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Spider-Man Remastered looks to be the second biggest launch for PS studios on Steam/PC - God of War still has the crown (at the moment)
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Bernd Lauert
Banned
I agree with Benji, I think only the high price has kept it from being #1. Sony won't care though, both games made a roughly similar amount of money.
GreatnessRD
Member
And Ghost of Tsushima, GT7, and MLB The Show. We deserve these goodies on PC, dammit!
cormack12
Gold Member
Depends - the more they sell could also indicate that PC gamers don't mind waiting for their ports, and it won't have that much effect trying to align launch dates (which also has dev implications). It's probably more likely to change when they start their GaaS development imo. They will want the biggest cross play audiences there for the MTX.
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Pelta88
Member
PC gamers when that new PS game drops on steam.
Steam user OhLookaDimeYT wrote:
"This is probably the best PC port of a PlayStation game to date. Not to mention THE best Spider-Man created to date. If you are reading this, you need this game in your library."
Steam user OhLookaDimeYT wrote:
"This is probably the best PC port of a PlayStation game to date. Not to mention THE best Spider-Man created to date. If you are reading this, you need this game in your library."
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Not necessarily. They will automatically sell much more games if they go for day 1, because the pc games would also profit from Sony's massive multilmillion marketing campaigns for their games and Sony knows this. I don't think the decision is dependant on the sales at the moment, i think they will just wait until they sold a certain number of PS5s and they will do it step by step to not completely piss of the die hard fanboy warriors. I expect day 1 in let's say 3-4 years and before we will see 6-12 months.
ANIMAL1975
Member
Those Days Gone numbers are a sin, guess that pc players are more eager to get in the action/adventure blockbuster Sonywagon.
Anyway, i think Sony is really missing not having port yet games like dreams and GT _ the multiplayer persistent genre they're now investing on...
Anyway, i think Sony is really missing not having port yet games like dreams and GT _ the multiplayer persistent genre they're now investing on...
GreatnessRD
Member
I do believe this is the plan. I pray this is the plan. Spot on, homie.
BigbyTheSheriff
Member
Given that it's a Spider-Man we're talking about I would have expected 100-150k concurrent players.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Exactly. Additionally, the full price would be more palatable to the PC crowd if the games came day one to Steam.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
The Last of Us part 1 waiting in the wings.
Hopefully Sony sees just how much of a market theyve got on PC, release these titles within one year.
Devs please start using DirectStorage and GPU decomp.
Hopefully Sony sees just how much of a market theyve got on PC, release these titles within one year.
Devs please start using DirectStorage and GPU decomp.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I’m expecting Ghost of Tsushima and Ratchet and Clank to be announced next.
I watched a little of DF’s review, and Spidey looks great. I’ll pick it up down the road when it’s much cheaper, as I’m not spending $60 for a double dip.
I watched a little of DF’s review, and Spidey looks great. I’ll pick it up down the road when it’s much cheaper, as I’m not spending $60 for a double dip.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
And Gravity RushAnd Ghost of Tsushima, GT7, and MLB The Show. We deserve these goodies on PC, dammit!
Game's just too fucking expensive for what it is. Should have at least the same price as the others. And maybe PC gamers are a bit tired of the Open world third person western Sony games. Just release something different on PC. Bloodborne would break 150k concurrent players easily even at 60 USD.
yamaci17
Member
regional pricing seriously affects it
god of war had aggresive regional pricing on our end, at launch, 36 friends of mine have played it.
spiderman costs 2x more, and only 11 friends of mine bought it and playing it. I made a small survey and 12 of them (the ones who have bought the gow but did not spiderman) said they would buy the spiderman if it cost as much as god of war did, regional pricing wise, 6 of them was indifferent and said they're not interested in superheroes and marvel, and others' reactions were mixed
so there u have it. a heavier regional pricing could've easily shoot that 64k number to 100ks and rival god of war. what can I say, each to their own.
god of war had aggresive regional pricing on our end, at launch, 36 friends of mine have played it.
spiderman costs 2x more, and only 11 friends of mine bought it and playing it. I made a small survey and 12 of them (the ones who have bought the gow but did not spiderman) said they would buy the spiderman if it cost as much as god of war did, regional pricing wise, 6 of them was indifferent and said they're not interested in superheroes and marvel, and others' reactions were mixed
so there u have it. a heavier regional pricing could've easily shoot that 64k number to 100ks and rival god of war. what can I say, each to their own.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Days gone is average bloated open world game with some cool ideas.
