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Sony Wants To Grow PlayStation By Making Xbox Smaller, Phil Spencer Says

N30RYU

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literally

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in every meaning
 
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Funny how my thread ( quoted from PSU) about the opposite of this thread ( xbox trying to make playstation smaller) getting removed for console warring
Well, the more mods change the more they do the same.

Phil is great and just want everyone to play
Gamepass is the savior of gaming
Without Xbox we would not have online multiplayer on consoles
The series S is amazing
 
That's a very stupid take. Xbox started later in gaming with a small marketshare and has been doing anything they can to make themselves bigger ever since.
 

yurinka

Member
I stopped reading at " they're happy with what they all ready have".

That's total bullshit! You know damn well if they could afford to purchase entire publishers, needed or no, theyd do it in a heartbeat! Keep that shit 100%, my dude! No need for bullshit.
They have money to buy publishers and don't buy them. They have money to buy publishers like Square Enix, Capcom, Sega, Ubisoft, Konami, etc. What they can't buy is a publisher of the size of ABK, EA or Take 2.

When Sony or Nintendo acquired basically were way smaller companies: dev or support studios who already had a long tradition of working for them almost exclusively.

Only Bungie had a higher profile (but still like 20x smaller than ABK), but Sony mentioned they'll keep all their current and future games exclusive and that the acquisition had to do with their expertise, knowledge and data on types of game where Sony didn't excel (GaaS etc).
 
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Snake29

RSI Employee of the Year
Well, the more mods change the more they do the same.

Phil is great and just want everyone to play
Gamepass is the savior of gaming
Without Xbox we would not have online multiplayer on consoles
The series S is amazing

That's funny because PS2 online Japan was before Xbox Live. Me myself was even part of the first early alpha test and beta test in Europe.
 
That's funny because PS2 online Japan was before Xbox Live. Me myself was even part of the first early alpha test and beta test in Europe.
The Dreamcast had actual internet online before the ps2 even shipped 😂

The things people say about this are insane.

I grant them the trophies, MS probably invented trophies for games (not that I care).
 

Corndog

Banned
Explain why governments don't allow companies to absorb as many smaller other companies as possible to kill off competition and to become more and more powerful?

There's many reasons, some obvious, others less so, but a lot should be common sense. One extreme is the company basically gains more power than the government itself.

Think of the game where everyone starts as small dots. The bigger dots move around and can eat any smaller dots and thus become bigger. Then they can eat any other smaller dots. Eventually, you are left with one huge dot that has absorbed everyone and e everything.

The end result?

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Your talking to the wrong person
 

yurinka

Member
I stopped reading at " they're happy with what they all ready have".

That's total bullshit! You know damn well if they could afford to purchase entire publishers, needed or no, theyd do it in a heartbeat! Keep that shit 100%, my dude! No need for bullshit.
They have money to buy publishers and don't buy them. They have money to buy publishers like Square Enix, Capcom, Sega, Ubisoft, Konami, etc. What they can't buy is a publisher of the size of ABK, EA or Take 2.

When Sony or Nintendo acquired basically were way smaller companies: dev or support studios who already had a long tradition of working for them almost exclusively.

Only Bungie had a higher profile, but Sony mentioned they'll keep all their current and future games exclusive, and that the acquisition was more to learn about other type of games.
 
Nintendo didn't play nice with Sony, which is why PlayStation exists.

Sony wanted Nintendo to make games for the joint console, not just 100% Nintendo platforms and Nintendo refused and went on to make the CD-i. My point is the partnership failed, they got as far as building the consoles and fell apart. Both Sony and Nintendo want to point fingers. All the players in the industry have created, bought, sold and closed various studios, indies and/or publishers. It's pretty poor form from Sony currently when you look at them fucking up a partnership with Nintendo, making their own console and killing Sega as a hardware platform, who removes competition exactly? One could even argue Sony tainted Nintendo to shy away from big industry partnerships thus hurting competition e.g. Ninty refuse Xbox now because of the bad taste from Sony back in the day.
 
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ANDS

King of Gaslighting
Imagine saying “overstated” about CoD, when the recent one just crushed all time records in sales, and produced over $1billion in revenue in mere days.

Imagine actually reading what someone wrote instead of imputing what they wrote. Nothing I said had anything to do with how much money COD makes. This is all about stopping players from leaving one platform (and one subscription service) over another. Period. It obviously has nothing to do with stagnation of video game development, which is what each company is arguing in their favor one way or another.

. . .or should be obvious.
 

