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nush
Gold Member
I agree, but, you know where the fuse was lit.
funkygunther
Banned
No politics, only blaming a government that hasn't been in power for 12 years and lockdowns and furloughs (NPC talking points, like "undercover commies" btw)) that more countries than UK went through.
Also "anti semetics" bonus points.
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jm89
Member
I don't like the price increase, but the truth is sony upped the price at the right time.
Xbox not raising the price and saying they won't isn't really having any significant positive impact, ps5s are still selling out with expensive bundles in the uk whilst standalone xbox series x are always in stock.
Ms can obviously eat the cost but is it really worth it? If we go by the uk market nope.
Xbox not raising the price and saying they won't isn't really having any significant positive impact, ps5s are still selling out with expensive bundles in the uk whilst standalone xbox series x are always in stock.
Ms can obviously eat the cost but is it really worth it? If we go by the uk market nope.
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funkygunther
Banned
UK imports 50% of its gas but its mostly from Norway. UK problem is it does not have much gas storage, which means it buys as it consumes and as prices in gas fluctuates due to the international market the UK is harder hit with its pay-as-you-go for gas practice.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
There it is, GAF’s perfect excuse when PS5 isn’t the top seller in the UK for many sales threads to come.
The current economic climate is a bitch. Set your priorities straight, gaming isn’t anywhere near the top
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GHG
Gold Member
What?
The only way you could have got that "information" (and hence the confusion) is if you aren't getting your news from reliable and credible sources.
TheDreadLord
Member
This is kinda untrue. Energy prices are going up because the green energy isn’t delivering as expected and gas/oil/coal is an international commodity market so it is affected by externals. I also read somewhere that the UK is about to aprove some sort of tax levy which won’t help the economy in the medium long term (so there is some speculation going on as well).
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Skifi28
Gold Member
No politics, but let me tell you about politics.
funkygunther
Banned
The UK is doing the opposite of a levy, it's cutting taxes and the markets don't like that either. If you meant national insurance raises, that's been scrapped alongside the tax cuts.
Team Andromeda
Member
What is the value of the Euro against the Dollar? What the value of the Yen against the Dollar? Don't tell us that's all because of Brexit
The Euro has tanked, but lets blame Boris ...
buenoblue
Member
Yeah exactly. I was buying like a game a month a year ago. Now I'm just using gamepass and playing my backlog.
Tams
Member
Loss of confidence in the government as the markets think their economic plan is utterly bonkers.
Shan't going into any more detail due to the rules here, but it's not good. Not good at all.
Team Andromeda
Member
Agreed and Net Zero. The Yen dropped and the Euro is now below parity against the Dollar that's hardly brexit.
Some of us remember even MS increasing the cost of the 360 in the UK in 2009 due to the exchange rate, some will no doubt say that was Brexit too.
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Exactly. The thread is littered with examples of that all coming from left leaning socialists.
GHG
Gold Member
People blaming brexit and failure to transition to green energy...
How does this happen when you're already on the Internet and can find the necessary relevant information prior to (or instead of - that would be preferable in this situation in all honesty) posting? We really are fucked aren't we?
How does this happen when you're already on the Internet and can find the necessary relevant information prior to (or instead of - that would be preferable in this situation in all honesty) posting? We really are fucked aren't we?
EdGalTBR
Banned
The Euro is also falling.
Don't have to be a socialist to think that increasing debt whilst cutting tax on people earning 150k or more isn't sensible.
You are really redefining socialists at that point.
But think the detour into politics has maybe gone too far.
nightmare-slain
Member
looks like it went back up but overall still declining.
i don't know how it all works but i guess a lot of people made money while it was down?
i don't know how it all works but i guess a lot of people made money while it was down?
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Mephisto40
Member
Only 3% of the UK's gas reservers come from Russia, so the idea that the current war has caused the prices to go up is complete BS
funkygunther
Banned
the price of gas is set internationally, it doesn't matter where UK imports from
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And it continues with your post!
And now it ends.
Team Andromeda
Member
The war has pushed up the wholesale price of Gas on the world market
Mephisto40
Member
And yet the UK seems to be the only country nosediving into oblivion because of it
Haha only after you and the rest have had your infringement with the no politics rule, by being political and now you think you also get to decide when that ends.
God give me strength. Looks like it’s a free for all in here lads.
funkygunther
Banned
because the UK got rid of most of its storage, so it’s riding the waves of all these increases where countries with storage capability who bought early, aren’t
Jesus Christ what nonsense is this?