It already got more hype and praise than possibly deserved
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Yes, but not so soon though because they still have PS4/5 games they could port to PC next year or so, such as TLOU, Ratchet & Clank, Returnal, Horizon Forbidden West and Ghost of Tsushima. Perhaps God of War Ragnarok, Wolverine, Demon's Soul and Spider-Man 2 to PC in 2024.
ANIMAL1975
Member
That's your opinion/personal taste. To me Sony this gen bloated their IPs with the cinematic cutscenes that bore me to death when it's exaggerated. To me they fucked up GOD that i loved as a hack and slash/smash and destroy, action from beginning to end game. That's my tastes, to me days gone was a fresh change in Sonys portfolio and a pleasure to play, and I'm not the only one, my son thinks the same and even platinumed the fucker.
So that's why i said that it's sad it didn't sell better on pc.
Hari Seldon
Member
I mean the game sold 50 bajillion copies on ps4, I feel like the venn diagram intersection between people who have never played it on console, own a pc capable of playing it, actually like these type of games, and pay attention enough to buy a game with no main stream marketing is small.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Its these numbers Jimbo is chasing and I love this let me play all those games on my high powered PC in ultrawide
Wait until Spiderman 2 when it drops within a year of PS release
Just guessing too btw
Wait until Spiderman 2 when it drops within a year of PS release
Just guessing too btw
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
You couldn’t be more wrong and different taste does not clean days gone.
But anyway. I also do not agree that their games are all the same. It’s nonsense
BlackTron
Member
If they do go down this path, I think that's the beginning of the end for their brand.
I say this as someone who would be happy not to have to get a PS5 and have no allegiance as a "die hard Sony fan" whatsoever. I grew up on Nintendo/Sega and despised Sony while they plowed Dreamcast.
So it would not piss me off personally at all if their games went to PC day one. But objectively this is a terrible move trading short term gains for long term problems.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
It really hasn't hurt MS as far as I can tell. The majority buy a console because they want a console. And if people are willing to buy their own hardware rather than having Sony subsidize it for them then that is almost a plus for Sony. Couple that with what must be ridiculous mark-ups on controllers and the push towards MTX and PC is likely where a significant portion of their long term gains will be.
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Topher
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Not much reason to complain about the price when the game can be bought for under $50 on cd keys.
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
And for 20$ together with miles morales on ps5...Not much reason to complain about the price when the game can be bought for under $50 on cd keys.
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I honestly feel like Sony won't be day 1 till atleast next gen. Would be nice if they released PC ports 6 to 12 months later though at a cheaper price. I
can't see it affecting sales much at all really, anyone wanting to play on PC are used to waiting and the console players will still get the fully optimised coding to the metal experience.
can't see it affecting sales much at all really, anyone wanting to play on PC are used to waiting and the console players will still get the fully optimised coding to the metal experience.
I don't think it will hurt them at all. Pcs and consoles are two different things, many people don't want to have a pc. And i bet those who have a gaming rig, would only buy a console + some exclusives, but no 3rd party games and no subscriptions, but that's what Sony wants. So they keep the pc guys on the pc, won't lose many people to pc, but gain the pc gamers that hate consoles. I think Sony will profit permanently from this move. Games are getting more and more expensive and this will help.
