Coloress_Kafka
Member
$70 goddamn dollars and you don’t even get the OPTION to run the game at a higher framerate. What a trash developer.
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Starfield is 4K/30 on Series X, 1440/30 on Series S
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64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
its a win win situation for PC players
Game is trash, we've got mods to fix it
Game is good, we've got mods to extend the longevity of it.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Honestly the biggest seller for me is the third person mode, I like FP for FPS games but RPGs feel more immersive when you can see whoever you're piloting. Plus the animations look really good, so I'm happy
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
he's right though. all the fun stuff is on PC. Xbox owners will simply just get a scuffed version of the game that won't be as good as it could be due to the lack of mods.
Beastclaw Raider
Banned
Exactly, skyrim without mods? No thanks.
ManaByte
Member
Skyrim on Xbox supported mods.
bender
What time is it?
R6Rider
Gold Member
I never said it wasn't improved. Not sure why it keeps being brought up.Same area.
There is a definitive improvement.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
As does Fallout 4.
Balducci30
Member
Obvious. But I wish I had a good pc - hey when I do a full pc upgrade it’ll have a bunch of mods so that’ll be good
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
Best and most useful mods are not even possible on consoles due to script extenders and other community tools.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
warpdrive at 6:18
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Recent games give me bo faith in a 3080 Ti.
I have some faith in my 7800X3D and 4090
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
FSR won't be helpful if CPU is the bottleneck. And looking at the scope of the things they showed, that's probably it.
If it were GPU, they wouldn't be citing 4K.
itsjustJEFF
Member
Todd Howard... he's like "nah bitch, this is how I want you to experience the game... trust me, it just works" lol
Kacho
Member
Yep. It's the only way to enjoy this to the fullest.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
honestly if there's no uncapped version on Series X the game's more likely limited by CPU than GPU if anything. I can see it too considering how much stuff is calculated and how much content there is, it definitely extends beyond just graphics and resolution
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SeraphJan
Member
Its Bethesda game, PC is the definitive platform for their game. I'm also looking forwards to mods
solidus12
Member
Balducci30
Member
No? He said here it goes over sixty a lot but is not stable. He’s pretty much always hinted it was going for 30
BrutalTruth_
Banned
I don't mind since I've played every major Bethesda game on consoles first previously
arkhamguy123
Member
Excellent. Anyone in here crying can buy a high end PC.
Bring on my locked 30FPS 4K next Gen experience on my high end TV.
Bring on my locked 30FPS 4K next Gen experience on my high end TV.
93xfan
Banned
Worked fine in Destiny 1
Also, iD helped with the shooting mechanics.
If this was a Titanfall campaign or was PvP, then I’d be much more concerned.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Fsr didn’t help Star Wars did it. It still dropped below 900p and dropped the framerate to low 20s.
This is a cpu bottleneck, not a gpu one seeing as how they are hitting 4k with it. The only thing you can do is optimize the engine and hope you can multi threaded the codebase but i believe a programmer recently explained to DF that most games need that one thread to handle everything. Multi threading those game tasks isn’t possible for various reasons but mostly because they all need to run sequentially.
Spider-Man on PC can literally double its framerate if you replace a mid range ryen 3600 that’s equivalent to console cpus with a 6 ghz top of the line 12900k. Because of that higher single threaded cliock speed.
Neo_game
Member
IMO they lack top programmers. Their games are know for bugs, inconsistent fps, gfx wise as well they are not the best. Redfall though made by different team was also 4K 30fps and everyone said it is CPU bound but I have seen some videos of the game running well over 60fps on R5 3600 CPU. So that means it has more to do with optimization than anything else. Moreover if they wanted fidelity why did they even though about targetting 4K in the first place ? Also admitting that fps can go upto 60fps ? It is clearly an optimization issue.
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A Most Virtuous Cat
Banned
This is awful news, was prolly gonna buy a series x for this game. Guess will have to wait for the midgen upgrade.
And all the people defending this and saying just play on a PC, you guys are why Xbox is in the sad condition it is today. You never hold them to any criteria. À 30 fps game without any 60ps option is downright criminal in 2023.
And all the people defending this and saying just play on a PC, you guys are why Xbox is in the sad condition it is today. You never hold them to any criteria. À 30 fps game without any 60ps option is downright criminal in 2023.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
Horizon doesn't even have a real time lighting system.
Torrent of Pork
Banned
I'm not going to lie, and say it isn't a little disappointing, but I'm still going to play the everloving shit out of it.
DaleinCalgary
Member
Looks? We haven’t seen shit
Nydius
Member
Sigh. Not unexpected but still...
Really feeling kinda ripped off in my decision to buy a quality PC monitor for my game consoles if we're rushing headlong into a future where 30fps is still the norm. I mean, it'll be great when/if I decide to build a PC again but right now its capabilities are being wasted by both my XSX and PS5.
Really feeling kinda ripped off in my decision to buy a quality PC monitor for my game consoles if we're rushing headlong into a future where 30fps is still the norm. I mean, it'll be great when/if I decide to build a PC again but right now its capabilities are being wasted by both my XSX and PS5.
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
Oof! 30fps in 2023 isn't a good look.
I'm lucky I own a gaming PC and don't need to deal with this. I can't imagine playing a game like this at 30fps.
I'm lucky I own a gaming PC and don't need to deal with this. I can't imagine playing a game like this at 30fps.
ShaquilleOatmeal
Member
They really wanted us to think these consoles would handle 60fps, no problem.
Morrie’s wig shop
Member
I’m sure down the road it’s gonna get a patch. 1080p or 1440p!
Shit, there could be a mod within the first week. If mods kick off the same time as release?
Kacho
Member
The mods for this game are going to be INSANE. I can’t wait to see what they cook up.
I always build a new PC for the lastest and greatest Todd Howard epic. I’m ready to go AND I have an ultrawide monitor now so I’m extra excited haha
Gambit2483
Member
True, but MS has, up to this point, touted Series X as "The World's Most Powerful Console" and that every 1st party game would have a 60fps mode.
Seems Bethesda has now completely bucked that vision/trend/promise
Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
This console gen is fucking trash.
I really need to just get a beast PC and be done with it. Fuck's sake.
I really need to just get a beast PC and be done with it. Fuck's sake.
Stuart360
Member
A lot of people on here have been saying more and more 30fps games will come as this gen goes on. In fact imo there will be a ton of them once UE5 games start coming.
The fact that cross gen has been so prevelant so far this gen is the main reason why we have had so many 60fps games.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
The Witcher 3 pushed me to do that last gen.