Germany is on the brink of complete collapse if Putin turns off their gas - they are 100% fucked. Greece is wholesale about to default on huge debts (again) Italy and Spain aren’t far behind. Ireland has one of the highest debts per person IN THE WORLD. The whole EU block is unstable.
Yet, you focus solely on the U.K.?
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Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Keep your eyes on Germany this winter!
I was 'political' about talking about the reasons that I thought the currency had weaken? I didn't even pass judgement on the budget.
You might have implied it from one of my comments, I would like to know which one?
PS I didn't even compare the UK to the EU.
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Team Andromeda
Member
Really? The USA is already in recession and the EU is looking to cut to energy usages by 15%
I rather be in the UK than Germany this winter myself..
Wildebeest
Member
Hardware, I see it, but digital games they will charge what people can pay. Can't get blood from a stone. So if things get much worse, game prices in £ could even fall, which is great news for people in the UK who have overseas income.
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JackSparr0w
Banned
The gas is already off mate and EU is sorted for the winter with gas storage that the UK got rid off.
Wake up and smell the coffee you're being taken for shmucks over there in Britannia. Your own politicians and their cronies are shorting the pound while they're cutting down the tax for the rich and boosting the party donor energy companies with tax payers money.
The most hilarious part is that the UK taxpayers money will go to the EU which imposed windfall tax to the same energy companies
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FunkMiller
Gold Member
This is a combination of Putin’s war, Brexit hangover, post Covid effects, and a tired, out of ideas government. There’s no one thing at work here.
Wildebeest
Member
I don't see how discussing the cost of gaming is political, but you are certainly coming out swinging and aiming to get the thread locked.
waquzy
Member
It could have been even worse, I only got 30p p/h rise this year.
A blind person can see the majority of the posts are political and shitting on right wing politics in the U.K.
Subscription services honestly couldn't have come at a better time tbh. That and a massive backlog is going to probably keep me from buying new games for a very long time.
I would argue that it's more social things such as eating out and going to the pub that will be/has been affected so far. I can always argue that buying a new game means I won't be going out and spending money on other things
Wildebeest
Member
It is reported as an objective fact that the pound is crashing and uk govt cost of borrowing money is going through the roof as a market reaction to the UK budget. Don't like that, then you have a problem with reality not politics.
SaucyJack
Member
The gas is already off mate and EU is sorted for the winter with gas storage that the UK got rid off.
Wake up and smell the coffee you're being taken for shmucks over there in Britannia. Your own politicians and their cronies are shorting the pound while they're cutting down the tax for the rich and boosting the party donor energy companies with tax payers money.
The most hilarious part is that the UK taxpayers money will go to the EU which imposed windfall tax to the same energy companies
It's not enough. Gas in storage is hardly above the 5-year average for the time of year and ordinarily you'd still have Russian supply. There will be shortages this winter, especially if it's a hard one.
Also Europe is not using storage that the UK "got rid of". The UK government refused to subside repairs to the Rough storage facility owned by Centrica in 2017, an incredibly short-sighted decision as it amounted to half of UK storage capacity. This facility closed and is no longer in use.
remember_spinal
Banned
My thinking as well, all this means are microsoft and nintendo are taking an even bigger loss come the holiday season. Thats why they didn’t flat out commit to not raising prices in the near future.
A lot of people are gonna look dumb for ragging on sony for it soon. Nintendo will probably write this off as a price cut their margins are gonna get hit hard though
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Or you could of not shut down society, which in hindsight seems a terrible idea.
Places who totally shutdown did no better than places that didn’t.
Magic Carpet
Member
How are UK services like Utilities and insurance doing?
jm89
Member
I don't know why phil came out and just outright said oh were not planning on raising prices. Even though his words did leave room for a possible price increase, any backlash they get if they do up the price is gonna be far worse then sony.
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nightmare-slain
Member
well my gas/electricity is now capped to £2,500/year apparently (instead of the predicted £3,500 and then upwards of £5-7,000 by spring). the prices are still going up 1st october but it's meant to be frozen for 2 years now so yey? edit: and oh the goverment gave everyone £400 off their bills this year. next year we'll not get that so effectively it's still a price rise next year
rent is frozen too.
internet is going up. i currently pay £40/month but i've been told it'll go up to £53/month and that's not including the annual price hike due to inflation so by spring 2023 it'll likely be about £60/month.
my car insurance was £30/month and my old provider was wanting to renew the same fucking insurance policy for £50/month. i don't know where they pulled an extra £20/month from. immediately cancelled it and got a new quote which works out at £31/month.
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