Fabieter

Member
Sony wanted Nintendo to make games for the joint console, not just 100% Nintendo platforms and Nintendo refused and went on to make the CD-i. My point is the partnership failed, they got as far as building the consoles and fell apart. Both Sony and Nintendo want to point fingers. All the players in the industry have created, bought, sold and closed various studios, indies and/or publishers. It's pretty poor form from Sony currently when you look at them fucking up a partnership with Nintendo, making their own console and killing Sega as a hardware platform, who removes competition exactly?

Dude Sega killed themselve. You ca t just rewrite history just like that.
 
Dude Sega killed themselve. You ca t just rewrite history just like that.

Sure thing, of course Sega, #2 at the time, would have exited the console industry on their own had Sony not partnered with Nintendo then released high selling console after console repeatedly with a strong first party library.

/S
 
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This is what a significant lack of first party games does to you:



Someone please check on him.

I wonder how these people are briefed in the back, everything they say sounds pretty agressive.

I have never seen anything like that in gaming, not even close. I mean, MS goes around an try to buy "dominance" in console gaming, that has nothing to do with building something.
 

Fabieter

Member
Sure thing, of course Sega would have exited the console industry on their own had Sony not partnered with Nintendo then released a high selling console after console repeatedly with a strong first party library.

/S

Ms entered the console business before Sega went out of business. Are a
They all to blame but Sega? Come on now.
 
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My entered the console business before Sega went out of business. Are a
They all to blame but Sega? Come on now.

XBOX WAS NOT EVEN IN THE BUSINESS WHEN SEGA WAS!

MS/Xbox entered the market in NOV 2001.

Sony/Playstation entered the market DEC 1994, 7 years before Xbox.

Sega exited the console business in 2001.


GAF sucks at gaming facts. Would you like to see it visually instead?

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Imagine actually reading what someone wrote instead of imputing what they wrote. Nothing I said had anything to do with how much money COD makes. This is all about stopping players from leaving one platform (and one subscription service) over another. Period. It obviously has nothing to do with stagnation of video game development, which is what each company is arguing in their favor one way or another.

. . .or should be obvious.
All Sony did is release the PS1 at the right price and specs. Then they killed some of the buzz for the Dreamcast by announcing the PS2 pretty early (a lot of people decided to just wait it out)...

On the other hand the Saturn wasn't that great at 3D, made development work more complex than it needed to be, was expensive, had mostly poor launch titles (but Panzer Dragoon) and Sega themselves were too busy with the infighting to properly develop the true potential of the machine (it could have done well, like in Japan). Sega would have been more viable when the time came to ship their next-gen machine.

On the other side the PSX launched with impressive games for the time, was not as expensive, so on and so forth.

Sony did not steal anything, it's not like they went out and bought the equivalent of EA/Activision back then.
 

Fabieter

Member
XBOX WAS NOT EVEN IN THE BUSINESS WHEN SEGA WAS!

MS/Xbox entered the market in NOV 2001.

Sony/Playstation entered the market DEC 1994, 7 years before Xbox.

Sega exited the console business in 2001.


GAF sucks at gaming facts. Would you like to see it visually instead?

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Oh you are right. Maybe the announcement of the original xbox pushed Sega to the decision to discontinue the dreamcast. Either way my point was no one but Sega is to be blammed.
 
Oh you are right. Maybe the announcement of the original xbox pushed Sega to the decision to discontinue the dreamcast. Either way my point was no one but Sega is to be blammed.
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Jokes aside, do you see the length of the console bars in that chart? SNES was huge, Sony wanted in, Ninty/Sony failed and Sony brought in PS1 & 2. A new duopoly was created between Ninty and Sony with the demise of Sega. Later after that was done, behind the scenes MS was creating Xbox, released it NOV 2011 and broke the duopoly of the console market. In court one could historically and factually accurate argue Xbox increased competition in the market while Sony/Ninty shrunk competition. I think you'll find it's a pretty repetitive playbook in business but especially highlighted and a more extreme case looking at Sony of this time we're talking about. It's not a good look in court to now point the finger at the poster child gaming company that entered an existing dominated market and created a sustained third industry heavy weight competitor while an overwhelming majority of the rest of the industry give their thumbs up for the ActiBliz deal. Read that again.

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This court case is a fucking joke. If you want a direct comparison I don't see Sony selling their first party games on Nintendo's console back then, now MS actually does this and Sony complain? Laughable. The FTC are factually going to get hit pretty hard by the market, MS/Xbox don't have to do shit. The onus is on the FTC for the block, not MS for the buyout.
 
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