Jaybe
Member
I don’t think they will ever launch these big single player games day 1 on PS5 and PC. This will end up delaying the PS5 version from release. A notable community manager confirmed this recently
They will keep their approach, also shared by rock star. Maybe get it down to 6 months to a year.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
It’s too bad PlayStation games aren’t on pc day 1, they’re going well for pc, it’ll happened again with ratchet and clank rift apart. You told us exclusives were exclusives this is unacceptable of sales when pc gamers said they would buy these games.
Ansphn
Member
Yes. If they start selling more on PC than their PS5, Day 1 on PC is a guarantee.
YeulEmeralda
Member
I switched to PC and have no interest in buying a PS5. There are already plenty of games on Steam.
Sony exclusives are good but not €399 good.
Sony exclusives are good but not €399 good.
yurinka
Member
The Spider-Man Steam concurrent players peak is now at 66,436 and was achieved in the last 24h so maybe can be increased a bit more to get closer to the 73,529 GoW peak.
GoW was a 4 years old game at $50 after it had sold ~20M at PS where also was included in their game sub. Similar case to Spider-Man but in this case the game sold more in PS and it's sold at $60 which could mean a slightly slower launch.
I think both games will sell way more on PC when heavily discounted, specially in the case of Spider-Man since it's an even bigger IP.
They won't destroy their main revenue and profit source, their super successful business around their console, to get only a few peanuts more from PC.
GoW was a 4 years old game at $50 after it had sold ~20M at PS where also was included in their game sub. Similar case to Spider-Man but in this case the game sold more in PS and it's sold at $60 which could mean a slightly slower launch.
I think both games will sell way more on PC when heavily discounted, specially in the case of Spider-Man since it's an even bigger IP.
Their PC sales are peanuts compared to their PS sales. On top of that, they have to pay Valve and Epic a part of their PC revenue.
They won't destroy their main revenue and profit source, their super successful business around their console, to get only a few peanuts more from PC.
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Guilty_AI
Member
Probably not, concurrent player peak for big games is usually on the first weekend after launch. Now that that has passed, its basically down from here on, even during discounts.
While they can still sell more, we're talking the long game here, as in they'll probably be selling reasonably well 5 years from now, maybe making it high in global top sellers during heavy discounts, but they won't be more popular than they are now.
Ansphn
Member
I agree completely. That why i said Playstation won't release Day 1 on PC until they sell as much on PC as they do on Playstation.
yurinka
Member
True, the typical curve in Steam CCU, specially for non GaaS without big updates/dlcs is to have the peak around launch and to decrease after that. As big seller they'll keep decently during some years (GoW is top 65 right now in Steam to sellers) and may have some isolated peaks during big discount/sales, but around half of their total revenue will be generated during its launch window.
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ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Those PS sales previously were under the assumption that those games would never come to PC. Now that they have widen the PC door, multi-plat players might choose to wait for the PC version for their future PS 1st party games.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Doesnt mean much. Those impressive concurrent numbers for GOW translated into less than a million sales in 5 months and just a $26 million revenue for Sony after Valve's 30% cut.
If spiderman is below GOW then its probably going to be worse than that.
For reference, Sony posted $25 BILLION in revenue from their console business in 2020.
If spiderman is below GOW then its probably going to be worse than that.
For reference, Sony posted $25 BILLION in revenue from their console business in 2020.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
That a new mental gymnastics. Incredible.
Sarcasm, my fault I should of added "comment not for people who have learning difficulties" my bad.
yurinka
Member
Sony expects to increase their amount of PC ports released per year, but also to increase even more their amount of brand new PS only games released per year, which implies that they don't plan to bring all their games to PC. And well, they don't plan to release games day one on PC at least for the current year and the one that ends in 2026.
Releasing more brand new PS only games than PC ports of old games, the amount of Sony exclusives not available on PC will grow over time instead of decreasing. So in the future there will be more reasons to buy a PS5 console than now, not less even if some titles will be released on PC. So yes, a few players may wait for years to see if they are lucky and the game they want gets ported. But many games won't be ported or will have to wait a lot.
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Roxkis_ii
Member
Doubt it, as Sony probably still cares about selling Playstations.