn't mean to conjur up climate change policies.

My apologies then; the thread I had seen elsewhere in the thread with people defending the initial news was that it was "good for the environment", so I took your comment to be in the same line of thought.

But it seems you aren't the "plastic is bad, kills the environment" crowd, just happy if there's less plastic needing to be used to make the same thing as before. I think that's reasonable.

Funny to read that so many people actually desire to be fucked over by corporations. And here I was thinking they were just delusional.

Never underestimate the audience of corporate cucks.

Seeing this jackas get fired was one of the best aftermaths of the XBO DRM fiasco arc.

Lol, so you knew the Standard edition was going to ship with a physical disc and you still put up this paragraph attacking Spencer for taking discs away?

When the discs are just plastic DRM activation codes, yeah, he can still take some of that blame. Any point over the past nine years he could've tried putting in a pitch to change that. But he didn't care.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Seeing this jackas get fired was one of the best aftermaths of the XBO DRM fiasco arc.

This guy is actually the reason I joined Twitter pretty much. I just wanted to watch this guy get owned so badly.

 

[Draugoth]

FALSE ALARM, only the special mega edition with the watch n shit will have no disc.

the normal version will have a disc

Just like the Diablo IV Collector's Edition.

That's so dumb lolol